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[PhoncipleBone]

So, how much of the next BO thread will be the non regulars coming in calling Rogue One a bomb since it made a lot less than TFA?

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

So, how much of the next BO thread will be the non regulars coming in calling Rogue One a bomb since it made a lot less than TFA?

Wait until the weekend after when Christmas Eve tanks the box office.

 

[kswiston]

So, how much of the next BO thread will be the non regulars coming in calling Rogue One a bomb since it made a lot less than TFA?

There seems to be less box office interest this year in general outside of BvS taking over GAF for a week. So who knows.

 

[vinnygambini]

So, how much of the next BO thread will be the non regulars coming in calling Rogue One a bomb since it made a lot less than TFA?

I'll make the thread with a bomba header. It'll attract them!

Spoiler

It worked for last year until the thread was closed lol

 

[3N16MA]

So, how much of the next BO thread will be the non regulars coming in calling Rogue One a bomb since it made a lot less than TFA?

It already bombed. Suicide Squad level bomb.

 

[kswiston]

It already bombed. Suicide Squad level bomb.

The big "what went wrong?" Posts will come if Rogue One isnt at least Disney's second biggest film worldwide this year. Can you imagine a scenario where Star Wars ends up under Zootopia?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

The big "what went wrong?" Posts will come if Rogue One isnt at least Disney's second biggest film worldwide this year. Can you imagine a scenario where Star Wars ends up under Zootopia?

Disney going third party!

 

[3N16MA]

The big "what went wrong?" Posts will come if Rogue One isnt at least Disney's second biggest film worldwide this year. Can you imagine a scenario where Star Wars ends up under Zootopia?

Kids film with talking animals beats Star Wars! Disney is doomed! They should scrap the spin-offs!

Actually Dory beats is DOM and Zootopia beats in WW just for kicks.

 

[Schlorgan]

Did you guys know that Rogue One needs to make at least $900m ww to even be profitable?

 

[Caode]

Did you guys know that Rogue One needs to make at least $900m ww to even be profitable?

That won't even cover the reshoots.

 

[3N16MA]

Did you guys know that Rogue One needs to make at least $900m ww to even be profitable?

There was plenty of reshoots. We all know the SS reshoots doomed that film and they needed 700M to break even.

 

[PhantomX1313]

Whattahell Rogue one now in 60% intl. market and ownnly 33M maybe it just need 10 bajillion to break even

 

[DeathyBoy]

There was plenty of reshoots. We all know the SS reshoots doomed that film and they needed 700M to break even.

SS hasn't even covered per diem costs yet according to my sources

 

[BumRush]

The last ten posts have been great...and unfortunately too true. Shit posting commences in a few days

 

[CaviarMeths]

We won't get any update on Rogue Two for a couple years, and then it'll be quietly removed from Disney's release schedule. Gareth Edwards gonna do the Flash movie after the fallout with Disney.

 

[kswiston]

Deadline is saying high 60s for Friday including previews. They have the weekend at $140-145M currently.

 

[Schlorgan]

There's gonna be a huge shakeup in Lucasfilm executives after this movie tanks followed by a big push for more light hearted movies.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

There seems to be less box office interest this year

My bad.

There's gonna be a huge shakeup in Lucasfilm executives after this movie tanks followed by a big push for more light hearted movies.

This is like, the hardest thread to determine the successful employment of sarcasm.

 

[MHWilliams]

I do wonder what Lucasfilm will do beyond the new trilogy and the Han Solo films.

1. Ep 7
2. Rogue One
3. Ep. 8
4. Han Solo
5. Ep. 9

Then what? Do you do another semi-connected, alt genre story or another flashback films with a big named character? What does Disney do after Episode 9? Another trilogy in another era, or continue to mine Rey/Finn/Poe like Disney has mined Jack Sparrow?

That's what I want to know.

 

[Schlorgan]

I do wonder what Lucasfilm will do beyond the new trilogy and the Han Solo films.

1. Ep 7
2. Rogue One
3. Ep. 8
4. Han Solo
5. Ep. 9

Then what? Do you do another semi-connected, alt genre story or another flashback films with a big named character? What does Disney do after Episode 9? Another trilogy in another era, or continue to mine Rey/Finn/Poe like Disney has mined Jack Sparrow?

That's what I want to know.

