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[3N16MA]

Fuck em, they killed Tron.

I'm surprised Bronson is willing to give Disney any money after they killed it.

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm surprised Bronson is willing to give Disney any money after they killed it.

I DON'T

If I don't get into an advance screening I'll buy a ticket to another movie and then sneak into the Disney movie instead because MY HEART BURNS FOR THE GRID

 

[Slayven]

TMNT 2014 was a trainwreck that I saw on a date too. At least she liked it.

You see how Bobby just posted about Kong that "all the elements of the film fail out"?

They should put that on the boxart for The Circle.

The concepts in the Circle are about 20 years too late. It is like that Zac Effron movie about EDM that came out like 2 years ago.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Fuck em, they killed Tron.

No they didn't. Apathetic audiences did.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

All I know is the book Everything, Everything has been selling a shit ton lately where I work so there seems to be some demand for these sick / illness stories

Another bookseller huh? Yeah, there is a surge for it lately.

 

[Infinite Stars]

I mean, I'm fully expecting Depp to be gone from Pirates following this(If we get a 6th movie). They've billed it as "The final adventure of Captain Jack Sparrow" and his fees/other studio commitments makes it easy to drop him. Plus, Sparrow is to Pirates what Han Solo is to Star Wars IMO.

 

[Bronx-Man]

No they didn't. Apathetic audiences did.

 

[Prompto]

No they didn't. Apathetic audiences did.

I blame Tomorrowland.

Damn you Brad Bird!

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

I remember seeing Tron: Legacy on my birthday and being the only one of my friends who hated it.

It's a bore, Bronx-Man, a BORE

 

[Ridley327]

I am surprise Hollywood is still on the "Teen love story where someone dies at the end" kick, do they make money?

I think it's less that they're big earners and more that they're so cheap that it's really difficult for them to lose money even if they under-perform.

 

[BronsonLee]

Tomorrowland being shit and nobody liking it killed Tron

That's what happens when you make a movie about a future city with 2 people in it and George Clooney being a pedo in said film

Bonus points for having a 12 year old girl get run over with a truck with no cuts for absolutely no reason

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Disney in general is keeping the box office afloat — as of Friday, the studio became the first to have earned over $1 billion in 2017, reaching the milestone in near record time. The only time a studio has earned so much so quickly was Disney last year.

 

[cw_sasuke]

POTC is still an international juggernaut

Domestic: $62,179,000 23.0%
+ Foreign: $208,400,000 77.0%
= Worldwide: $270,579,000

Eh...its 2017 - thats not what i would describe as a juggernaut. Especially not for a Disney film.

 

[Bronx-Man]

I remember seeing Tron: Legacy on my birthday and being the only one of my friends who hated it.

It's a bore, Bronx-Man, a BORE

It's a visually thrilling experience with a fantastic score to boot!

 

[Buckle]

Disney needs to know we want more female led super hero movies and less anything with Depp.

This.

Hope WW flattens Pirates like a steam roller.

 

[shintoki]

It's a visually thrilling experience with a fantastic score to boot!

Shame about anything to do with plot or characters being shite.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

OH then that's ok

What's the worst movie everyone's seen as a date? I had to sit through Sucker Punch AND The Great Wall because of dates and goddamnit

The Number 23. Went to two different Alamo Drafthouse locations to see Zodiac, was sold out everywhere. Amazing Spider-Man might be another contender. I was bored outta my mind. I got up 45 minutes into the movie and went out into the mall to stretch my legs for a few minutes.

Oh oh oh, maybe Jurassic World. The movie was meh but some dudes gave it a standing ovation when the credits came up and me and my date looked at each other like "Seriously?" lol

 

[Slayven]

Tomorrowland being shit and nobody liking it killed Tron

That's what happens when you make a movie about a future city with 2 people in it and George Clooney being a pedo in said film

Bonus points for having a 12 year old girl get run over with a truck with no cuts for absolutely no reason

Damn did the movie shoot your dog?

 

[Ridley327]

Tomorrowland being shit and nobody liking it killed Tron

That's what happens when you make a movie about a future city with 2 people in it and George Clooney being a pedo in said film

Bonus points for having a 12 year old girl get run over with a truck with no cuts for absolutely no reason

That movie is the most savagely gruesome family film in recent memory. I have no idea how the hell that got a PG rating.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Now you guys making me wanna watch Tomorrowland.

 

[BronsonLee]

Damn did the movie shoot your dog?

