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That probably explains why she is dubbed over by Megumi Hayashibara in the Japanese dub then.
Which still perplexes me regardless since her English is pretty bad, yet she is still dubbed over in her native language in her own country.
Nah you're right.
BattleMonkey
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What Marketing?
They generally did but it all boils down to the actual distribution deals made. Studios are constantly working on getting bigger cuts on foreign pictures nowadays and foreign markets in generally keep growing too. Part of the problem was having to pass on distribution to other partners overseas while studios are trying to get more involved in foreign markets to get bigger shares. Foreign markets are becoming more important than domestic and showing greater growth, so they all want in now.
Definitely not wrong: there's localization costs (subtitles or dubs), lower economies of scale (most countries make only a few million), and in many cases there's a local distributor (e.g. in Portugal, Lusomundo, which is part of one the major local Telecom companies, is the distributor for most movies).
DeaconKnowledge
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So you agree with me - movies exclusively backed by nerds bomb. cool.
Also, don't know why you're talking about calling bombs after the fact. Our initial discussion was a few weeks before Pacific Rim released.
Sure. Don't see what that has to do with the nerd movie comment. Both were bombs. So again you agree.
BattleMonkey
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PR being able to possibly do 350m makes it more than a nerd backed movie.
No PR was un-bombed with the great international numbers, barring any major disaster in China/Japan. No-one in Legendary or WB made any illusions that an unknown IP was gonna soar from opening weekends on, especially in the US with almost non existent marketing. Being #1 Internationally now is pretty huge, and it will make its money back during BR sales, so un-bombed.
Saying that a movie backed exclusively by a tiny group of people won't do well is not exactly profound thinking. That's why I originally thought you were talking about nerd hype in general, and not just nerd hype for movies that never found a general audience.
I was going to explain some of the rest, but I think we are sort of talking in circles, so I will just concede that you were right in this case. Pacific Rim didn't pick up much of a general audience. That said, BattleMonkey is right that a movie doesn't head towards $350M (give or take $50M) worldwide on the back of nerds alone. There was some general audience interest (especially in Asia), just not enough to make up for that $180M price tag. The movie is not an outright bomb (I'd reserve that for films that fail to recuperate more than 1.5x their budget worldwide), but it wasn't successful either.
XiaNaphryz
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Obviously all those foreign people must be nerds as well.
Even in America, Pacific Rim has clearly been more than a "nerd movie." It just had limited interest outside of that group.
There is a very obvious example of a movie that was fueled only, and I mean only, by nerds and it's Scott Pilgrim. Scott Pilgrim was arguably loved by the Internet more than Pacific Rim, and it could only limp to 30m domestically and 47m worldwide.
There is a very obvious example of a movie that was fueled only, and I mean only, by nerds and it's Scott Pilgrim. Scott Pilgrim was arguably loved by the Internet more than Pacific Rim, and it could only limp to 30m domestically and 47m worldwide.
Matt_
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So The conjuring was over $5.5m on both Monday and Tuesday, is this normal for a horror? I thought they were supposed to drop off a cliff after the first Friday
It's double the grosses of Paranormal Activity 2&3 on comparable days
edit; it's putting the Purge and The Devil Inside to shame as well. Is it purely a summer thing?
It's double the grosses of Paranormal Activity 2&3 on comparable days
edit; it's putting the Purge and The Devil Inside to shame as well. Is it purely a summer thing?
It's the first good horror movie for quite a while.
I think moreso than being a nerd movie is that Scott Pilgrim is very limited by the generation it appeals to. It's really only people that are close in age to the characters in the movie that can really relate to it.
Summer vs non summer explains the high dailies, but it is doing quite well. Depending on its hold this weekend, the Conjuring will probably end up being the first original horror movie to break $100M in awhile (since Paranormal Activity in 2009 I think) The movie was basically flat on Saturday when you subtract previews from Friday's total. That almost never happens for horror flicks.
uh, i didnt know it wasnt a legit Twitter account, people been posting like it was.
sorry jeez.
Pacific Rim toys are going like crazy, and it hasnt even hit all territories, i think its gonna be ok.
PR is not gonna super bomba like i thought it would.
sorry to all the bitter Gaffers who wanted this to tank so they could laugh at the fans.
ryutaro's mama
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Because nerds into big robots fighting monsters seem to be the most vocal supporters of it.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Why would they laugh at the fans for it bombing?
