Bobby Roberts
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Wkd Box Office 0101-0316 - Hate flows through BO as TFA eyes all-time DOM record
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Check upthread to see what American Sniper did in the same timeframe last year.
BronsonLee
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F7 had the farewell to Walker, but also had a shitload of goodwill off of 5 and 6, which it paid off here. It also burst big overseas.
And a cast of like four people, dammit!
30 minutes in snow and then 2.5 hours in a one room cabin cuts down on location costs
And a cast of like four people, dammit!
It's Bay. Bay movies never bomb. They make money.
Bobby Roberts
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RastaMentality
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How did Hateful Eight not cost like $25m? Is most of that paying the actors and Samuel L Jackson?
Unless I am miscounting the actual cast was all of 17 people, not counting QT narrating. The "See Full Cast" link on IMDB reveals a whopping 2 extra people.
It was shot on expensive film, and some of snow shots would have been relatively pricey to get right.
Was Paul Walker that well known/liked to have made such a huge impact on the box office? Especially overseas?
I'm guessing you've already seen it?
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Adding my 10 bucks to Star Wars.
Just doing my part
Just doing my part
I wonder what that movie would have been like if Spielberg stayed on.
Still love it though.
If we do the XB1 thing and subtract the US/Can, UK and Australia, Fast and Furious 6 was about the same size as the Dark Knight Rises in the non-English world.
ryutaro's mama
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Just look at the WW box office totals for
Fast Five
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fastfive.htm
And
Furious 6
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fast6.htm
Yeah, the series was totally on a downswing going into 7... <rolls eyes>
I've never seen a single film from the series - or trailer, for that matter - and tune out everything having to do with the series. I've also never seen a film with Paul Walker in it, or even heard of him before he died. I was still inundated with news and discussion about the fact that it was Paul Walkers farewell movie in the run up to and well after its release. It was all over the news and social media. At the least, awareness that it was his final film was very high.
Normal movie sequel growth out of good will doesn't usually result in a movie doubling its previous performance, especially when it belongs to an already fairly popular franchise. Furious 6 to 7 growth is insane.
Bobby Roberts
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I do honestly believe it had a lot to do with the commercial (that was running everywhere) that basically asked the question "Do you think Bradley Cooper is going to shoot that brown child?"
ryutaro's mama
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Sure but people like to lazily apply things like "F7/TDK did well because one of the actors died" and ignore everything else because it doesn't fit their narrative. Did the passing of Walker/Ledger heighten awareness?
Sure.
Was it the main thing responsible for its success?
C'mon now...
They could do that for this film to.
"Will John Krasinski ever have a look on his face that doesn't scream 'I've made a huge mistake'?"
BronsonLee
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The payoff in the actual movie was so shitty
LFMartins86
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Yes, it was increasing with each iteration but it fucking doubled from 6 to 7 and 6 was a weaker movie than 5. Paul Walker's death brought extra attention to it, the song that was dedicated to Paul Waker was one of the most played songs of the year. 8 could reach 1B$ but it won't reach 1.5B$ again, it won't come close to that.
Ehhhhhhhhh I have mixed feelings about that at best IF that rumor is true. I want the bluray to hit as soon as possible lol. On the other hand a re-release with any sort of new footage or whatever would probably get me to see it again.
ryutaro's mama
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I'm not from the future so I have no clue how much F8 will make in the 2017 box office.
We can talk about that next April.
I don't see anyone saying the films did well because of those factors, but rather their initial box office success was helped by them. It was a (probably decent) factor. Being part of successful series being the dominant one.
Well, did he?
BronsonLee
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Furious 8 will dethrone Star Wars: The Force Awakens in every record it just set.
It just needs to do one thing.
It just needs to do one thing.
go to space.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So Star Trek Beyond, then.
BronsonLee
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I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT
I can't wait to see how Justin Lin finds a way to hurl the Enterprise through a planet
and then do it TWO MORE TIMES
Bobby Roberts
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Posted it in the Creed spoiler thread, but you see that the National Society of Film Critics gave Michael B. Jordan the Best Actor?
ryutaro's mama
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I think you and I are on the same page.
I remember a lot of peeps discrediting TDK's success and chalking it up to Ledger passing being the reason. Same thing happened with F7. I agree the awareness helped totals (moreso within repeat views) but the people that were in the market to see those movies were gonna see it.
8 opens in the summer and will have to compete with other blockbusters. Not that it won't crush everything but I don't think it does as well as Force Awakens. Not domestically anyway.
JeTmAn81
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Episode 8 won't outgross this one, it's got that "we're back" money. The second films in all Star Wars trilogies so far are the lowest grossing.
BronsonLee
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OH SHIT, I did not. Donnie on that come up
No, all those families who took their kid to a movie with a bunch of swearing and vulgar jokes threw off the balance, not me!
Furious 7 hitting $1.5B was largely China. It increased ~$325M (up more than 490%) there from Fast 6.
Fast and Furious overseas minus China was around $200M
Fast 5 overseas minus China was $376M (up 88%)
Fast and Furious 6 overseas minus China was $484M (up 29%)
Furious 7 overseas minus China was $771M (up 59%)
Domestic was up around 52% from Fast 6 to Furious 7.
You can probably argue that an extra $100M domestic and another $100M outside of China was due to increased attention from Walker's death. Who knows about China.
Fast and Furious overseas minus China was around $200M
Fast 5 overseas minus China was $376M (up 88%)
Fast and Furious 6 overseas minus China was $484M (up 29%)
Furious 7 overseas minus China was $771M (up 59%)
Domestic was up around 52% from Fast 6 to Furious 7.
You can probably argue that an extra $100M domestic and another $100M outside of China was due to increased attention from Walker's death. Who knows about China.
ryutaro's mama
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Did Bobby tell you about how after he accepted the award, Wheelah dropped your man backstage with the two piece and a biscuit?
He left that part out.
BronsonLee
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They all saw Elf again and figured Will Ferrell was just doing another nice Christmas movie, but NAH
Wheelah got a real problem, man, gotta get that attitude in check bruh
Plasticine
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Is Hillary a Bond style villain in this?
Episode V sold more tickets than VI I believe. It's 12th all time adjusted compared to RotJ at 15th.
Bit confused by the China figures. BOM has F7 at $390m in China. Where are you getting $771?
Empire made $13M from a 1982 re-release and then another $68M from the special edition. Mojo is estimating that at $160M adjusted using last year's average ticket price. Jedi had a 1985 re-release for $11M, and then $45M from the special edition. Adjusted total for those was just under $110M.
If you are looking at the original runs, it's $675M Jedi and $658M Empire adjusted. Unadjusted it is $253M Jedi and $209M Empire.
$771M is overseas without China. Overseas total was $1162M
Bobby Roberts
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oh, it's not a dash, it's a minus sign.
Ya. I swapped out the symbol for the word, since my typing laziness was obviously causing confusion.
Oh. Yeah that's a bit confusing but makes sense now.
Obliterator
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He was well liked already, and it was a massive tragedy for such a young guy to pass like that. Especially considering by all accounts he was a good dude.
Also I believe he was very popular with the female demo in Asia?
Trickster
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Doubtful. TFA essentially have the "we're back bitches" factor going for it. VIII won't have that.
Yes. And thank god he did, because he was carrying a grenade, thus proving he did the right thing!
In reality, that incident didn't even happen, so it's an especially gross contrivance for the film.
In reality, that incident didn't even happen, so it's an especially gross contrivance for the film.
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