This statement needs to be retracted so fast that it gives you whiplash!
Awful person? Yes.
Awful character? No.
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Winter 2014 Anime |OT| I've got to find a dandy guy who killed my dad in the space
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This statement needs to be retracted so fast that it gives you whiplash!
Awful person? Yes.
Awful character? No.
Shit, we need to get all of our insularity out before the thread in OT goes up tomorrow.
BassForever
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Tenchi GXP Dub 26
When I said I wanted harem ending I just wanted it to be the main 4, I didn't want what I got
FUCK THAT ENDING
When I said I wanted harem ending I just wanted it to be the main 4, I didn't want what I got
FUCK THAT ENDING
That whole mech thing was weird. Though if one guy has his own superpowerful personal mech I can understand why the army would be rather down on that. Though if it only works for that one guy they are pretty screwed.
I liked the ending. Mostly. Does away with the stupid nonsense in harems of choosing.
BassForever
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I agree, I was ecstatic that I was getting a harem end... and then Seina got kidnapped
raped
a much bigger harem end
Honestly I love the set up behind the harem end for this series but jeebus they just had to mess it up
Well guess I will watch this after I'm done with Eva then, thanks.
Yeah, my bad, I meant more as in a character I don't want to be friends with. I don't mind the way she is written narrative wise and whatnot.
To me it seemed like a cheap way of getting out of showing the ceremony. They basically just cut away and now everyone is married (plus extras).
astrogamer
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Trigun 11
Too bad Wolfwood is leaving. He was pretty damn cool and supplement Vash's character well. Well Vash was pretty cool in this episode
Too bad Wolfwood is leaving. He was pretty damn cool and supplement Vash's character well. Well Vash was pretty cool in this episode
Understandable - they're not meant to be a particularly likeable bunch anyway. I mean, Misato is my favorite character, but when you start peeling back the layers, she's just as damaged as any of the other characters (if not more so). It's all just varying levels of disgust, basically!
There's an amazing disconnect between what people perceive Evangelion as, and what it actually represents. It's such a morbid and caustic work, that I still find it slightly jarring how popular it is - not to mention how many of its fans simply don't seem particularly concerned with those aspects, or what they imply.
KnightBuster
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Neon Genesis Evangelion 01
I've had this on my list for many, many moons. Finally saw the first episode. Daddy issues are strong in this one. I'll have to watch a bit more to form an opinion, but otherwise, it's fun as an opening episode.
I've had this on my list for many, many moons. Finally saw the first episode. Daddy issues are strong in this one. I'll have to watch a bit more to form an opinion, but otherwise, it's fun as an opening episode.
hipsterpants
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Yamato 16
Well that was convenient. Shocked that
Also I should mention that my roommates are watching Toradora! (I'm in the same room) 2anime4me.
Well that was convenient. Shocked that
evil-looking security officer turned out to be evil! What a twist! And dammit obese engineer guy, you had even earned your superiors' trust 
Also I should mention that my roommates are watching Toradora! (I'm in the same room) 2anime4me.
R_thanatos
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i was disapointed too at first .. and then i went .. more people would be cool , so why not ?
Also don't forget , fuku is a bride too
she will get a human body later after all , like fuu & ryoko
BassForever
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9 chick orgy is pretty sweet
Anyways back to Desert Punk
Desert Punk Dub 6
In classic DP style, it was all part of the plan, but after winning he loses badly and doesn't get laid or money in the end. Decent conclusion to the mini arc though I'm looking forward to seeing his new little girl partner next episode.
Magi S2 1
Well, this was definitely a far more promising start to this season compared to the first one. The first part with a glimpse of the upcoming
owned so hard thanks to some excellent animation, really makes me look forward to them actually adapting it and I never thought I'd say that about the
of all things!
The rest of the episode was filled with the usual dumb & funny antics of the cast and seemed to be sticking closer to the source material. Hell, they didn't even acknowledge BLACK KING ALIBABA yet! The production values were also far more consistent than S1 (though that may be due to budget frontloading) and even the music seemed far more fitting for the series. Definitely bodes well for the rest of it.
also "drunk" kanahana &
Well, this was definitely a far more promising start to this season compared to the first one. The first part with a glimpse of the upcoming
war arc
war arc
The rest of the episode was filled with the usual dumb & funny antics of the cast and seemed to be sticking closer to the source material. Hell, they didn't even acknowledge BLACK KING ALIBABA yet! The production values were also far more consistent than S1 (though that may be due to budget frontloading) and even the music seemed far more fitting for the series. Definitely bodes well for the rest of it.
also "drunk" kanahana &
dunya
dakkumauji
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noooo, I don't want to watch Magi S2
Genki pink hair is so great. Love her.
