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[Steelyuhas]

Get home, update time. Oh wait!

Dammit! (My battery has turned to absolute shit. Pretty sure it's the FB app update)

 

[juliushandle]

How long did the update take?

 

[this_guy]

How long did the update take?

Wasn't too bad - maybe 10-15 minutes after the download completed. I was worried because of the horror stories about the spinning gears lasting for hours, but my AT&T Lumia 920 updated relatively quickly.

 

[megarockexe]

So since I'm kind of new to this Glance stuff, how do I know it won't burn in or damage the screen? I appreciate the randomly hovering time and potential to alternate low-bit backgrounds, but does it have any long-term screen or battery impact? I have mine set to Interval because it's not like I need the time on in my pocket.

How long did the update take?

About 40 minutes for the entire process for me.

 

[PG2G]

I'm not using Glance because it seems like its be a huge waste of battery on an LCD screen. Even the Peek mode isn't especially useful when hitting the lock button is just as easy and doesn't require the phone attempting to sense a wave.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Wrong thread

 

[freshair]

So since I'm kind of new to this Glance stuff, how do I know it won't burn in or damage the screen? I appreciate the randomly hovering time and potential to alternate low-bit backgrounds, but does it have any long-term screen or battery impact? I have mine set to Interval because it's not like I need the time on in my pocket.


About 40 minutes for the entire process for me.

For night mode/charging, I know that the clock moves around.

For everyday usage, this site says that it only adds an extra percentage or two of battery usage overall - http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/18191_Nokia_works_a_LCD_miracle-Glan.php

What seems to be happening is that, buoyed up by under the hood changes in WP8 GDR2, Nokia has found a way to run the LCD backlight at very low brightness, I'm guessing around 1%. Allied to the OS and Snapdragon chip supporting such a low level, low power process as maintaining a permanent clock, the end result is impressive. I've been testing this on the Lumia 920 (with the optional 'double tap to wake ALSO turned on) and the extra battery drain is of the order of a few percent a day, barely more than the 1% a day I usually reckoned on for the always-on AMOLED displays on Symbian smartphones a few years ago.

 

[hwalker84]

Wasn't too bad - maybe 10-15 minutes after the download completed. I was worried because of the horror stories about the spinning gears lasting for hours, but my AT&T Lumia 920 updated relatively quickly.

Spinning gears is when you factory reset.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

Yay I finally got the update we've been waiting so long for.


...what did it add besides the glance screen?

 

[PG2G]

Yay I finally got the update we've been waiting so long for.


...what did it add besides the glance screen?

That is why it was kind of annoying hearing people bitch and moan about this release taking so long to be pushed out. There isn't shit in it. GDR3 is the one e care about

At least you can use Nokia Pro Cam though.

Read this for more details: http://www.wpcentral.com/att-amber-and-gdr2-updates-nokia-lumia-920-live

 

[antiquegamer]

That is why it was kind of annoying hearing people bitch and moan about this release taking so long to be pushed out. There isn't shit in it. GDR3 is the one e care about

At least you can use Nokia Pro Cam though.

Read this for more details: http://www.wpcentral.com/att-amber-and-gdr2-updates-nokia-lumia-920-live

What it fix a lot of little annoying things, and should have come a lot sooner. ProCam is league better than Microsoft camera app and smartCam is great not to mention it should fix Xbox Music.

 

[Steelyuhas]

So, update went smoothly, took about 15 minutes.

Already two issues though:
-Xbox Music "improvements": already can't load the more episodes of podcasts from the store section on several of the podcasts I normally listen to.
-Nokia Pro Cam is pretty great, and I made it my default lens through that new menu option. Unfortunately it crashes when I take a picture about half the time.

 

[Milchjon]

Even more proof that Apple was copying MS with iOS7.

 

[hadareud]

Also looks like the 5c is not doing too well.

Even there they copy MS.

 

[Zeknurn]

How can the 5c not be doing well? It's a "new" product from Apple and it's "cheap".