Easy. Remake 1-3. :3

This is like, the hardest thread to determine the successful employment of sarcasm.

Thank you. I think.

 

[Sean C]

Then what? Do you do another semi-connected, alt genre story or another flashback films with a big named character? What does Disney do after Episode 9? Another trilogy in another era, or continue to mine Rey/Finn/Poe like Disney has mined Jack Sparrow?

That's what I want to know.

Assuming Rey and co. are still alive at the end of Episode 9, I cannot imagine them being left on the shelf permanently, unless the actors are tired of the parts.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Then what? Do you do another semi-connected, alt genre story or another flashback films with a big named character? What does Disney do after Episode 9? Another trilogy in another era, or continue to mine Rey/Finn/Poe like Disney has mined Jack Sparrow?

That's what I want to know.

They'll probably run 4 or 5 years of spinoffs that end up being interconnected (Marvel style) and then MAYBE 10-12 in the mainline saga after that break.

But I really do think that around the 60th or 65th anniversary, they're going to reboot the whole fuckin' thing. ALL of it.

Thank you. I try.

were you joking or not

 

[vinnygambini]

I do wonder what Lucasfilm will do beyond the new trilogy and the Han Solo films.

1. Ep 7
2. Rogue One
3. Ep. 8
4. Han Solo
5. Ep. 9

Then what? Do you do another semi-connected, alt genre story or another flashback films with a big named character? What does Disney do after Episode 9? Another trilogy in another era, or continue to mine Rey/Finn/Poe like Disney has mined Jack Sparrow?

That's what I want to know.

Guardians of the Galaxy & Star Wars team-up

 

[Rhaknar]

Strange has almost 650mill worldwide? Is that good for a Marvel origin movie that isnt Cap or Ironman? I honestly cant tell anymore with the superhero movies, it seems that if they don make 1 billion its a flop on the internet

 

[Sean C]

Strange has almost 650mill worldwide? Is that good for a Marvel origin movie that isnt Cap or Ironman?

It's a good performance.

 

[guek]

Guardians of the Galaxy & Star Wars team-up

Rocket gives R2 a railgun, C3PO and Groot talk to each other the whole movie, and Drax gets into a fight with Chewie

 

[Scorpion Soldier]

Strange has almost 650mill worldwide? Is that good for a Marvel origin movie that isnt Cap or Ironman? I honestly cant tell anymore with the superhero movies, it seems that if they don make 1 billion its a flop on the internet

Yes, it is. It's the second highest-grossing origin story behind Guardians of the Galaxy (Worldwide, mind you, though might want to adjust for inflation.)

 

[MHWilliams]

They'll probably run 4 or 5 years of spinoffs that end up being interconnected (Marvel style) and then MAYBE 10-12 in the mainline saga after that break.

Honestly, a good half decade of films in the same era, semi-connected? Could be damned good.

But I really do think that around the 60th or 65th anniversary, they're going to reboot the whole fuckin' thing. ALL of it.

Well yeah. That's 20+ years away though.

 

[vinnygambini]

Disney-Lucasfilm’s “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” is dominating the domestic box with a huge $140 million opening weekend coming into view, early estimates showed Friday.

Disney issued a range of $135 million to $140 million, noting that weather continues to be an unknown factor in some parts of the country.

Side note, Collateral Beauty is a flop, quelle surprise.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/box-ofice-rogue-one-star-wars-opening-weekend-1201944276/

 

[kswiston]

My bad.

We determined that Tarzan making $125M domestic instead if earning its predicted bomb of the year status drove you into hiding.

This is like, the hardest thread to determine the successful employment of sarcasm.

Most of it now was joking, but we had about a month or so of people claiming that $175-200M budgeted films that made less than $750M worldwide were money losers.

 

[Slayven]

Bobby Roberts has return??

He must realized Bronsonlee has become too powerful and must be stopped

 

[Bobby Roberts]

We determined that Tarzan making $125M domestic instead if earning its predicted bomb of the year status drove you into hiding.

I drastically underestimated the power of abs. Which was dumb of me.

Because those were some fucking pristine abs.

 

[kswiston]

There has been an unusual amount of vinny being right this year as well. Which I take to be the universe's way of paying him back for driving Divergent to made-for-TV films, and killing the dystopian future young adult genre.

