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WildStar |OT| The biggest MMO since the Big Bang
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plasticpassion
Member
Really considering buying this tonight. I should be patient and try to get a demo code though.
..fuck it. I bought it. I hope it's good as I got bored with FFXIVgrindfest pretty quickly.
..fuck it. I bought it. I hope it's good as I got bored with FFXIVgrindfest pretty quickly.
A tip:
Try to do Task quests occasionally, focus on Zone/Regional/World quests as that's the bulk of your XP. Tasks are the really generic quests that have you kill 25 guys and that's just boring.
JustProgress
Member
I'm at level 45 and the task structure gets a lot better. I'd say around Wilderrun you want to start doing tasks. For one, they're more reasonable - kill 15 instead of 50, and they're already in the story quest area. Also, you need all the XP you can get at the end unless you want to grind out the last level.
plasticpassion
Member
Thanks. I'm going to build a tank character this time - any good builds out there? I am thinking a mech
Robobandit
Member
Alex
Member
I like everything about this game, except for the questing, I am finding it to be quite terrible. It has all of the issues of WoW's questing but on steroids. I'm trying to progress more through PvP but too much is going to get lost in the clutter if I don't quest a bunch too. I am just so over the ol' ride into a hub, pick up fifty thousand yellow !'s and do a bunch of extremely easy fluff tasks. What is making me EXTREMELY sour to this is that almost nothing is shared between party members, making it take even longer to do things in a group, terrible design in a multiplayer game.
I would love to see just one MMO offer at least optional methods to make leveling up an engaging and thoughtful experience, hell even something as simple as a difficulty slider with added rewards/perks would be fantastic.
At least they label stuff nicely, props for that, I can skip a lot of the chaff.
I would love to see just one MMO offer at least optional methods to make leveling up an engaging and thoughtful experience, hell even something as simple as a difficulty slider with added rewards/perks would be fantastic.
At least they label stuff nicely, props for that, I can skip a lot of the chaff.
Yep, the questing is pretty bad in this one sadly - and they made things even worse including those grindy task quests, which only complicate things. Maybe it gets better later on, but especially Whitevale is quite quilty of mindless task bombing.
I would have to disagree on the sharing part though, I've done almost all of the quests in a party up to level 30 or so, and most of the things have been shared. Only expections have been quests where we need to click stuff individually, but really, almost everything is shared - not sure why you're under the opposite impression
I've found that while doing the normal quests for that breadcrumbed zone I'll complete the "kill x" quests in line with all the others, so I guess it isn't feeling as bad for me. Of course, I'm level 24 now and everything feels a lot better story/quest wise plus I'm so use to these types of quests it doesn't really phase me.
I hate maintenance. I was about to go do my first adventure instance.
Yep, all instanced content requires a tank, healer, and DPS. Dungeons are significantly harder than Adventures though.
plasticpassion
Member
Damn. The game download finally finished and now the network is down. I hope they don't extend the maintenance period.
plasticpassion
Member
Hm. No realms available at this time. Why does it say that? Maintenance should be over now...
They extended it for NA realms to 3AM PST now because of unforeseen issues.
neurosisxeno
Member
I bought the game on a whim last week because I was sick and pretty much stuck at home all week. Turns out I actually really like this game. Rolled an Exile Engineer and have so far gotten to level 22. I just recently realized the game is designed in a way that encourages you to basicaly use every ability on cooldown, something I'm not used to, but once I did that the game got more manageable.
I will say one thing, the bots for Engineers are bugged as shit. Half the time they stand in place for no reason and won't attack enemies that are right in front of them, the other half of the time they are diving face first through half the mobs in the room. Changing between Passive and Defensive does literally nothing, and in any enclosed area (those random ship quests) they seem to continuously aggro mobs then fall through the floor and reset them. Other than that major frustration I really enjoy the game.
I will say one thing, the bots for Engineers are bugged as shit. Half the time they stand in place for no reason and won't attack enemies that are right in front of them, the other half of the time they are diving face first through half the mobs in the room. Changing between Passive and Defensive does literally nothing, and in any enclosed area (those random ship quests) they seem to continuously aggro mobs then fall through the floor and reset them. Other than that major frustration I really enjoy the game.
I set my bots to assist and they do everything as intended. Make sure to actually use their skills because they add a ton of dps and help manage aggro (bruiser bot's special even has an interrupt which is great because you can interrupt primes if you use it with Zap).
Also make sure to keybind the bots commands (at least the more important ones) : https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43733-engineer-bot-keybindscommands/.
Honestly the only terrible things about bots is that they sometime pull aggro without provocation and sometimes (it's rare imo) get lost sometimes which keeps you from using their skills.
Hmm I guess I watched different streams, in Veteran Dungeons they always seemed to be the top dps. Raid builds might be different and I haven't looked into them yet. Still, I feel Engineers are still much better than what people on the official forums would have you think.
Edit: nvm
Interesting that they use basically only Warriors and Stalkers for DPS. From my experience Engineers are dominating everything. Pretty cool to see a Medic holding his own, though I feel pretty sorry for Espers in raids right now, as much as I'm enjoying leveling mine.
It will be nice to start seeing some other logs come out.
TharpDaddy
Member
Esper pets are painful to use as well. Any summons of mine will regularly just ignore what i'm attacking and go attack something nearby which results in an extra group pulled, or a prime creature in some cases. As a squishy Esper this leads to my death a lot of times.
Esper just seems like a kinda broken class at the moment. Pets are weird, mobility issues feel strange, the point system is kind of wonky with some abilities instantly adding points while others need a charge. Oh, and their innate is kinda garbage.
But at least they've acknowledged these issues.
But at least they've acknowledged these issues.
