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Will this be the defining holiday season for Xbox One?
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To each their own. Looks fantastic to me.
Assuming you're talking about just the holiday window, wrong.
There's Ratchet & Clank for PS4 this holiday.
And maybe Xenoblade Chronicles X and Star Fox for Wii U.
Its amazing that ms has done all that and yet the ps4 continues to sell at the exact same price it did at launch. This month may even reach a 100k gap. I would be worried at ms if sony price drops. We have't seen ps4's final fom.
Well with technology advancing the way it is I don't think there's anyway it has as long of a lifespan I'll grant you that. The point wasn't,it will sell more units than the 360, the point was that despite all the initial negativity the console sales are a success for MS and subsequently 3rd party developers. Obviously they want to keep the momentum going, but the fact is the Xbox one and the gaming industry as a whole are very healthy.
Is xbox healthy outside us and uk?
This. Plus it even took 9 years just for Microsoft to reach 48+ million Xbox 360 owners in the U.S. alone.
I highly doubt that Xbox One will even come close to those same numbers in that same region.
SmokedMeat
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Xbox 360 wasn't and it made no difference.
Steverulez
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This assumes Uncharted 4 hits in Spring, which we will have to wait and find out for.
If Quantum Break is delayed, then presumably that will be early 2016. Scalebound possibly, just because Sony have said one game thats delayed, MS have a few that could potentially fit that sort of release date, but until they tell us, its not like Q1/Spring 2016 is next quarter, its a year away. Ask again at Gamescom or November.
They dominated US and UK, that's a big difference.
Hans.Gruber
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Plus Q1 2016 would be the logical slot for the Gears game if MS wants to combat Uncharted.
If MS had Gears and QB for Q1&2 of 2016, wow.
Steverulez
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I would not expect Gears 4 until the holiday, Black Tusk should get plenty of time to make it.
Goldfishking
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doubt it, gears seems like a holiday release. i could see crackdown though
Hans.Gruber
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So you think there will be a multiple Gears games? Like Holiday 15 and 16. or do you mean if Gears doesn't make it in 2015 it will be pushed back to Q4 2016?
You keep saying this without realizing their Holiday price drops were only done in the U.S..
So yeah, of course they weren't going to beat the PS4 worldwide during that time (and they more than likely never will).
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Why would anyone be concerned about a good game coming out? I'm just going to express my concern by buying it.
They did so over Sony; not overall though.
The Xbox One is currently on track to making up the same percentage of North American current gen console sales as its predecessor (Xbox 360) during its gen -- possibly even a little bit more thanks to Nintendo's huge drop.
Dragonborn
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That completes ignores all context.
The 360 dominated in NA and the UK, selling more than the Wii in both (iirc, may be wrong). They outsold the PS3 2 to 1. Furthermore, they did very solid numbers in Europe and other parts of the world. Finally. KINECT gave them a very big and very needed boost mid way through the gen, which allowed them to reach the install base they did.
The X1 us practically on life support outside the UK and US. It's get ten outsold easily in the UK and in the US it's still getting beaten even though it's cheaper and comes with free games.
The X1 is facing massive contractions of install base in the US and UK. They'll be lucky to do half as well as the 360 did. And in the rest of the world it will be irrelevant unlike the 360.
Seriously, any prediction that pegs it at anywhere over 50 million lifetime is, at this point, somewhat absurd (barring some kind of miracle).
This Gen will mirror the PS1 generarion.
PS1 = PS4 (90-105 million)
N64 = X1 (35-45 million)
Saturn = Wii U (15-20 million)
The X1 will fall behind hard and fast eventually. The first couple of years for the 360 were not all that great, plus the 360 had 9 years to get to that point, a luxury the X1 won't have.
This reminds me of Nintendo saying the 3DS was tracking ahead of the DS for the first few years like it was some big success.
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Hey there, just wanted you to know:
In the US we generally associate it with getting rid of bugs. You call the exterminator if you have a bug problem.
King Beyond the wall
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Microsoft operate the Xbox business as an almost exclusive holiday console. They will only release major exclusive titles between October-December, so there is little chance of the new Gears coming in spring.
Steverulez
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Well Rod did say "Projects" iirc. The Halo plan of Collection of some sort the year before the next mainline entry will probably fit Gears as well, although the specifics of what that "Collection" are could vary.
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I think some of the reason for this is twofold:
1). Fall is when new TV shows air too because people are back from vacation, school is starting, and the weather is cooling off so people are looking at more inside activities.
2.) People tend to spend a lot more money in the Holiday season hearing up for Christmas witnessed by the annual Thanksgiving onslaught.
But it doesn't mean they don't release games throughout the year. Ori just released. Last year it was Titanfall. I'll curious to see when Scalebound drops.
I doubt a new banjo or battletoads is going to do anything.
Hans.Gruber
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Since EN isn't my native language, I might have been a victim of trolling.
Thank you. But how does it make the use of the word any less ugly and inappropriate (in a gaming context).
How can people hate a company so much that they want them to be completely destroyed?
Are Xbox systems and the games on it bugs that need to be killed?
Anyways the market cap of MS is at 307 Billion , while Sony is at 28 Billion .
So, amazing job by Sony to actually beat MS in sales, let's see what MS does to counter it.