 

[hadareud]

Yeah, I'm surprised as well.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57606922-37/apple-reportedly-cutting-iphone-5c-production-in-half/

Who knows, it could be bollocks.

 

[Doffen]

lol, Apple should have cut the price, not the production.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

The 5C is still expensive, why you would choose it over the 5S is beyond me.

 

[kharma45]

Spinning gears is when you factory reset.

I got it on my gf's phone when I updated it to GDR2/Amber.

 

[brotkasten]

 

[VanMardigan]

The only thing I can see from that chart is that Samsung is beasting. Even Apple is fading fast.

 

[ElNino]

How can the 5c not be doing well? It's a "new" product from Apple and it's "cheap".

Well, I wouldn't really call it "cheap" considering my on-contract 1020 was $50 less than the 5c here on Rogers. 32GB 1020 for $180 vs 32GB 5c for $230.

Edit: I should add though that my wife's work is finally letting them switch from BlackBerry to iPhone if they wish, but they can only get the 5c, not the 5s. I figured they would opt for the 5s for the (possibly) better security with the finger print scanner since she is a CA (auditor) and would have plenty of private information on her phone/email.

 

[hadareud]

Nokia are releasing their Q3 numbers next week, right?

Should be interesting whether they could add another 30 or so percent on the Lumias. At 10 million, I think they'd be very close to overtaking all of LG, Sony and HTC.

edit: actually not LG, they've shipped 12 million smartphones in Q2.

 

[kazinova]

GDR2 is worth getting for:

RADIO (I like listening to sports talk radio every now and then)
Pro Cam
Smart Cam
Glance and Glance Beta (I like glance, it's cool to wave near the phone when I leave it out on my desk to see the time)

Pro Cam question, is there a way to get multiple controls on the screen at once? I remember seeing all the wheels up at once and I can only get one at a time.

 

[PG2G]

Pro Cam question, is there a way to get multiple controls on the screen at once? I remember seeing all the wheels up at once and I can only get one at a time.

Slide the camera button (on the right) to the left a little.

GDR2 improves image quality as well.

Glance screen glowing on me. Handy when I'm half sleep and wondering what time it is lol

 

[maeh2k]

The only thing I can see from that chart is that Samsung is beasting. Even Apple is fading fast.

So far Apple's revenues are still growing. They are just more seasonal than Samsung's. If we were looking at profits, the roles would be reversed. Apple has a huge profit share. Nokia on the other hand mostly sells cheap phones they don't make much money on.

 

[VanMardigan]

Glance screen is one of those things that you just expect all smartphones to have from now on.

 

[PG2G]

Glance screen is one of those things that you just expect all smartphones to have from now on.

I think it should just replace the lock screen completely. It'd be nice if when I wake it, it'd unlock (or give me the pin entry) without the additional action if sliding up.

Maybe in the first Microkia release

 

[José Mourinho]

Is there reason why I'm unable to get Pro Cam?

 

[SCHUEY F1]

I only like using glance if it is on all the time, but it feels weird having something on the screen all the time as well.

 

[kharma45]

Is there reason why I'm unable to get Pro Cam?

Only for 92x and 1020. You have to use the VPN trick to get it.

 

[ElNino]

I only like using glance if it is on all the time, but it feels weird having something on the screen all the time as well.

I'm finding I like the Peek setting the best. When I pull phone out of my pocket, the glance screen activates so I can check the time easily (and notifications when they are added).

 

[antiquegamer]

I got it on my gf's phone when I updated it to GDR2/Amber.

But did it stuck on spinning for hours or day? That's what happen often time on 920 when you do full reset.

 

[PseudoKirby]

Why doesnt glance work am I using it wrong? and the clock stays on all the time prolly killing the battery.

hover hand over show status right?

Lumia 820

 

[PG2G]

Why doesnt glance work am I using it wrong? and the clock stays on all the time prolly killing the battery.

hover hand over show status right?