Realpic of you carrying a Taiga plushie must happen.
What the shit did I just read.
...Damnit he did it again...
Magi S2 1
Well, this was definitely a far more promising start to this season compared to the first one. The first part with a glimpse of the upcomingowned so hard thanks to some excellent animation, really makes me look forward to them actually adapting it and I never thought I'd say that about thewar arcof all things!war arc
The rest of the episode was filled with the usual dumb & funny antics of the cast and seemed to be sticking closer to the source material. Hell, they didn't even acknowledge BLACK KING ALIBABA yet! The production values were also far more consistent than S1 (though that may be due to budget frontloading) and even the music seemed far more fitting for the series. Definitely bodes well for the rest of it.
also "drunk" kanahana &dunya
Would watch S2 for drunk Ren but heard shes not in it much.
Dedication Through Light
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Just finally realized we have two shows with Regalias as major themes this season, how odd. (Nobunaga the Fool and now Noragami).
Trust me, just start with ep8!
If more people watched Magi S2 maybe I wouldn't have to read about how good people think the Kill la Kill action scenes are.
hosannainexcelsis
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You didn't even watch episodes 2-7!
Admiral Woofington
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anime seems to have a list of english keywords to use in their anime. Most of the time for comedic effect.
I watch shows for plot, and that plot was just so god damn boring not even great animation (lol cg) could save it.
Razgriz-Specter
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alright thanks everyone,
going to give it a shot after I get further into White Album 2.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Someone get me a Taiga plushie and I'll totally do it. :lol
EDIT: Hm. Shoulda turned Safesearch on before image searching "Toradora Taiga Plush", apparently.
This is how you're choosing to mount a defense for Kill la Kill?
Admiral Woofington
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.....
Maybe should've specified I was referring to Kill La Kill in the above.
Which type of plot are we talking about?
Because I value my time!
Fate/stay night
A Legend is Sung of When England Was Young
The associations I make before I know something. For a long time, I placed Higurashi and Fate in the same rough category. VNs with a strong authorial voice and a Deen adaptation, only I've actually seen the former. But since Prisma Illya got me into the world of Type Moon at last last year, and with the remake on the way, I figured it was in my best interest to get on with it now. Watching Fate for context for Illya is backwards, but this is a trend with me, it seems.
I'm on the fence about Shiro. His gender politics do seem a little wonky at times, but his desire to save everybody is at least a noble goal, even if he goes about it in the most self-destructive ways at times. Otherwise, he's a fairly standard lead for this sort of thing. And I do like the way his abilities developed over the course of the story, building on what he'd already established.
Rin's mostly the same as I knew her in Illya, and Illyasviel herself is quite different. Once she moved into the Emiya house she became a little more like the version of herself I'm familiar with, but I get the feeling she was created to play off the contrast of the youngest fighter having the most invincible and heaviest hitter of the Servants. Everyone else filled their roles well enough - you can only get to know people so much in a battle royale type series - though I wish Caster and Rider had played larger parts, but I do know this anime is based on one of three routes. I've done my research.
Unlimited Blade Works has such a natural osmosis in the anime fandom that I knew about it long before I ever watched it, and seeing it in context, it is just as cool as I had been led to believe. Archer went out with a bang. I've also been spoiled that
Enough hints were given in the series that implied it anyway.
Having played a fair share of VNs myself, the pacing definitely matched what I know of how long one route can be expected to last. If it can sustain one 24-episode series, it must be on par with a game from light. I was surprised it took three episodes before Saber was summoned and the story actually started moving. Enough elements that would come into play later were set up in those three, but it's not something I'm used to.
Then there's Saber herself. One of Ayako Kawasumi's most notable roles. Though largely stoic in nature, Kawasumi's acting did show her tender side plenty of times. My VN experience comes from a world where the games already have voices, so when this aired, the voices chosen here were the first time the characters ever spoke. I wonder what the reaction was to that at the time. Since they've stuck around into future spin-off media, I'm guessing it was well enough.
