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So you pulled one guy? And him framing his negative review as "hopefully people turn their back on bad filmmaking" is somehow out of bounds for a critic to say/think? You seriously think he's crying in the corner somewhere because that isnt' happening?

"That RT you all seem to like" is just stupid, too. You don't even know who you're addressing with that. You're just shooting shit off.

You said they didn't care, and they obviously do. I remembered his so I wasn't even scraping for this type of reference. But I proved they do.

Plus the only thing obviously stupid here is your rhetoric when being proven objectively wrong with facts.

And yes, RT is quite popular with you and others, which can also be factually proven by the length and the amount of post that thread on BvS score has and how many belong to you.
 
Would it actually surprise you that I like Pacific Rim?
Nothing surprises me anymore. My issue is with the pity comment and I could have picked other peoples comments in this thread, so don't take too much offense that I picked yours. It was just right there.

When it comes to entertainment, I feel it is best to let people enjoy what they enjoy. I don't enjoy Adam Sandler or his movies, but there are those that do, let them have their fun. Doesn't hurt anyone and just makes some people really rich in the end.
 
Hasn't it been shown that CinemaScore means just about dick? I'm asking seriously here.

Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.
 
You said they didn't care, and they obviously do.

No, I said they're not crying in a corner somewhere. Because they're not. It was a stupid thing to say.

Luckily there are people here talking about flinging themselves off tall structures in response to the film, so the ridiculousness of your whole line of discussion is being overshadowed.

And yes, RT is quite popular with you and others, which can also be factually proven by the length and the amount of post that thread on BvS score has and how many belong to you.

RT is not quite popular with me. That thread is huge for reasons that have not much at all to do with the actual RT score, or even the reviews contained within it. And if you want to check post histories, I'm certain you can dig up more than a few posts of mine that argue against the way people hang on (and misuse) that site to formulate their messageboard arguments.
 
The haters here are like the same ones that shit in every Pacific Rim thread. You just can't let others enjoy something or let something have success when your personal opinion needs to Trump all. Gets so annoying and old. Opinions are fine, but the hyperbole and hate expressed is just shit.

JadedWriter - "I had no fun, therefore I pity them."

I don't even have to search far for something. Really? Pity people that may have actually enjoyed something? Really? Gawddamn.

Stopped reading when haters came up.
 
So you pulled one guy? And him framing his negative review as "hopefully people turn their back on bad filmmaking" is somehow out of bounds for a critic to say/think? You seriously think he's crying in the corner somewhere because that isnt' happening?

"That RT you all seem to like" is just stupid, too. You don't even know who you're addressing with that. You're just shooting shit off.

Exactly. I'm always amused by people who seem to imagine that anyone who doesn't care for a popular film is the equivalent is Yosemite Sam shaking his fists in the air after Bugs Bunny pulls one over on them. Like they're somehow acting as a crusader for "uppity critics" who just don't "get" mass entertainment.

BvS was always going to have a pretty stellar opening weekend. If this film opened to a middling BO reception, it'd probably be symptomatic of a larger waning interest in superhero blockbusters more than it'd have anything to do with how the critics felt about it.

No, I said they're not crying in a corner somewhere. Because they're not. It was a stupid thing to say.

Don't bother with him. He was the same dude in another BvS thread calling anyone that wasn't as enthusiastic about Zack Snyder's body of work as he was, a hater.
 
Worldwide Updates:

Deadpool - $746M - New WW record for a film that carried the MPAA R rating. Less than $2M to go before it beats DOFP.

The Revenant - $506M

Kung Fu Panda 3 - $432M
 
Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.

Age of Ultron got an A? Bahahahahaha

Edit: TDKR too? What in the fuck.
 
Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.

Alot of these movies are really good except a few.
 
Nothing surprises me anymore. My issue is with the pity comment and I could have picked other peoples comments in this thread, so don't take too much offense that I picked yours. It was just right there.

When it comes to entertainment, I feel it is best to let people enjoy what they enjoy. I don't enjoy Adam Sandler or his movies, but there are those that do, let them have their fun. Doesn't hurt anyone and just makes some people really rich in the end.
I didn't even say it to them directly. I was done with the movie, annoyed from it cause it could've been good, it just wasn't...to me. These were people that paid money for this movie hoping to have a good time and I was quite sure the tone of the movie would just depress them. I liked parts of it don't get me wrong, but man... And Adam Sandler at least has Punch Drunk Love.
 
