I don't see this movie getting good WoM at all (from casuals, general audience). It's like a PG-13 Watchmen, it just doesn't have the mass market appeal. This movie could've had better writing but still not have good WoM (would've had better reviews that's about it) because the action content is actually kinda low percent wise.
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You're arguing semantics - you know exactly what I mean. I'll re-word my argument differently to appeal to your sensibilities. Not to help you understand - because you know exactly what I mean. I'll re-word the argument only to get past this semantics squabble: The movie reviews from RottenTomatoes.com didn't mean shit, because people still came out to watch the movie and people don't give a fuck what movie critics on that web site say.
Pop-O-Matic
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It's about time we got that Youngblood movie.
Scientist Supreme!
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I don't think you understand what your saying.
Bobby Roberts
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It's not really semantics. Your entire argument is predicated on the idea that word of mouth and reviews are separate. They're not. When you tell someone your thoughts on a movie, you're reviewing it. That's all you're doing. Word of mouth is nothing but a lot of that happening amongst a lot of people.
Opening weekend has nothing to do with critical consensus or word of mouth really, only in the most extreme of circumstances does such a thing really cause a dent (and even then, it's mostly just a dent). Arguing that this film gave the big bird to the scenario you're putting forth isn't much of an argument, because it pretty much never happens.
Opening weekend is a reflection of brand awareness and marketing efficiency.
2nd and 3rd weekend is a reflection of word of mouth and reviews. (word of mouth being reviews, again)
You're simultaneously arguing that people don't give a fuck what reviews say while arguing that what really counts is what happens when they review it.
Well you should have walked out and thrown yourself over a bridge. I bet the crowd coming in would pity you after hearing about your story.
Useless trivia time
List of major Batman films that didn't set the opening weekend record:
- Batman and Robin
- Batman Begins
- The Dark Knight Rises
- Batman v Superman
List of major Batman films that didn't crack Top 3 comic book openings of all time:
- Batman Begins
- Batman v Superman
List of major Batman films that didn't set the opening weekend record:
- Batman and Robin
- Batman Begins
- The Dark Knight Rises
- Batman v Superman
List of major Batman films that didn't crack Top 3 comic book openings of all time:
- Batman Begins
- Batman v Superman
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
But before, Lionsgate will grace you with a Four spin-off from the Divergent series as we at Lionsgate like to milk our IP's to death.
Sincerely,
Lionsgate Management
If this movie had a 90%+ on RT (and was actually amazing) then it would've cracked $200 million.
Not cool man.
So that's it, then. We're really getting Zack Snyder's Justice League in 18 months and there's nothing we can do about it.
Tbf. It all depends how much the movie cost to make. If a movie cost 2b and only made 1.5b is that a failure? It may not be in box office takings but overall?
Why do you think that professional reviewers care about the box office?
Subpar Spatula
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So that's it, then. We're really getting Zack Snyder's Justice League in 18 months and there's nothing we can do about it.
Is this a comment where the appropriate response is the jpg of angel bringing down a note that says "OK." to a man who says, "I HATE THING"?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Transformers: AOE opening weekend contributed to over 40% of its domestic box-office gross; word of mouth and less than stellar *reviews* contributed to its decline the following weeks - that's what many are speaking of: what will be BvS' hold moving forward?
What does this even mean?
I'll remember to post that next time someone complains about the MCU.
jombag
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So that's it, then. We're really getting Zack Snyder's Justice League in 18 months and there's nothing we can do about it.
Hello darkness my old friend..
Transformers: AOE also made a billion dollars on a 200 million budget. If WB makes a billion dollar on a 250 million budget plus merchandise, I think they will be happy.
This movie had over a 400 million+ budget when you include P&A.
If they gross a billion worldwide with international accounting for 60% they'd just about break even since they only get about half the box office revenue for US and about 30% internationally. Still they'll make money with merchandising, product placement, home video etc.
Still, they really wanted this to be an avengers style hit and do 1.5 billion+
thehypocrite
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Really? Isn't this guy below a critic? He's listed in that RT you all seem to like.
They already fucked up on Kick-Ass, but the Image catalog has been largely left alone.
I smell a Spawn revival in the air!
Subpar Spatula
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You do that, fam.
Shogmaster
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That BvS Metacritic user score of 7.3 is very telling about potential lack of huge impending drop IMO. Also the fact that Thursday~Friday to Saturday~Sunday saw a big BO increase.
JadedWriter
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Sadly I know this to be true and I know there are those that just went to see it because they wanted to see it for fun. I had no fun, therefore I pity them. Granted I'm well aware that there are actually a good amount of people that enjoyed the movie, so more power to them.
DC Fans ballot stuffed the user review section of every major site before the film was even in general release.
7.3 is unusually high for a metacritic score considering the fanboy war shit that usually goes on there
The B CinemaScore all but guarantees a massive drop next weekend. The CinemaScore is the best way we have to predict these things.
BvS failed upwards at the boxoffice. Not even poor trailers, poor reception and mixed (at best) word of mouth can defeat the morbid curiosity of such a match-up.
But now that itch has been scratched, and this movie offers nothing outside of its marketing-propelled gimmick. Next weekend is going to be some shit.
But now that itch has been scratched, and this movie offers nothing outside of its marketing-propelled gimmick. Next weekend is going to be some shit.
gundamkyoukai
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Good start but we have to see how the legs going to be .
Dash_Riprock
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They did. The film grossed over $300 million in China, that's what saved it. BvS is currently doing comparable numbers to Ant-Man over there.
Bobby Roberts
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So you pulled one guy? And him framing his negative review as "hopefully people turn their back on bad filmmaking" is somehow out of bounds for a critic to say/think? You seriously think he's crying in the corner somewhere because that isnt' happening?
"That RT you all seem to like" is just stupid, too. You don't even know who you're addressing with that. You're just shooting shit off.
The haters here are like the same ones that shit in every Pacific Rim thread. You just can't let others enjoy something or let something have success when your personal opinion needs to Trump all. Gets so annoying and old. Opinions are fine, but the hyperbole and hate expressed is just shit.
JadedWriter - "I had no fun, therefore I pity them."
I don't even have to search far for something. Really? Pity people that may have actually enjoyed something? Really? Gawddamn.
JadedWriter - "I had no fun, therefore I pity them."
I don't even have to search far for something. Really? Pity people that may have actually enjoyed something? Really? Gawddamn.
Scientist Supreme!
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Why are you so upset that people didn't like this movie?
Grow up.
JadedWriter
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Well that's probably escalating criticism of this movie far beyond what is warranted. I said that cause I was pretty sure they wouldn't enjoy the movie, not because I thought myself better than them.
Smokey_Run
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Your hate fuels Snyder. Snyder is batting almost 1.000 at pissing people off right now. Therefore, 45% drop next weekend confirmed.
Hasn't it been shown that CinemaScore means just about dick? I'm asking seriously here.
JadedWriter
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Would it actually surprise you that I like Pacific Rim?
Well, telling someone to go kill themself because of Batman v Superman is sure an escalation.
What does any of this have to do with box office number discussion?
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