TharpDaddy
Member
I enjoy the class for the most part when i'm leveling. Now and then i'll get frustrated and wish i had rolled another class, but I enjoy the healing. Unfortunately the healing also has bugs. One of my abilities (Warden) is completely useless since it refuses to spawn next to anyone except me when in combat.
randomengine
Banned
I have had a love-hate relationship with WoW over the past 9-10 years of its existence. I have quit it several times and I have tried most of the WoW clones that come out to usurp it. The problem I have had with WoW is that it is a raid game and nothing but a raid game. It has bare-bones crafting only because it exists enough to support the raid game. Blizzard 9/10 releases a new raid for content patches as if that is the only content in the game. We rarely get a new zone. Blizzard doesn't know how to design the game in such a way where a new zone can be added and still worthwhile to play in the leveling system. I don't know, the problems are just legion at this point.
Anyway, I got a call from my brother talking about this game. He is usually hyped about any new MMO that comes out. I made a mental note to take a look at it later.
Later, I was watching some of those devspeak videos and I watched the one on Paths. What? You can pick the way you play an MMO? Crazy, it's like they are talking to me. I like to explore, I like to build shit, anything but fighting stuff all the time.
I asked my bro for a guest pass and played it over the weekend. Ultimately the Path system was less grand than I had hoped, however, what I discovered was.....the most incredible MMO combat system I have ever seen. It is so good that I can't even look at WoW combat anymore, it hurts.
And that was what was so amazing. Every time I have played a WoW clone 2 things happen: I realize the game doesn't have the polish of WoW (or doesn't improve on its systems in any way) and playing the WoW clone only makes me more interested in playing WoW again (in the vain hope that Blizzard's development priorities change). This was the first time in 9 years that I felt the opposite. That finally, I have a game that can wholly replace WoW, every system in the game does MMO better than WoW. The combat, the crafting, the housing, crowd control, PvP, every minute system in Wildstar is better and I find myself wanting to play the game in the back of my mind every 10 minutes when I am not playing. That is crazy. That hasn't happened before since WoW came out 9 years ago.
This is a winner.
Anyway, I got a call from my brother talking about this game. He is usually hyped about any new MMO that comes out. I made a mental note to take a look at it later.
Later, I was watching some of those devspeak videos and I watched the one on Paths. What? You can pick the way you play an MMO? Crazy, it's like they are talking to me. I like to explore, I like to build shit, anything but fighting stuff all the time.
I asked my bro for a guest pass and played it over the weekend. Ultimately the Path system was less grand than I had hoped, however, what I discovered was.....the most incredible MMO combat system I have ever seen. It is so good that I can't even look at WoW combat anymore, it hurts.
And that was what was so amazing. Every time I have played a WoW clone 2 things happen: I realize the game doesn't have the polish of WoW (or doesn't improve on its systems in any way) and playing the WoW clone only makes me more interested in playing WoW again (in the vain hope that Blizzard's development priorities change). This was the first time in 9 years that I felt the opposite. That finally, I have a game that can wholly replace WoW, every system in the game does MMO better than WoW. The combat, the crafting, the housing, crowd control, PvP, every minute system in Wildstar is better and I find myself wanting to play the game in the back of my mind every 10 minutes when I am not playing. That is crazy. That hasn't happened before since WoW came out 9 years ago.
This is a winner.
ttocs
Member
The spellslinger is fun and does a ton of damage, but you definitely have to move around a lot. I ended up switching to Engineer because I wasn't into the heavy movement required. People who like that level of skill play will love it though.
If you like PVP, you'll like Spellslinger. They wreck face.
Awesome. Thanks, that sounds perfect (I really like moving around and dodging).
Now...I just noticed something (while browsing the internet) that makes me feel really stupid. Are you able to allocate points to your primary attributes, or are they automatically assigned? I don't think I've done anything on that screen -.-
ttocs
Member
I think they are automatically assigned. You'll be adding to them by wearing equipment. If you want a DPS Spellslinger, go with Finesse.
Oh, ok. Whew. That's what I've been doing.
I play a SS as my main and they are so much fun. So mobile and yes you have to move around a lot in order to be effective, but they also have some spells that you have to stay still, but you can combo those with others. It's so much fun.
I really think the combat system in this game is great. I am fighting mobs in the wild just because I find it fun. I don't think I ever did that in WoW or GW2.
TharpDaddy
Member
New patch notes
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/70172-update-notes-build-6723-6102014/
One of the comments mentions there are some Engi bot fixes in the patch.
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/70172-update-notes-build-6723-6102014/
One of the comments mentions there are some Engi bot fixes in the patch.
Can someone post them here? Thats blocked for me at work.
They have finally fixed the quest tracker overlapping text issue, and the quest numbering being incorrect. Hurrah!
ttocs
Member
Nice! That was one of those issues that was annoying but you were hard pressed to complain about it in lieu of the server queue issue. Glad it's fixed.
Thanks! There's not a comprehensive list of the patch? I don't see any engineer bot stuff there.
TharpDaddy
Member
I don't know if it's definitely in there. Just a comment i saw on the thread was someone saying there were bot fixes in the patch (it was by another user, not a Carbine person). "<3 lets see if your bot fix works" i may be wrongly assuming that means engineer bots, though.
Nah he's talking about bots in PvP stuff apparently.
Edit:Also War of the Wilds nerf apparently made it super tedious if you want to get gold or silver :/
Got it! Thanks very much!
ttocs
Member
Awesome, hope you enjoy it!
TheContact
Member
great post this is almost my thoughts exactly. I finally feel like I'm playing the mmo that will replace wow for me. And I've tried most of them
JustProgress
Member
Damn the nerf to Architect crafting
