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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time

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Black Bullet 01

Pretty boring. The plot's average, the characters are pretty average. Even the fabulous villain wasn't interesting enough to want to keep watching.
 

Quasar

Member
I've heard people say it on streams and podcasts, but never in real life. But always in reference to muscular men and never in reference to women.

I've never heard it before either in reference to women (those other meanings I've heard quite a bit, but I'm in Australia). That said I'd kind of find it odd for them to grab a simile not used in the US for a US translation made by I assume US folks.
 
That's why I love Xam'd. Nakiami is the best female character in any anime I've seen and is a real exception with no cop outs whatsoever.
Xam'd? I don't know that one.

Well, some series like Full Metal Alchemist are pretty good while having prominent male characters and being shonen, but usually you would have a better job done when a woman creates it.
Yeah, on that second point, no. Unfortunately, women can be just as sexist against their own gender as men can.

On the first, aren't the main characters male? I watched some of the first anime of FMA, and I don't remember female characters doing much of the actual fighting... which is, of course, ultimately the main focus in any shonen action series. But it's probably better-written than many animes, sure, female characters included.

I dunno about that. Most female shoujo protagonists make me cringe, even if written by women.
Yeah, shoujo seems to be just different in general, not better-written on sexism/gender issues.

Are you talking about younger characters too? Because a lot of mahou shoujo has strong younger characters that arent sexualized.
Most mahou shoujo series fit straight into the "no significant male characters" thing, though... or at least recent ones sure do. Before that it's a mixed bag on the male characters front, but ones like Tuxedo Mask saving Sailor Moon constantly sure are sexist stereotypes!

Also, sexism isn't just about sexualizing characters. Also mahou shoujo certainly do negatively stereotype the characters in various ways, even if they also have them doing the action scenes too. Some other genres are worse, certainly, but that one is hardly free of it, to say the least!

Sturgeon's Law plus Japanese issues with sexism mean that you likely won't be tripping all over "strong female characters" in Japanese media but I don't think they are that hard to find if you exert just a small bit of effort (I assume we are specifically talking female characters that have some degree of sex appeal and that inhabit universes where there are male characters worth a damn).

Though then what constitutes a "strong female character" and appropriate and inappropriate degrees of sexualization is never clear and often lead these sorts of discussions into every party just shouting "I disagree" to each other :/ :p

Plus if you try to do a comparative study between mediums and national cultures you run into more issue with quantification and definition :/
I know, studies have shown that Japan and South Korea are the most sexist developed countries outside of the Middle East. And that absolutely shows in their games, certainly; a big part of the problem, why sexism in anime is so bad and has always been the thing I hate most about it, is because Japan is so far behind the West on gender issues. There are other (third-world and Middle Eastern) countries even further back, but of the developed world they are behind. And yes, of course anime reflects that.

However, that doesn't make it any less bad... that's an explanation, not an excuse that makes it okay.


As for the rest of this, the main problem is that, as I said, those "strong female characters" virtually always like the main male character for no reason other than sexism and wish fulfillment, as that comic pointed out. Sure, they're in some ways strong, but in other ways they are not, due to the sexist nature of the relationship element there.

That the only real solution in anime seems to be 'just get rid of the male characters, that gets rid of the problem' is kind of sad...
 

Nafe

Member
Speaking of Rarity freakouts, catching up on S4 right now and ep 13 is all NTR.

I watched the first few episodes but the last episode I saw was that one with Fluttershy titled "Bats" that you had commented on. At some point I'll probably watch the rest myself.

I have never heard this term used to describe a woman in this way. Weird.

Well it certainly surprised me anyway.

Both "brickhouse" and "amazeballs".

I've never ever heard this before. Is this really used in the US?

Amazeballs I've seen on the internet, hopefully no one has ever uttered it aloud in the real world.

Ah. This reminds me of the English dub of Persona 4 where one or two of the characters ask/say "For serious?". I'm pretty sure I saw someone post that in one of the anime threads here once but other than that I can't recall ever hearing/seeing anyone use that phrase.

Thats how Crunchyroll subbed that scene in the episode.

Okay. I knew the original Japanese wouldn't translate to that but I wasn't sure if it was something the subber just made up on their own or if it was an actual saying kids used these days.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
Has anyone here actually read an LN and not just seen an adaptation?

I read fan translation of SAO vol. 1, and i genuinely think it was decent then i read vol. 2, and i realize how this is going to suck balls

Other LN that i read and have good adaptation or good story all around
- Suzumiya Haruhi
- Welcome to NHK
- Fate Zero
- Oreimo (i think season 1 is okay)

I'm still waiting for Kizumonogatari adaptation...
 