Dude I'm not even lying, those are all plot points in the film

That movie is the most savagely gruesome family film in recent memory. I have no idea how the hell that got a PG rating.

Yeah I remember people getting bisected and all that jazz

Bird fucked up, keep him in Director Jail

Now you guys making me wanna watch Tomorrowland.

Oh my god Kenzo no, I'm trying to protect you

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Tomorrowland being shit and nobody liking it killed Tron

That's what happens when you make a movie about a future city with 2 people in it and George Clooney being a pedo in said film

Bonus points for having a 12 year old girl get run over with a truck with no cuts for absolutely no reason

You left out the bullshit Objectivist-themes that rubbed everyone who isn't a jackass the wrong way...

 

[shintoki]

OH then that's ok

What's the worst movie everyone's seen as a date? I had to sit through Sucker Punch AND The Great Wall because of dates and goddamnit

Hellboy 2.

Hard to pick a lazier attempt at making a flick then that.

Scene 1. Hellboy as a kid being told this fairy tale about the unstoppable army and golden crown, where the only one who wears it can control it it. Followed by being broken into 3 pieces.

Scene 2. Elf Fu, Linked connected with sister, killing father.

Well, it's safe to check out. They spoiled every single beat the movie is going for. Might as well throw in a drunk scene to..... wait they did.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Thinking about it... all things considered, Alien: Covenant had just about the worst second weekend drop for a major blockbuster that I can think of. 71% drop on a holiday weekend when the openers disappointed is not only bad, it's historic

edit: BOM mentions this

This is the second largest second weekend drop for a film playing in over 3,700 theaters and considering the largest drop within that group is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which opened with over $169 million, it's hardly comparing apples-to-apples.This is the second largest second weekend drop for a film playing in over 3,700 theaters and considering the largest drop within that group is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2, which opened with over $169 million, it's hardly comparing apples-to-apples.

It's a visually thrilling experience with a fantastic score to boot!

So visually thrilling that they made Olivia Wilde not sexy.

I'm still waiting for an explanation on that one.

 

[CaviarMeths]

The Number 23. Went to two different Alamo Drafthouse locations to see Zodiac, was sold out everywhere. Amazing Spider-Man might be another contender. I was bored outta my mind. I got up 45 minutes into the movie and went out into the mall to stretch my legs for a few minutes.

23 was going to be my answer too. What the hell was that shit?

 

[ZeoVGM]

Disney needs to know we want more female led super hero movies and less anything with Depp.

I would like more female led super hero movies and more Pirates movies so let's not throw out the word "we" there.

 

[shintoki]

Thinking about it... all things considered, Alien: Covenant had just about the worst second weekend drop for a major blockbuster that I can think of. 71% drop on a holiday weekend when the openers disappointed is not only bad, it's historic

Scott said he'll blow, we just need to do the fingering.

 

[Beefy]

Now you guys making me wanna watch Tomorrowland.

Don't do it to yourself man

 

[BronsonLee]

Bobby has Skull Island
I have Tomorrowland

 

[CaviarMeths]

After Speed Racer, nobody should trust GAF bomba film recommendations.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Per Deadline, we may be seeing a push from Hollywood to change the way critic reviews are distributed, especially in regards to rotten tomatoes

In the case of Pirates 5, I hear that the movie had the highest test scores in the history of the series. Once audiences get into the movie, they seem to be enjoying it with an A- CinemaScore, higher than the B+ of On Stranger Tides and in line with the second title Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End, and an 82% positive score. The franchise is still fresh abroad, and given its glorious overseas opening, the movie will certainly be profitable for Disney with an anticipated final global haul of $800M-$900M.

Meanwhile, Baywatch tested over a 91 three times. In all fairness to Disney, the stakes were higher here for Paramount: It needed a home run to start the summer but came in 48% below tracking. Pirates 5 was only $5M off the low end of the $80M Disney was expecting this weekend.

Insiders close to both films blame Rotten Tomatoes, with Pirates 5 and Baywatch respectively earning 32% and 19% Rotten. The critic aggregation site increasingly is slowing down the potential business of popcorn movies. Pirates 5 and Baywatch aren’t built for critics but rather general audiences, and once upon a time these types of films — a family adventure and a raunchy R-rated comedy — were critic-proof. Many of those in the industry severely question how Rotten Tomatoes computes the its ratings, and the fact that these scores run on Fandango (which owns RT) is an even bigger problem.

tl;dr Hollywood will once again learn all the wrong things from this weekend.