Lumia 820

Set it to peek instead of always on

 

[killer rin]

I only like using glance if it is on all the time, but it feels weird having something on the screen all the time as well.

Speaking of the Glance Screen. Once Nokia gets bought by Microsoft I wonder what will happen to the specific Nokia updates which bring these kinds of updates. Will Nokia still continue to do them to help push their products, or does Microsoft take those updates and put them in a general Windows Phone release for all products.

 

[brotkasten]

Speaking of the Glance Screen. Once Nokia gets bought by Microsoft I wonder what will happen to the specific Nokia updates which bring these kinds of updates. Will Nokia still continue to do them to help push their products, or does Microsoft take those updates and put them in a general Windows Phone release for all products.

Glance is going to be a Windows Phone feature.

 

[PseudoKirby]

Set it to peek instead of always on

its already on peek.

 

[johnny_park]

its already on peek.

Is it plugged in?

 

[dLMN8R]

Ok, now that I have GDR2 I have a question about Pro Cam. In a lot of the press and coverage, I keep seeing this image:

I also remember reading about how Pro Cam would automatically suggest for you the best settings, and give you a warning if you've manually selected settings that could result in a poor shot given the circumstances.


On my 920, though, all I see is the little adjustment bar across the top, and I can only show one of the "rings" at a time. I'd really like to do what I see in that image - show all the adjustment bars at the same time.

Is there something I'm missing? Or is that only available on the 1020?

 

[VanMardigan]

Slide the camera button (on the right) to the left a little.

GDR2 improves image quality as well.

Glance screen glowing on me. Handy when I'm half sleep and wondering what time it is lol

Ok, now that I have GDR2 I have a question about Pro Cam. In a lot of the press and coverage, I keep seeing this image:

I also remember reading about how Pro Cam would automatically suggest for you the best settings, and give you a warning if you've manually selected settings that could result in a poor shot given the circumstances.


On my 920, though, all I see is the little adjustment bar across the top, and I can only show one of the "rings" at a time. I'd really like to do what I see in that image - show all the adjustment bars at the same time.

Is there something I'm missing? Or is that only available on the 1020?

 

[dLMN8R]

hah! Serves me right for thinking I'm special and have a unique question that no one else could have possibly asked in the new posts that arrived since I last looked at this thread

 

[SCHUEY F1]

One thing that bugs me with Pro Cam on the 920 is when you take picture and then look at the preview for a split second the colour balance is different.

 

[PseudoKirby]

Is it plugged in?

nope.

 

[Fjolle]

Speaking of the Glance Screen. Once Nokia gets bought by Microsoft I wonder what will happen to the specific Nokia updates which bring these kinds of updates. Will Nokia still continue to do them to help push their products, or does Microsoft take those updates and put them in a general Windows Phone release for all products.

Obviously Microsoft is going to copy Google and decouple everything from the kernel. Then the Nokia ninjas will dish out updates to everything every other week

 

[lastflowers]

Obviously Microsoft is going to copy Google and decouple everything from the kernel. Then the Nokia ninjas will dish out updates to everything every other week

I'm very interested in seeing how MS proceeds with the unification of the Win/Phone into the mega-group. Who knows, maybe dLMN8R and I will be building-mates.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Rudy Hyun started working on a project for Microsoft on Monday...wonder what it could be??

 

[freshair]

One thing that bugs me with Pro Cam on the 920 is when you take picture and then look at the preview for a split second the colour balance is different.

Yeah, it's a "bug" that's apparently affecting the majority of users. Colors and focus are off comparatively between the preview and what's saved to the camera roll.

Some suggest using Smart Shoot resolves the issue, and others are recommending the 3rd party camera ProShot.

 

[brotkasten]

Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but wasn't GDR2 supposed to enable Podcasts in all regions?

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but wasn't GDR2 supposed to enable Podcasts in all regions?

I thought it was supposed to expand it. Definitely didn't in Canada.