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 14
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Thoughts during episode:

- What a cute little sister. Why is Kyon the way he is when he has Haruhi and a little sis like that. Lucky bastard.
- "
Who wrote this scenario
?" I chuckled.
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! As the credit list rolled for the staff the
credit after the director was "Ultra Director: Haruhi Suzumiya"
. Too funny.
- Haruhi seeing Kyon playing Mikaru. Tsk tsk tsk.
- The return of the
Bunny Suit.
- Well clearly Haruhi is pissed off because of Kyon. Don't worry about that loser Haruhi. You're too good for him anyways.
- The sister is ADORABLE! Your also too good for Kyon!
- Well this is an interesting turn of events.
- Haruhi holding onto Kyon's jacket is cute.
- Heh. Haruhi side comments are the best.
- LOL. I love Kyon's face when he hears this news and how they cut to Haruhi grinning when she's in the hall after he's told this.
- Haha nice joke esper man. Anything that pisses off Kyon pleases me greatly.
- Nagato? Sleeping Beauty? Seven Dwarfs? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
- Lol. Only Haruhi would react like this.
- Kyon you're only thinking about yourself. You are only saying what you want.
- That was a cool move man. Still don't like Kyon but it took guts to do that.
- Haha. Haruhi has a
ponytail
. Lol.
- Mikaru's screams for help are hilarious.
- Awwww. How cute.
They're on a date
.

Summary:

So... I can see how in broadcast order this would've been a satisfying conclusion. However, I am watching it in chronological order and honestly this was a satisfying conclusion to this "Melancholy" arc. Haruhi was awesome as always and Kyon was still a buzzkill as always. He got better in the last 5 minutes there but dude is still a little prick. Anyways I liked how everything progressed and really showed how Haruhi isn't messing around. Should be fun to watch the rest hopefully. As long as there's more Haruhi hijinks. :)
 
Air 12 END

Dang, Misuzu you really know how to tug at the heart.

Wait...huh.
What a...non-end. I'll reflect on it some more but this was kinda a mess of an ending, unless they were trying to say that curses shall continue forever? I mean it was great that Misuzu gets an emotional conclusion, but really I was kinda expecting an that had more Yukito, who without question, got sidelined hard at the end of this whole thing. Strange ending.

Well, I still have a summary/recap episode I guess, plus two bonus Air in Summer episodes. Final remarks then.

Angel Beats! 12

Shit's winding down. The sudden emptiness left by people as
they get obliterated ala BATMAN SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S LIKE
is pretty heavy. I liked that effect.

Yo, what the fuck is up with Yurippe's writing? Like, jesus, what a tonal shift there for a second. You could've handled that a lot better, guys.
And you fuck up those computers without trying to help your dude who got devoured earlier? If you were some how able to escape from being an NPC, surely you can figure out a way to save him? Nope, fuck these monitors!

No real villain behind this, why am I not fucking surprised. So what, are you gonna spend the last episode hunting down the Programmer or what? I thought you were probably gonna spend the last episode saying good bye, not still trying to wrap up setting shit. smh.

Oh well, last episode soon.

Kiniro Mosaic 11

Okay, I know I was asking for more Engrish, but...yikes.

I feel like you missed a few lines there. I'll fill you in if you have any questions after episode 13 of Angel Beats. They already explained what happened to the programmer and why everything is the way it is. They just explain it really fast. I think you'll be happy with episode 13.
 
man why is anime actually legit bad this season?

like im feeling nothing for pretty much all the shows of week 1.

Think i might get a certification or something instead.
 

survivor

Banned
Lovely Complex 3
Otani you piece of shit, just
accept the damn fucking chocolate, you deserve to lose to Haruka now but we all know it's not gonna happen
Also I'm not sure how I feel about duplicating characters design although that new character is probably gone for good now.

On another note, what is it with these vanishing and disappearing backgrounds?
There can't be a way where someone said "yep, this is the style of the show, just add more white shadows that make the art disappear, it will look great" I think there was another shoujo anime, We Were There that the same thing. It's really unappealing and makes it the entire scene feel cheap. Which is really disappointing especially when in contrast the expressive characters, they deserve better backgrounds :(
 

cajunator

Banned
Do not listen to this person. Don't do this to yourself man. No one who loved Madoka should have to watch Rebellion. Rebellion is just soul-crushing for the sake of acting as a continuation.

Trust me, just keep the good memories that you have of the show and leave it at that.

Im actually quite looking forward to watching it.
 