 

[broncobuster]

Is Tron Legacy still the movie they play at Best Buys when you look at TVs?

 

[cartographer]

Tomorrowland is better than Tron Legacy.

Spoiler

Do I actually believe this? Does it matter?

 

[BronsonLee]

Rotten Tomatoes is garbage anyways

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Per Deadline, we may be seeing a push from Hollywood to change the way critic reviews are distributed, especially in regards to rotten tomatoes



tl;dr Hollywood will once again learn all the wrong things from this weekend.

How about instead of bitching about critics doing their jobs you just, oh I don't know, make better films? And WoM does a far better job of killing a film's BO than any critic. What's Hollywood gonna do? Make opening weekend audiences sign a NDA?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

BELIEVE!

 

[jett]

Tomorrowland is better than Tron Legacy.

Spoiler

Do I actually believe this? Does it matter?

Tron Legacy has a Daft Punk soundtrack.

That's literally all it has going for itself, but it's more than Tomorrowland.

 

[cartographer]

Tron Legacy has a Daft Punk soundtrack.

That's literally all it has going for itself, but it's more than Tomorrowland.

Tomorrowland is part of the Clooneyverse.

 

[shintoki]

How about instead of bitching about critics doing their jobs you just, oh I don't know, make better films? And WoM does a far better job of killing a film's BO than any critic. What's Hollywood gonna do? Make opening weekend audiences sign a NDA?

No, bad reviews is the issue. Not that good reviews and WoM seem to typically go hand and hand with each other.

 

[Toa TAK]

Tron Legacy has a Daft Punk soundtrack.

That's literally all it has going for itself, but it's more than Tomorrowland.

This is alllllll true. I don't get the Tron love.

 

[CaviarMeths]

No, bad reviews is the issue. Not that good reviews and WoM seem to typically go hand and hand with each other.

Audiences aren't even willing to admit that they agree with critics more often than they don't. Why would Hollywood execs admit it when their shitty movie loses then a hundred million dollars?

 

[xaosslug]

ww chart added

 

[Smokey_Run]

Per Deadline, we may be seeing a push from Hollywood to change the way critic reviews are distributed, especially in regards to rotten tomatoes



tl;dr Hollywood will once again learn all the wrong things from this weekend.

Seriously..

Many of those in the industry severely question how Rotten Tomatoes computes the its ratings

I know math is hard for a lot of Hollywood studios, but come on. It's not hard. Fresh reviews/Total reviews. Maybe I should send some resumes out.

 

[Boke1879]

Audiences aren't even willing to admit that they agree with critics more often than they don't. Why would Hollywood execs admit it when their shitty movie loses then a hundred million dollars?

I don't have an issue with reviews. But I do have an issue with people who parrot around RT scores like it's the be all end all.

I literally saw some get upset that GotG2 is at an 81 on RT. Like it's a good movie what in the world is there to be mad about?

 

[Slayven]

Do general publics care that much about ratings?

 

[Boke1879]

Do general publics care that much about ratings?

That I don't know, but I know I saw a few movies advertising their RT score.

I think with social media it's more so a thing.

 

[gamz]

I don't have an issue with reviews. But I do have an issue with people who parrot around RT scores like it's the be all end all.

I literally saw some get upset that GotG2 is at an 81 on RT. Like it's a good movie what in the world is there to be mad about?

Agreed. It's very weird to me. It's the same with meta scores on games.

 

[riotous]

Do general publics care that much about ratings?

They are more visible than ever before; 10-15 years ago most people had no clue how well a movie was reviewing. Now it's highly visible on the internet, often listed right where they might be buying their tickets (Fandango.com.)

To say the general public doesn't care about reviews, IMO, is an out dated adage. People in general are affected by how something is scored; highly rated stuff gets a confirmation bias, low rated stuff gets ignored. The reasons audiences "didn't care" in the past was probably more to do with the fact they never saw a review, because they didn't open that section of their newspaper.

Word of mouth is also more visible; but IMO, word of mouth is affected by reviews as well. Everything on the internet is like a slippery slope these days; "what's the popular opinion of thing? I want to make sure my opinion matches"

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Do general publics care that much about ratings?

I think will some movies, especially franchises, people don't care.

I do think it really helped Get Out on OW, though. When I saw it I heard 2 people explicitly talk about how crazy that 99% RT score was.

 

[Smokey_Run]

Do general publics care that much about ratings?

Anecdotally, yes. I know within personal circles, review score citing, especially RT, has risen in the past year or two.