Thank you for this, haha.
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Wkd Box Office 0101-0316 - Hate flows through BO as TFA eyes all-time DOM record
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Thank you for this, haha.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Hell, I think it's very possible Rogue One will do better than The Force Awakens overseas.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
sadly I tried asking people about it today, felt like I was annoying them 
Hey anyone at work talk about star wars today? (stares at me) eh, well anyone? continue to stare at me (take that as a no)
friend 2
hey you want to see star wars (yes, baby) did you see the old ones? (no)
Did you see any advertising for it at all (no) ok.
friend 3
Hey you know star wars? (yes, my husband is a manager at a plan that makes toys) oh great, so he saw the movie? (yes) are you going to go see it (no) ah, ok.
student
Hey did you know the new star wars will be here next week (nope) ok
student 2
hey you going to go see star wars next weke (no) do you know what star wars is? (no) ok back to talking about soccer
This is how it always goes for me, might as well stick to neogaf.
Hey anyone at work talk about star wars today? (stares at me) eh, well anyone? continue to stare at me (take that as a no)
friend 2
hey you want to see star wars (yes, baby) did you see the old ones? (no)
Did you see any advertising for it at all (no) ok.
friend 3
Hey you know star wars? (yes, my husband is a manager at a plan that makes toys) oh great, so he saw the movie? (yes) are you going to go see it (no) ah, ok.
student
Hey did you know the new star wars will be here next week (nope) ok
student 2
hey you going to go see star wars next weke (no) do you know what star wars is? (no) ok back to talking about soccer
This is how it always goes for me, might as well stick to neogaf.
Episode VIII confirmed to be destroyed by Thor Ragnarok? Or Guardians 2?
ryutaro's mama
Member
sadly I tried asking people about it today, felt like I was annoying them
Hey anyone at work talk about star wars today? (stares at me) eh, well anyone? continue to stare at me (take that as a no)
friend 2
hey you want to see star wars (yes, baby) did you see the old ones? (no)
Did you see any advertising for it at all (no) ok.
friend 3
Hey you know star wars? (yes, my husband is a manager at a plan that makes toys) oh great, so he saw the movie? (yes) are you going to go see it (no) ah, ok.
student
Hey did you know the new star wars will be here next week (nope) ok
student 2
hey you going to go see star wars next weke (no) do you know what star wars is? (no) ok back to talking about soccer
This is how it always goes for me, might as well stick to neogaf.
You live in China?
I get that it's still a huge opening, 4th all time is fantastic.
But didn't China have about 3 weeks of spectating the world loving TFA (fans and critics alike)? Seems like that would have been enough to get them over the hump of the prequels, or even just Episode 3 not being a very good entry in the franchise.
Because of the success of TFA?
1/4 ain't bad.sadly I tried asking people about it today, felt like I was annoying them
Hey anyone at work talk about star wars today? (stares at me) eh, well anyone? continue to stare at me (take that as a no)
friend 2
hey you want to see star wars (yes, baby) did you see the old ones? (no)
Did you see any advertising for it at all (no) ok.
friend 3
Hey you know star wars? (yes, my husband is a manager at a plan that makes toys) oh great, so he saw the movie? (yes) are you going to go see it (no) ah, ok.
student
Hey did you know the new star wars will be here next week (nope) ok
student 2
hey you going to go see star wars next weke (no) do you know what star wars is? (no) ok back to talking about soccer
This is how it always goes for me, might as well stick to neogaf.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
LA china town, just kidding. yes china.
But if you never been here you really dont get it until you have been here... you won't even see kids until very specific times lol
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Especially when that 1 comes with a "yes baby"
BattleMonkey
Member
Donnie Yen stars in Rogue One
That prediction by distributors was from a month ago.
I know but are we just talking about success in China in regard to Yen?
Jack The Nipper
Banned
shes a freak...
Wish you could see a video of her saying that, she says baby alll the time. also asks me to marry her :/
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I knew there was a catch
Partially, and also the fact Rogue One will feature Jiang Wen and Donnie Yen as stars. Those two factors, primarily, although I think maybe the possibility of Vader being in it could also help. Basically, Disney/Lucasfilm's marketing push for this film, and the reception of this film, would raise awareness, if nothing else, making something like Rogue One a lot more appealing.
BronsonLee
Member
No. Because the spinoffs are going to be very focused on getting Star Wars to the domesic level in the international markets.
They're very clearly skewed and cast for that fact.
ryutaro's mama
Member
It's on our list of places to go. My Chinese colleague told me I should visit the South, specifically Guangzhou. He works there and said it's not where most tourists (most go North for the Wall) go but a good place to experience China.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
It can be rough depending on where you go. Largers cities are ok but expect heavy traffic a bit of rudeness and non caring to an extent. Some people can like it but I can see a lot of people being turned off. Make sure you locate nice western toilets unless you are quite good at squatting.