Nafe

Member
Lies! Ufotable's recent Yoyo and Nene had a 2D animated car segment!

Ufotable did the OVA Minori Scramble! which had a 2D car chase scene as well.

I personally thought it was pretty fun and cute. If people get the chance to watch it then I'd recommend it. :)

Love Live
http://i.imgur.com/fbzTAEtl.jpg

It's baaaack.

I will say, the twist at the beginning of the episode was clever to me. And because of Gravity, I cracked up at the final shot of the episode.

But yeah, this show is what it is, a really light school girl comedy with some vague goal in mind to drive the show forward. This is sort of what I felt Glee became after its mostly good (fake pregnancy aside) first season, where they're on autopilot mode. Here's hoping they don't lose the plot, but you can't really have that many expectations.

I already got my obtuse Gravity reference (which really isn't a reference), so I'm happy.

Pretty much,haha. I still haven't seen Gravity but I did watch this first episode. I'll comment on it later but the whole spinning/upside down type shot was done long before Gravity,haha.

Oh well, I guess it's still kind of funny to think about though.

Not around here it isn't.

I noticed. It seems like almost everyone here likes brown/tan moe.

That reminds me of Regulus getting playfully miffed that he has more tanned skin and people here didn't comment that he was all moe because of it,haha.

Oh wow, I guess you don't pay much attention to twitter. ;)

Studio Ghibli hasn't made or been involved with any good anime movie.
Their movies are always visually unappealing and full of dull characters.
All of Miyazaki's films are terrible.
Wolf Children is one of the worst anime movies ever made.

In contrast to:

Diabolik Lovers is a good and underrated show. Sexual harassment? What? Where?
The Sword Art Online anime is legitimately well written, with its second half being even better than the first. Kirito is a great main character, it's confusing how people don't like him.

Yeah...
 

Crocodile

Member
I know, studies have shown that Japan and South Korea are the most sexist developed countries outside of the Middle East. And that absolutely shows in their games, certainly; a big part of the problem, why sexism in anime is so bad and has always been the thing I hate most about it, is because Japan is so far behind the West on gender issues. There are other (third-world and Middle Eastern) countries even further back, but of the developed world they are behind. And yes, of course anime reflects that.

However, that doesn't make it any less bad... that's an explanation, not an excuse that makes it okay.


As for the rest of this, the main problem is that, as I said, those "strong female characters" virtually always like the main male character for no reason other than sexism and wish fulfillment, as that comic pointed out. Sure, they're in some ways strong, but in other ways they are not, due to the sexist nature of the relationship element there.

That the only real solution in anime seems to be 'just get rid of the male characters, that gets rid of the problem' is kind of sad...

Like if you are talking about the LN adaptation du jour or some "Magical Girlfriend" show where the male protagonist may have few to no redeeming qualities and the women flock to him regardless then yeah. If you're talking about any anime that I feel most here would hold in high regard like Ghost in the Shell:SAC, Black Lagoon, Full Metal Alchemist, Fate/Zero, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann or even shows held in lesser regard like Soul Eater and Outlaw Star with females who have active, action-oriented roles that have interactions or relationships with prominent male characters then I think you are off the mark. You say you haven't watched Full Metal Alchemist yet I know you completed Infinite Stratos both seasons right? So maybe you need to watch less shitty anime?
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Pretty much,haha. I still haven't seen Gravity but I did watch this first episode. I'll comment on it later but the whole spinning/upside down type shot was done long before Gravity,haha.

Oh, I know, but to do it in Gravity, it cost millions of dollars and 3 months of time on a render farm. The fact that it probably took 5 minutes in Love Live is just funny to me. lol
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
We're all being sent to t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶p̶h̶a̶n̶a̶g̶e̶ Animesuki.


Lol this place! I dropped that place quick after they started mandating you couldn't have discussions about anime that was licensed. Place was strange.
 

cajunator

Banned
Already confirmed long ago when Aniplex USA picked it up, but Nanana's coming to Crunchyroll.

Also, that's two seasons in a row Rui Tanabe has been cast as a purple-haired girl at the center of a mystery.

Purple haired girl? Ok im interested.

So did you guys like the way I did impressions with Madoka and want me to do it like that this point forward? Or was it a failed experiment and I should not use it anymore/go back to what I was doing before?

I quite liked it! Adding the summary at the end is a wise choice.

Has anyone here actually read an LN and not just seen an adaptation?

a tiny bit of Kino and Twelve kingdoms. My roommate has a bunch.

Buuuuuuuuuurn

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Banderas.webm you mean!
 
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