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Will they existence of PS5 Pro bring more 8K games to base PS5?
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Yes
Calico345
Gold Member
I have a 1K television. I got it at K-mart.
You understand that it really doesn't take much time or effort to render at higher resolutions when you have the overhead right?
Calico345
Gold Member
No, only 5K. I heard from my uncle that PlayStation 6 will be 6K. He works at Nintendo.
I don't think they ever updated the HDMI output for 8K but I'm talking about the rendering resolution.
ShakenG
Member
I personally hope 8k never becomes a focus. 4k is enough to enjoy a crisp image on a large teli.
Games still need QA for these kind of things. There could be instances where FX or certain scenes tank your FPS even in games that are not demanding at all. And on console you have limited options so these options got to work. It's not like on PC where you get a list of 20 possible resolutions according to what your system and driver reports to the game and if 8k would cause issues you just switch to a stable resolution.
Given that 8k is rarely needed for a good PPI/view distance ratio, this effort, no matter how little, isn't something most would consider to implement.
And if it's not about PPI that you'd want 8k for, but let's say better anti-aliasing there's so many better options that exist.
The way how modern displays work pushing the resolution will have diminishing returns real quick, up to the point where it's literally non-perceivable anymore.
Given that 8k is rarely needed for a good PPI/view distance ratio, this effort, no matter how little, isn't something most would consider to implement.
And if it's not about PPI that you'd want 8k for, but let's say better anti-aliasing there's so many better options that exist.
The way how modern displays work pushing the resolution will have diminishing returns real quick, up to the point where it's literally non-perceivable anymore.
kevboard
Member
nope, and I can't believe they haven't been sued for it yet tbh, as it was prominently advertised on the box
I know this that's why I'm talking about it happening as a result of devs doing it for the PS5 Pro & flowing over to the base model.
They have 1 game (maybe more) that renders at 8K so they are actually covered in court lol
kevboard
Member
nope, the system can't output 8K, which is clearly false advertising. it is entirely irrelevant at which internal resolution anything renders
Radical_3d
Member
Someone decides that it’s not worth it to test an 8K version of their pixel art game. The Pro releases. Now it’s worth it.
That whole “legal in California” was a mistake.
That whole “legal in California” was a mistake.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
NO!!!
Is that your final answer?
SweetTooth
Gold Member
8K TV will regress GPUs/Console progress at least 10 years.
I'm glad Nvidai/Sony have designed great upscaling solutions
I'm glad Nvidai/Sony have designed great upscaling solutions
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, anything that can go above 2160p is downsampled. It doesn't do output at above 2160p.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They/Them did it. You are infected with the woke virus.Edit: I'm not sure how "They" ended up in the title in place of "The"
ResilientBanana
Member
The whole reason we have a fidelity issues because everybody keeps chasing 4K. So fuck 8K.
You do understand that I'm talking about games that are not pushing these high end consoles right?
Like how would a 8K Tetris hurt you in anyway? Lol
rm082e
Member
But if the games are simple in nature, then what's the value of 8k? No one has an 8k TV and the market has made clear no one wants one. It's not a feature they can advertise to sell new TVs, so there's no reason to put any resources into it. It's just a complete waste of energy, unlike frame rate.
A light weight game could get some value out of advertising it's 120hz capable. That's a better use of the developer's time.
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Esppiral
Member
Yeah totally agree people sue for stupid things but this in your face false marketing gets a pass.
Kvally
Member
Well, they removed it from the box now, so there is that.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I don't understand why the existence of the Pro would make this happen (if the base PS5 could even output 8K, which it cannot).
Dr. Wilkinson
Gold Member
No.
It’s a Pro model, it doesn’t get its own games and extremely unlikely anything enters development solely because they just really want to tap into that extra power. Even if they did, a) it wouldn’t be done in time and PS6 will be out by then, and b) it would have to work on base PS5, as well
It’s a Pro model, it doesn’t get its own games and extremely unlikely anything enters development solely because they just really want to tap into that extra power. Even if they did, a) it wouldn’t be done in time and PS6 will be out by then, and b) it would have to work on base PS5, as well
saintjules
Gold Member
I remember hearing on DF Weekly John saying that it's possible we would see "8k" based games being downsampled to 4k.
I'm not too tech saavy on the downsampling techniques, but that would be interesting if that fit a specific narrative.
I'm not too tech saavy on the downsampling techniques, but that would be interesting if that fit a specific narrative.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yes....
ResilientBanana
Member
These games aren't necessarily saleable though, they're not vector graphics. That would force the art team to update their assets / sprites etc to make additional assets for a minority of people. While a resolution bump kind of makes sense, you still may run into quite a bit of useless testing to make sure your game can even run at 8K let alone 4K.
In my opinion, 3D games would benefit most from an 8K bumps, but it may not be worth the money to test. Not so much 2D, as your sprites would need to be updated to be sharper and higher resolution.
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Bojji
Gold Member
PS5 lacks HDMI bandwidth (32Gb/s vs. full 48Gb/s of HDMI 2.1) for 8k/60hz/10 bit (hdr)/4:2:0
It can only do SDR 8k, that's why support for it was cancelled on standard console (had sticker on the box for years).
They have new HDMI chip in Pro and it supports 8k output.
It can only do SDR 8k, that's why support for it was cancelled on standard console (had sticker on the box for years).
They have new HDMI chip in Pro and it supports 8k output.
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Games of Today
Member
Yes, the Tourist is the only native 8K game though, as far as I know.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
PSSR is the only way ps6 will hit 8k
Esppiral
Member
Internally, but it does not output 8k
Games of Today
Member
Oh that's interesting. I didn't know that. You don't think it would be native on an 8K display though?
RickMasters
Member
4K 60FPS with high detail….. I’d like to see them really nail that for the next gen. And just make that the new baseline performance. We should not be seeing 30FPS games any more, on any platform in this day and age.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
People are already finding it hard to justify 4k gaming even despite it being around for almost 10 years, between all the people choosing performance mode and going crazy over high FPS.
8k gaming is like a stone rocket, that shit is not taking off man
also whats with that pfp
RickMasters
8k gaming is like a stone rocket, that shit is not taking off man
also whats with that pfp
RickMasters
PendekarRajawali
Member
8K on PS5?
PS5 can’t even run every game in 4K, let alone 8K. I’m not even convinced the pro will always run games in 4K eventually.
PS5 can’t even run every game in 4K, let alone 8K. I’m not even convinced the pro will always run games in 4K eventually.
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