 

[BumRush]

There has been an unusual amount of vinny being right this year as well. Which I take to be the universe's way of paying him back for driving Divergent to made-for-TV films, and killing the dystopian future young adult genre.

LOL


What was everyone's favorite film of the year?

 

[Slayven]

There has been an unusual amount of vinny being right this year as well. Which I take to be the universe's way of paying him back for driving Divergent to made-for-TV films, and killing the dystopian future young adult genre.

What about Maze Runner?

 

[GhaleonEB]

LOL


What was everyone's favorite film of the year?

Zootopia, followed by The Witch.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

What about Maze Runner?

The curse of Vinny hit Maze Runner so hard it almost killed the lead actor.

 

[Slayven]

The curse of Vinny hit Maze Runner so hard it almost killed the lead actor.

Vinny know how to work roots?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

The curse of Vinny hit Maze Runner so hard it almost killed the lead actor.

Christ. Lol.

 

[BronsonLee]

The curse of Vinny hit Maze Runner so hard it almost killed the lead actor.

Holy fuck, nooooo

 

[vinnygambini]

Y'all are murdering me! LOL

 

[Slayven]

Y'all are murdering me! LOL

Like Shailene Woodley killed the Divergent TV series?

 

[vinnygambini]

Like Shailene Woodley killed the Divergent TV series?

 

[Slayven]

Miles Teller might be down for some CW, my bad. a Divergent series would be on Crackle

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Miles Teller might be down for some CW, my bad. a Divergent series would be on Crackle

At least it isn't Freeform.

 

[Slayven]

At least it isn't Freeform.

Freeform has Pretty Little Liars

Crackle has Joe Dirt 2 as an exclusive

 

[kswiston]

LOL

What was everyone's favorite film of the year?

I haven't seen any of the year end films, but probably the Nice Guys out of the stuff I saw in theatres.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

They'll probably run 4 or 5 years of spinoffs that end up being interconnected (Marvel style) and then MAYBE 10-12 in the mainline saga after that break.

But I really do think that around the 60th or 65th anniversary, they're going to reboot the whole fuckin' thing. ALL of it.

In an ideal world, a new trilogy would start every 10 years. Build up demand and hype. Fill the gap with some spin offs and Marvel style TV shows (Netflix, Hulu, ABC, etc). My pitch would be something like:

2017 - Episode VIII
2018 - Hans Solo Anthology
2019 - Episode IX
2020 - Bobba Fett Anthology
2021 - 2028 - TV Shows and spin off movies
2029/2030 - Start of new trilogy

They will probably go for the money and release Episode X in 2021/2022 though.

Regarding your 2nd point, I'm rather curious if Disney actually CAN remake ANH without Fox's consent. Fox owns all distribution rights on that movie, and even refused to sell it back when Lucas bought the merchandise rights back. Fox is apparently not even willing to negotiate selling back the movie rights of a dead franchise like FF, so I can only imagine the exorbitant price they would ask for ANH remake.

 

[Maximo]

There's gonna be a huge shakeup in Lucasfilm executives after this movie tanks followed by a big push for more light hearted movies.

More light hearted then Rogue One?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Regarding your 2nd point, I'm rather curious if Disney actually CAN remake ANH without Fox's consent. Fox owns all distribution rights on that movie, and even refused to sell it back when Lucas bought the merchandise rights back. Fox is apparently not even willing to negotiate selling back the movie rights of a dead franchise like FF, so I can only imagine the exorbitant price they would ask for ANH remake.

Bolded the relevant. Distributions rights aren't content rights. Distribution rights means if they wanna put the film out on home video again, they have to get permission from/cut in Disney, and if Disney wants to release it on blu-ray or digital again, they gotta cut a deal with Fox.

But Disney can do whatever they want with the content. It's theirs. They can special edition again, they can remaster, they can revert back to the original, whatever they wanna do. It's only when they want to distribute it that Fox has to get their cut. Fox can't tell them what they can or can't do with their movie. They just get to release it.

Distribution rights aren't the same as content rights. Lucasfilm belongs to Disney. The film belongs to Lucasfilm.

If anything, Lucasfilm deciding to reboot the entire series allows them to completely sidestep Fox. You don't have to make a deal to sell Star Wars through them anymore when you've got your own Star Wars now.