No, I said they're not crying in a corner somewhere. Because they're not. It was a stupid thing to say.

Oh my, so now I can't make an allegory to the critics being displeased with it with some hyperbolic statement? Get over yourself cause you clearly understood what I meant.

You love throwing the word stupid around while acting as dense as a rock.
 
Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.


Shit. BvS got a lower score than AOE? Bruh
 
Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.

I guess Zack is about to break new ground, friends.

EDIT - Transformers 4 got an A-?!

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Oh my, so now I can't make an allegory to the critics being displeased with it with some hyperbolic statement? Get over yourself cause you clearly understood what I meant.

You love throwing the word stupid around while acting as dense as a rock.

You really should just go back to DC community echo chamber.

Less stress for you.
 
Avatar - A
Titanic - A+
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - A
Jurassic World - A
The Avengers - A+
Furious 7 - A
Avengers: Age of Ultron - A
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - A
Frozen - A+
Iron Man 3 - A
Minions - A
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - A
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - A+
Skyfall - A
Transformers: Age of Extinction - A-
The Dark Knight Rises - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A-
Toy Story 3 - A
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - B+
Jurassic Park - A
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace - A-
Alice in Wonderland - A-
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - A
The Dark Knight - A

Those are the cinemascores for every movie that has made over a billion at the box office.

Wow even Phantom Menance got an A.

It's actually impressive BvS received a B with this competition. It seems like you actually have to try to get below an A.
 
I think word of mouth on BvS is going to be pretty decent.

Everyone that I know who saw it thought it was pretty good. I think expectations were so low especially after reviews hit, but most people seem pretty ok with it.

I'll probably catch a second matinee next week.
 
Cinemascores are basically good for laughs. All three Star Wars prequels got an A-. Inception got a B+
I think any movie with an inconclusive ending is automatically going to get lowered a notch in the Cinemascore like Inception, just how audience reactions work.
 
Worldwide Updates:

Deadpool - $746M - New WW record for a film that carried the MPAA R rating. Less than $2M to go before it beats DOFP.

The Revenant - $506M

Kung Fu Panda 3 - $432M

KFP 3 not doing much more is a travesty. This franchise has the one of if not the most consistent great movies in a trilogy.
 
As far as I'm aware CinemaScore has nothing to do with critical ratings, but rather to do with audience reception.

A movie could get trashed by critics but still have a high CinemaScore if its viewers generally enjoyed it.

Cinamascore also has to do with getting your target audience to the theaters. BvS got a lot more hate watching this weekend than say Transformers AoE ever would have pulled because most people who wanted to hate that one had long stopped hate watching Transformers movies.
 
Oh my, so now I can't make an allegory to the critics being displeased with it with some hyperbolic statement? Get over yourself cause you clearly understood what I meant.

Why would I need to "get over myself" when pointing out you said something dumb causes this sort of reaction in you?

Here's the thing: I understand what you mean, which is why I can fuck with it like I'm doing. There's no misunderstanding here: You're setting up a narrative in which there's a group of people both on the film critic side of things, and on the fan side of things, who have a lot personally invested in the film not doing well at the box office, and then reacting poorly and in a spiteful, hateful manner at their efforts being thwarted.

This is a fantasy scenario. It's a bullshit appeal to populism that carries almost no weight, and has not much basis in reality outside of very tiny, very outlandish minority examples from people who have more or less substituted the sort of rooting mentality you find in sports for pop-culture concerns.

You're attempting to suggest there are large, large groups of people who are throwing a tantrum at their false intellectual/aesthetic superiority being flouted thoroughly and rudely by a populace who cares nothing for their pretensions towards artistic fulfillment. You're putting forward a tired fantasy scenario in which the will of the people will always triumph over the cultural gatekeepers who swear they know best and are almost always wrong and are nursing their thumbs like Prince John in Disney's Robin Hood.

It's not happening, though. That's not a thing that's happening.

The box-office has almost nothing to do with critical consensus on opening weekend. Hasn't for a very long time now. Pretty much everyone knows it.
 
RT is not quite popular with me. That thread is huge for reasons that have not much at all to do with the actual RT score, or even the reviews contained within it. And if you want to check post histories, I'm certain you can dig up more than a few posts of mine that argue against the way people hang on (and misuse) that site to formulate their messageboard arguments.

I'm sure your theories about the toxicity of the RT score and BO returns brought about sanity inside the madhouse of that thread instead of piling on more inane thoughts.
 