Except it won't happen, fall 2016 is the earliest we can expect a new Gears of War game. Having QB for Q1/2 2016 means it will have to "fight" against UC4 and whatever other pubs have to offer, I can only guess that period is going to be stacked. Also, it means that the Xbox One will only have TR and Halo 5 for this holiday season and we know the new Fable won't perform like its predecessors and Halo 5 won't set the world on fire outside the US/UK, TR is still a wildcard but neither do I think its going to sell gangbusters.
The Xbox One needs its exclusives this year now that Sony is definitely lacking them in the second half of 2015 (as far as we know)
King Beyond the wall
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Mainly number 2 of your points. And I'm talking about 'major' titles -
1. Gears definitly falls into this so will almost certainly launch at fall.
2. Scalebound will be an extremely niche game aimed at a small and specific market, so it will likely launch at a quieter time of the year so it isn't swamped by the big releases (spring or summer)
3. EA published Titanfall so it was really their say on when the game released, and it was better for a new Ip to launch away from the holidays for the reason above.
4. Ori is a small indie game (not a major release) so the timing of that release is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
It didn't in NA during last gen's "peak" years. The Wii during its most popular years regularly outsold the Xbox 360 by double... some months even triple.
The Xbox 360 caught up to the Wii in North American sales last year (2014) when the Wii was done for for many years (thus further showing how big the Wii was in North America).
No signs of it. For it to happen (again, I'm talking about percentage because of people bringing up "overall dominance"), the PS4 would have to be selling as good as the Wii did last gen in North America. No signs of that happening.
Why? I'm not talking about numbers of consoles sold. I'm simply talking about percentage of current gen consoles since people want to bring up how the 360 dominated in NA without (for some reason) wanting to bring up the Wii.
Nintendo's huge drop will more than likely be the reason why the Xbox One will have a similar position as the Xbox 360 during its main years (2006-2012) when it comes to percentage of current gen consoles in NA -- around 35-40%
Heck, I think that's where the Xbox One is at now in North America. I believe the Wii U is around 5 Million in North America which would make close to 19 Million current gen consoles overall here.
Hans.Gruber
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Forza 6 won't release this holiday?
Dragonborn
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Ahhhh, okay, I get what you're saying. You're talking about the percentage of the console market they end up controlling?
I agree with what you've said in that case but it does feel a bit misleading overall. I mean, obviously it's not a completely irrelevant fact; however, like you said it'll mostly be due to the collapse of the Wii U and not really any merit of the X1. It's sort of just going to happen by default.
For example, I'm pretty sure the 3DS will have a bigger percentage of the mobile handheld market, but that doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things
Forza is not significant. Its not a system seller. Especially since 2 forzas have already launched.
Yes, in North America since some here were saying the 360 dominated when it really didn't... it simply dominated the PS3.
Agreed but that's because the dedicated handheld market as a whole has gone down a whole lot since the original DS.
Hans.Gruber
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Are you serious? There are people who like racing games, and if you look at the racing games Sony has put out so far.... I think Forza is pretty significant, because Xbox
has the #1 and #2 rated racing games this gen.
And I expect Forza 6 to get back to the level of Forza 4 (~90 metascore).
Dragonborn
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Forza Horizon 2 pretty much bombed though. I believe it did just over 100k it's first month in NA.
Forza as a series doesn't really push Xboxes. GT5, for example, scored lower than most last Gen Forza games yet sold more than almost all of them combined
Forza 6 wont hit 90+, this gen is harsher.
And so what if it scores higher. A next gen gt would outsell them all combined.
Hans.Gruber
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Source: http://n4g.com/news/1607545/forza-horizon-2-sells-366k-first-week-xbox-one-sales-up-25
Doesn't sound "insignificant" to me.
Can't tell how valid this source is tho. We'll have to see when GT6 comes out first.
The Xbox isn't going to overtake the ps4, but I think it will sell more this holiday season (sep-December) Than last year.
Most likely there will be 299-250 bundles( may include target Walmart gift cards etc)
And I think the line up of games, first and third party blows last year out of the water
Most likely there will be 299-250 bundles( may include target Walmart gift cards etc)
And I think the line up of games, first and third party blows last year out of the water
Dragonborn
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I think that's chartz.
What does GT have to do with Forza 6?
They compete with each other.
So GT is releasing this holiday?
Hans.Gruber
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Is there a valid source out there?
This n4g site seems to link to some other site, that looks like pastebin.
Birgitte2004
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I think last Holiday Season was the defining one for Xbox One. They did everything they could to take back the US and didn't come particularly close, although November looked like they had a shot.
It doesn't, but it needs to stop having to bleed profits just to compete.
It doesn't, but it needs to stop having to bleed profits just to compete.
Ugh totally forgot about that, Forza hasn't been a big seller anyway, I don't think people who didn't buy a XB1 for Forza 5 or Horizon 2 are going to buy it for Forza 6. We're talking about a "defining" holiday here And Halo 5 is the only game that can make a difference (for that period at least)
That's what people don't understand. Sure its good to outsell the competition and be number 1 but it doesn't mean that the system is a failure if it isn't number 1.
I think people should be more worried about the fact that this generation is not going to grow like many investors thought it would.
The more I think about it, the less I think we're getting a Gears collection and halo 5 this year. They're both the same crowd and MS wants, and really needs, Halo 5 to sell well. Probably a September release for it and a huge holiday marketing push. Releasing in November would be stupid against BLOPS 3 and Battlefront.
ThomasAnderson
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Great point! As long as Microsoft continues to deliver great games like Ori, Forza, Sunset OD, services like EA Access, games with gold, and keep killing it with weekly digital sales, I'm happy.
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