Man that airport in guanzhou was seriously like a sona the first time I came through. Everyone was dripping sweat. Other than that, it seems fairly safe here but the air really can be rough. As long as your not living here dealing with cleaning the furniture and floors though it's probably better to just visit
I have no interest to go to the wall but I am mostly relaxed here when my internet or something isn't annoying me.
just for fun (this is the yes baby girl) she will go see star wars I am sure (and she is so crazy, stop eating my damn chips!) lol
Sorry guys, its getting late and I am a little bored sitting here (for the record Id never marry her crazy ass)
Honestly, she really does get on my nerves when she is at my home. Wont stop laughing.
I can see the pull in China because of those two stars, but wouldn't the international market still just view Rogue One as another SW movie (even if it's a different kind)? What's the true selling point or outstanding difference between the films, from a marketing perspective?
Not to suggest it WON'T do well, but genuinely curious.
ryutaro's mama
Member
It can be rough depending on where you go. Largers cities are ok but expect heavy traffic a bit of rudeness and non caring to an extent. Some people can like it but I can see a lot of people being turned off. Make sure you locate nice western toilets unless you are quite good at squatting.
Man that airport in guanzhou was seriously like a sona the first time I came through. Everyone was dripping sweat. Other than that, it seems fairly safe here but the air really can be rough. As long as your not living here dealing with cleaning the furniture and floors though it's probably better to just visit
I have no interest to go to the wall but I am mostly relaxed here when my internet or something isn't annoying me.
Ahhh ok that's good to know. He seems to like living there well enough and is really excited about playing tour guide for us in his city.
Would you agree it's a good taste of China though?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's kinda up to the marketing, isn't it?
I'm unsure as to what question it is you're actually asking. If you're asking why I think the movie might play better internationally? That's because it's flat-out more international. Just look at the cast. It's also apparently not very "Star Wars" in that there are no Jedi, and there might not even be any dogfights, from what I understand.
So if they sell the movie as an action-fest set in a sci-fi ground war combined with espionage aspects, featuring without a doubt the single best cast ever assembled for a Star Wars movie, period? I think that'll reach people who are already primed and semi-familiar with Star Wars, even just from The Force Awakens (which is a great intro to what Star Wars is and how it works).
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I think most places in china are similar. I would not suggest Shanghai or Bj honestly. Your not getting the best experiences there and more people speak english and it's a bit more western. I'd sa GZ should be fine (they are culturally united more than most places.. maybe because the vast density of people)
Id suggest being a bit careful and understanding that you need to always be prepared. keep water with you, bottled water only because must places you go may serve you hot drinks. Hot water and may not provide simple drinks for you. That is common for chinese people not to drink much while eating and a lot of the food can be spicy in certain parts. Also keep in mind they don't do boneless food much so your fish or meats such as chicken will be whe whole chicken cut up with the bone into a pot. Just a few simple things that people may not realize when going around here
Don't be afraid to take taxis, they are super cheap here. I take one to work cause the subway is too far to walk to and the bus stop is a bit far away too. Only costs me like a 1.50 for a 5 minute ride. Expect them to drive fast and crazy, I am on the wrong side of the road more than the right side sometimes.
Maybe my question wasn't phrased the best, but your answer is what I was looking for. I just wonder if the mere fact that it will have "Star Wars" attached to its title would be enough for many in the international market to turn away, regardless of what sort of trailers/footage is released or marketing attempted. I guess that is what I'm asking. Do you guys think the film merely being labeled "Star Wars" is enough to deter the international market (those who already did not have interest it seeing TFA)? I think there'd be enough of a difference personally, because of the mentioned differences, just more thinking of possible outcomes.
EDIT: I guess you already pretty much already answered, so my question is more geared towards the thread.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I think people are right about the chinese stars. They love fashion, models and the idea of famous things. They will take a lot more notice when a movie has some asian actors in it.
I have had experiences in china that I never met in america. the way they have influence blows my mind.
I was sitting in a cinema with this girl and I notice that she kept drinking her drink right after me. In my mind I was thinking nah this can't be happening. So, I very purposely grabbed my drink. Put it up a bit and then took a drink and in the middle of doing this she starts to drink again an is completely engrossed in the movie and I can tell she isnt joking or doing it randomly. I tried it about 2 or 3 more times to see if it was really happening and it was working. it seemed pretty crazy and I never experienced such things before. Was fun though .
Chinese people won't care about this thing that you are asking though. They don't really hold to things like this at all. THey are very very influential and they do hate japan (very passionately).... but
They do not really get angry or upset as the same things western people do. You can watch them push around and get passed in line an they will just sit there.
I think when you ask these questions in such ways, the point is. It doesn't really fit their mind set to ask it for china.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think you might be confusing a general sense of apathy or uninterest in Star Wars generally with the idea that the words Star Wars are an active audience deterrent in international markets. I don't think the branding/logo is scaring people off, it's just that it doesn't mean much by itself in a lot of markets.
People may not be really interested in Star Wars to the level they are in America and Europe, but I don't think Star Wars is actively disliked in those other regions, either. It's just ... there. It's a thing. The size of that thing can still grow, and should, if it's marketed correctly, and the films being sold are appealing beyond that initial marketing push.
It's basically the difference between blending into a crowd, and being the asshole you wanna throw out. I don't think Star Wars is the latter, and it's a question as to whether the series can break out of the former without becoming the latter.