They did. The film grossed over $300 million in China, that's what saved it. BvS is currently doing comparable numbers to Ant-Man over there.

Dark of the Moon made half that in China and it pulled in more than Age of Extinction.
 
All four Chimpmunks films had equal or better cinemascores than Mad Max Fury Road (the first 3 had better scores).

That makes sense. I've yet to meet kids who didn't love Chimpmunks I've talked to a number of older adults who didn't like Mad Max at all.
 
Why would I need to "get over myself" when pointing out you said something dumb causes this sort of reaction in you?

Here's the thing: I understand what you mean, which is why I can fuck with it like I'm doing. There's no misunderstanding here: You're setting up a narrative in which there's a group of people both on the film critic side of things, and on the fan side of things, who have a lot personally invested in the film not doing well at the box office, and then reacting poorly and in a spiteful, hateful manner at their efforts being thwarted.

This is a fantasy scenario. It's a bullshit appeal to populism that carries almost no weight, and has not much basis in reality outside of very tiny, very outlandish minority examples from people who have more or less substituted the sort of rooting mentality you find in sports for pop-culture concerns.

You're attempting to suggest there are large, large groups of people who are throwing a tantrum at their false intellectual/aesthetic superiority being flouted thoroughly and rudely by a populace who cares nothing for their pretensions towards artistic fulfillment. You're putting forward a tired fantasy scenario in which the will of the people will always triumph over the cultural gatekeepers who swear they know best and are almost always wrong and are nursing their thumbs like Prince John in Disney's Robin Hood.

It's not happening, though. That's not a thing that's happening.

The box-office has almost nothing to do with critical consensus on opening weekend. Hasn't for a very long time now. Pretty much everyone knows it.

Critics are generally self absorbed assholes that tend to think that they are in fact tastemakers for those whose opinion actually matters. That said, this movie doing well probably plays more into the narrative that they have good taste and the people do not, which cements their self importance of discerning that which is good for the rest of us.

That's a pretty broad brushstroke and there are certainly critics that deviate from this, but having spent a lot of time with professional music journalists, they are mostly fucks who like to bitch about pop music while cutting themselves to whatever Sufjan Stevens wrote about a dying parent.

Edit: I should mention that I *like* Sufjan Stevens. But critics have no or little appreciation for the fact that you probably don't want to belt his music out loud while driving home from a shitty day at work.
 
That's a pretty broad brushstroke and there are certainly critics that deviate from this, but having spent a lot of time with professional music journalists, they are mostly fucks who like to bitch about pop music while cutting themselves to whatever Sufjan Stevens wrote about a dying parent.

Oh god, music critics are a different breed of beast indeed.
 
Why would I need to "get over myself" when pointing out you said something dumb causes this sort of reaction in you?

Here's the thing: I understand what you mean, which is why I can fuck with it like I'm doing. There's no misunderstanding here: You're setting up a narrative in which there's a group of people both on the film critic side of things, and on the fan side of things, who have a lot personally invested in the film not doing well at the box office, and then reacting poorly and in a spiteful, hateful manner at their efforts being thwarted.

This is a fantasy scenario. It's a bullshit appeal to populism that carries almost no weight, and has not much basis in reality outside of very tiny, very outlandish minority examples from people who have more or less substituted the sort of rooting mentality you find in sports for pop-culture concerns.

You're attempting to suggest there are large, large groups of people who are throwing a tantrum at their false intellectual/aesthetic superiority being flouted thoroughly and rudely by a populace who cares nothing for their pretensions towards artistic fulfillment. You're putting forward a tired fantasy scenario in which the will of the people will always triumph over the cultural gatekeepers who swear they know best and are almost always wrong and are nursing their thumbs like Prince John in Disney's Robin Hood.

It's not happening, though. That's not a thing that's happening.

The box-office has almost nothing to do with critical consensus on opening weekend. Hasn't for a very long time now. Pretty much everyone knows it.

So you undestood and in an attempt to present superiority presented that post? Yes. I knew that, which is the reason why I claimed to stop smelling your farts and getting high on it.

I do concede in my original post the importance & the relevance of the overly pompous elitist which you called cultural gatekeepers. My point here is that the movie industry has become an intellectual properties driven & focused industry and as a by product of that, meaning that it isn't focused on the new but on the known & familiar, the cultural gatekeepers influences are void cause there's no gate keeping out these characters.


Now, in regards to your populism diatribe, I couldn't care less and it isn't part of my point. So keep thinking whatever you want in that regard.
 
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