And going back to wonky gender politics, Gilgamesh. Shiro at least treated Saber the way he did out of a sort of naive ignorance. This guy was just creepy and douchey. Some of the comments he made in the final battle in particular. So glad when Saber offed him.
In many ways, the story feels like a familiar one, and I'm sure there are details about the intricate magic system I only barely know about, yet I enjoyed it. Visual novel anime aren't super common these days, and anything popular enough to still be relevant even now must have some sort of staying power. Every Master and Servant has their own story, and characters like Rin and Saber are decent twists on their archetypes.
As far as theme music goes, I liked listening to the second opening a little more, the first opening had a nice musicality to it. I'm also aware it was the game OP, so good choice on that one. The ending was also easy to listen to, even if very simple animation-wise. I've never heard the character songs, but I should get to that.
Final Thoughts: The animation is a little cheap in places, and things had to be simplified. Still, I saw this for the first time, and I can understand the appeal of it. It's a well thought out world, the mythology is researched and the magic system is consistent. Even with oddities like CGI dragons (did that thing fly in from a PS1?), the story's simple enough to hold up, yet has enough nuance to its characters that it can inspire plenty of discussion.
I think I like Prisma Illya a little more, just because I'm biased towards magical girl series. And I'm still not interested in Fate/Zero. I got plenty of backstory in here, and don't feel an immediate need to watch a full series of that.
I look forward to seeing how the remake covers the same(?) material, and now I can understand more of the callbacks in the second season of Prisma Illya. I'll get to UBW in a few days, want to chase this down with another series, give my mind some time to clear itself of Magi and Arthurian legends.
Bonus Round!
Fate/Prototype
This was only 12 minutes, and existed, so why the heck not? A lot can change in the creative process, it seems. Apparently things went from Biblical to Arthurian somewhere in the redrafting. Having the female protagonist (all the Masters, it seems) and all the male servants makes it seem more like an otome game than what it ultimately ended up becoming. The magic looks a lot more brutal than the final draft, too. I can't say for certain I would've liked this version more. It's like a distorted prism of the series. A lot of the familiar elements are there, but they're not quite as I know them.
King of Heroes, do you have enough swords?
A Legend is Sung of When England Was Young
The associations I make before I know something. For a long time, I placed Higurashi and Fate in the same rough category. VNs with a strong authorial voice and a Deen adaptation, only I've actually seen the former. But since Prisma Illya got me into the world of Type Moon at last last year, and with the remake on the way, I figured it was in my best interest to get on with it now. Watching Fate for context for Illya is backwards, but this is a trend with me, it seems.
I'm on the fence about Shiro. His gender politics do seem a little wonky at times, but his desire to save everybody is at least a noble goal, even if he goes about it in the most self-destructive ways at times. Otherwise, he's a fairly standard lead for this sort of thing. And I do like the way his abilities developed over the course of the story, building on what he'd already established.
Rin's mostly the same as I knew her in Illya, and Illyasviel herself is quite different. Once she moved into the Emiya house she became a little more like the version of herself I'm familiar with, but I get the feeling she was created to play off the contrast of the youngest fighter having the most invincible and heaviest hitter of the Servants. Everyone else filled their roles well enough - you can only get to know people so much in a battle royale type series - though I wish Caster and Rider had played larger parts, but I do know this anime is based on one of three routes. I've done my research.
Unlimited Blade Works has such a natural osmosis in the anime fandom that I knew about it long before I ever watched it, and seeing it in context, it is just as cool as I had been led to believe. Archer went out with a bang. I've also been spoiled that
Archer is another version of Shiro, but I'll wait until I see the UBW movie to draw more conclusions on this matter.
Having played a fair share of VNs myself, the pacing definitely matched what I know of how long one route can be expected to last. If it can sustain one 24-episode series, it must be on par with a game from light. I was surprised it took three episodes before Saber was summoned and the story actually started moving. Enough elements that would come into play later were set up in those three, but it's not something I'm used to.