PeskyToaster
Member
You've activated the BAYSIGNAL.
This fool doesn't even know how to pull off a proper Bay shot. You need to spin the camera and have things in the background for perspective.
Those music videos have shoestring budgets.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Cameron finally released his nod to Star Wars taking the domestic title. Typically classless Cameron.
Not really (obviously), but I'd pay real money to see him release something similar. Or hell, any acknowledgement at this point.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It also needs to start on his back, and then spin counterclockwise and come up until it's basically at eye-level by the time the actor's finished their 180 spin.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Shit just got real.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
needs more jarjar
ryutaro's mama
Member
I think most places in china are similar. I would not suggest Shanghai or Bj honestly. Your not getting the best experiences there and more people speak english and it's a bit more western. I'd sa GZ should be fine (they are culturally united more than most places.. maybe because the vast density of people)
Id suggest being a bit careful and understanding that you need to always be prepared. keep water with you, bottled water only because must places you go may serve you hot drinks. Hot water and may not provide simple drinks for you. That is common for chinese people not to drink much while eating and a lot of the food can be spicy in certain parts. Also keep in mind they don't do boneless food much so your fish or meats such as chicken will be whe whole chicken cut up with the bone into a pot. Just a few simple things that people may not realize when going around here
Don't be afraid to take taxis, they are super cheap here. I take one to work cause the subway is too far to walk to and the bus stop is a bit far away too. Only costs me like a 1.50 for a 5 minute ride. Expect them to drive fast and crazy, I am on the wrong side of the road more than the right side sometimes.
Thanks for taking the time. I will keep all this in mind going forward.
Lifejumper
Member
Early thursday estimate: 6m
http://deadline.com/2016/01/the-revenant-star-wars-the-force-awakens-weekend-box-office-1201678383/
http://deadline.com/2016/01/the-revenant-star-wars-the-force-awakens-weekend-box-office-1201678383/
amazing how on par it is with avatar so far this month. will probably have a similar weekend, too ($50m).
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Star Wars is a lot more than pointing out the lowest grossing film in the franchise. In toy sales and merchandise sales Star Wars always consistently dwarfed Marvel. It's second only to Disney Princess in terms of toys and merchandise sales.
greatestjediever
Member
Time to hit that dude up for powerball numbers
John Dunbar
correct about everything
it is if we all just agree that it is true.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
It's not a lie if you believe it.
DragonSworne
Banned
Yo, this is a BO sales thread, not a toys and merchandise sales thread.
Interesting post; thanks for your explanation. Makes more sense to me. I can't wait to see how this thing turns out in China.
He's not pointing out the lowest grossing film in the franchise. He is pointing out that Spider-man, a Marvel comic movie which was released in 2002, outgrossed Attack of the Clones, a Star Wars movie which was released in 2002. It's a pretty great counter point honestly.
It does relate. In that as an overall franchise Star Wars is MUCH bigger than Marvel and thus the potential pool for an audience for a new Star Wars film is far larger than Avengers. Meaning if the right Star Wars film had the potential to oitgross anything Marvel could release.
And TFA was that film.
Lol, I like this guy's style.
Pagusas
Elden Member
It can be rough depending on where you go. Largers cities are ok but expect heavy traffic a bit of rudeness and non caring to an extent. Some people can like it but I can see a lot of people being turned off. Make sure you locate nice western toilets unless you are quite good at squatting.
Man that airport in guanzhou was seriously like a sona the first time I came through. Everyone was dripping sweat. Other than that, it seems fairly safe here but the air really can be rough. As long as your not living here dealing with cleaning the furniture and floors though it's probably better to just visit
I have no interest to go to the wall but I am mostly relaxed here when my internet or something isn't annoying me.
just for fun (this is the yes baby girl) she will go see star wars I am sure (and she is so crazy, stop eating my damn chips!) lol
Sorry guys, its getting late and I am a little bored sitting here (for the record Id never marry her crazy ass)
Honestly, she really does get on my nerves when she is at my home. Wont stop laughing.
who is "yes baby girl"?
Mix Master
Member
I Will never understand the passion some have when it comes to Star Wars and Marvel, they are not competitors, they are sister companies, The money goes to Big Daddy Iger regardless.
eBay Huckster
Member
sadly I tried asking people about it today, felt like I was annoying them
[snip]
friend 2
hey you want to see star wars (yes, baby) did you see the old ones? (no)
[snip]
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
He basically wrote her biography (with pics) upthread, man.
Another site that people follow is Maoyan, which currently lists tickets sold on their site for the opening day at 72.4 million RMB ($11 million or so), and 15.4 million RMB (over $2 million) for midnights. One guy at Box Office Theory likes to apply a 2.75x multiplier to the final Maoyan 8 am number (5 hours from now) to estimate the opening day number.
http://piaofang.maoyan.com/movie/78536?_v_=yes
http://piaofang.maoyan.com/movie/78536?_v_=yes
Discotheque
Banned
lmao at this yes baby girl post. this thread's lost the plot...
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