Then there's Saber herself. One of Ayako Kawasumi's most notable roles. Though largely stoic in nature, Kawasumi's acting did show her tender side plenty of times. My VN experience comes from a world where the games already have voices, so when this aired, the voices chosen here were the first time the characters ever spoke. I wonder what the reaction was to that at the time. Since they've stuck around into future spin-off media, I'm guessing it was well enough.
And going back to wonky gender politics, Gilgamesh. Shiro at least treated Saber the way he did out of a sort of naive ignorance. This guy was just creepy and douchey. Some of the comments he made in the final battle in particular. So glad when Saber offed him.
In many ways, the story feels like a familiar one, and I'm sure there are details about the intricate magic system I only barely know about, yet I enjoyed it. Visual novel anime aren't super common these days, and anything popular enough to still be relevant even now must have some sort of staying power. Every Master and Servant has their own story, and characters like Rin and Saber are decent twists on their archetypes.
As far as theme music goes, I liked listening to the second opening a little more, the first opening had a nice musicality to it. I'm also aware it was the game OP, so good choice on that one. The ending was also easy to listen to, even if very simple animation-wise. I've never heard the character songs, but I should get to that.
Final Thoughts: The animation is a little cheap in places, and things had to be simplified. Still, I saw this for the first time, and I can understand the appeal of it. It's a well thought out world, the mythology is researched and the magic system is consistent. Even with oddities like CGI dragons (did that thing fly in from a PS1?), the story's simple enough to hold up, yet has enough nuance to its characters that it can inspire plenty of discussion.
I think I like Prisma Illya a little more, just because I'm biased towards magical girl series. And I'm still not interested in Fate/Zero. I got plenty of backstory in here, and don't feel an immediate need to watch a full series of that.
I look forward to seeing how the remake covers the same(?) material, and now I can understand more of the callbacks in the second season of Prisma Illya. I'll get to UBW in a few days, want to chase this down with another series, give my mind some time to clear itself of Magi and Arthurian legends.
Bonus Round!
Fate/Prototype
This was only 12 minutes, and existed, so why the heck not? A lot can change in the creative process, it seems. Apparently things went from Biblical to Arthurian somewhere in the redrafting. Having the female protagonist (all the Masters, it seems) and all the male servants makes it seem more like an otome game than what it ultimately ended up becoming. The magic looks a lot more brutal than the final draft, too. I can't say for certain I would've liked this version more. It's like a distorted prism of the series. A lot of the familiar elements are there, but they're not quite as I know them.
King of Heroes, do you have enough swords?
Didn't you watch all of the first season?
dakkumauji
Member
Fine, I'll just stick Magi S2 into backlog hell and go from there.
Nooooo, watch F/Z it's its own story and it's really good.
Magi has a lot of plot and a lot of plot. Sometimes both are pretty bad though unless you're into balloons.
I think I died a little reading this post. What a huge disservice saying this after watching Fate/Stay Night.
dakkumauji
Member
We all know Fate/Apocrypha is the Fate series worth waiting for
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an adaptation of
KirbYuuYuu
Member
L-LEWD
Lol no way. I dropped it after ep8. Went back in for ep13-15 or something, it was still bad, dropped it again. Watched the final 2 episodes for the action animation. Terrible season.
That was exactly my reaction when I tried to watch Fate/Zero after watching Stay/Night. I got through about two episodes before dropping it.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Ok first off
With that out of the way, you should really watch Fate Zero. Having played all three routes of FSN and watched FZ, FZ is still the best Fate media period. Closest that might hold a candle to it is Heavens Feel, and that's ruined because Shiro is a Naruto protagonist whose whole "I want to save everybody" is just a bastardization of Kiritsugu's ideals. And Kiritisugu is anime Batman.
As a huge proponent of Fate stay night, Fate Zero is on a completely better level.
Why would you watch everything in the series except the one that is actually good?
I guess I confused someone else's impressions for yours.
BassForever
Member
Desert Punk Dub 7
Kasuna is really funny, add the dynamic she adds to Desert Punk's character. At least Desert Punk understands his priorities, making a boobie paradise for only him in the desert.
Kasuna is really funny, add the dynamic she adds to Desert Punk's character. At least Desert Punk understands his priorities, making a boobie paradise for only him in the desert.
I read this as, "I ate Applebee's steak and I just don't want to eat some super fancy badass fucking steak in a gourmet restaurant."
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