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Pacific Rim will end up doing decent, not make a crazy profit but enough to justify its existence.
Will we get a sequel? Probably not, I would love one. As far as the effects and action in the movie they have set the bar pretty high for the new Godzilla.
Bring on more monster movies, please.
Will we get a sequel? Probably not, I would love one. As far as the effects and action in the movie they have set the bar pretty high for the new Godzilla.
Bring on more monster movies, please.
ryutaro's mama
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If Godzilla bombs, it's O-V-A-H.
ultrazilla
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It won't. I think. I hope.
Word-of-mouth is strong with this film for some reason. I liked the film but I didn't think others would have liked it as well.
theres a bunch of people who couldnt wait for PR to bomb so they could enjoy peoples sadness.
its a disgusting mindset some people have.
Despicable Me 2 just passed Man of Steel to become the #2 movie of the summer. It should pass $300M this weekend and will settle as the fifth highest grossing animated film of all time domestically (third if you don't want to count 3D re-releases for Lion King and Finding Nemo).
Pacific Rim is having decent week day holds. Unless it gets destroyed by The Wolverine this weekend, it should be around $85M domestically as of Sunday.
Tracking and early overseas grosses are looking promising for The Wolverine. I'm curious to see the preview numbers tomorrow.
Pacific Rim is having decent week day holds. Unless it gets destroyed by The Wolverine this weekend, it should be around $85M domestically as of Sunday.
Tracking and early overseas grosses are looking promising for The Wolverine. I'm curious to see the preview numbers tomorrow.
XiaNaphryz
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Ya. Pacific Rim will make more next weekend than it will this weekend worldwide. This weekend will be sort of slow. The film should be sitting at $225M (give or take a few million) Worldwide as of Sunday.
PhoncipleBone
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Good and level headed.
i shall watch it again!
I subscribe to 5+ movie podcasts. Every one gave it a good to worth watching review.
I went to a 10 pm showing of conjuring Wednesday night and it was packed. So packed my brother and I and to sit in the front row. Never saw a Wednesday night showing that filled, especially a horror movie. I loved the flick too. Hopefully this means more well made horror movies will be coming our way.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Matt_
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BOM's predictions for the weekend
Forecast (July 26-28)
The Wolverine - $72.5 million
The Conjuring - $20.7 million (-51%)
Despicable Me 2 - $14.7 million (-41%)
Turbo - $11.7 million (-45%)
Grown Ups 2 - $11 million (-45%)
Honestly I had know idea that The Wolverine was coming out this weekend
I love the X-men films but this one has completely eluded me, I don't think I've even seen a trailer or an advert for it
Forecast (July 26-28)
The Wolverine - $72.5 million
The Conjuring - $20.7 million (-51%)
Despicable Me 2 - $14.7 million (-41%)
Turbo - $11.7 million (-45%)
Grown Ups 2 - $11 million (-45%)
Honestly I had know idea that The Wolverine was coming out this weekend
I love the X-men films but this one has completely eluded me, I don't think I've even seen a trailer or an advert for it
Due to disappoint domestic box office. Internationally, it's doing three times the BO of Lone Ranger, about the same as Oblivion, 8 times White House Down, 75% Star Trek Into Darkness, and about the same Great Gatsby.
Maybe hit is a stretch (Pacific Rim will probably do better than AE), but definitely respectable numbers.
I'm glad that the Conjuring continues to do well. While I'm not a fan of horror at all (I might catch the film on Blu Ray) the fact that an 'adult orientated' film that didn't cost the earth is doing so well in a summer of huge bombs is great.
I think that Conjuring could continue to do solid business over the next few weeks and should finish well over $100m.
This still represents a sizable loss to Sony. Will Smith is a draw to International audiences so $175m+ isn't surprising but when the vehicle is this expensive a loss is still a loss.
Remember than Will Smith might take as much as a THIRD of the first dollar gross regardless of whether the film is a flop or not. So Sony will have to hand over a ton of cash to Smith and his production company despite the fact the film is in the red financially.
I imagine that given the amount the Sony spent on production and marketing the film and the fact that the studio will get less than half of the film's worldwide take (and that's before Will Smith gets to wet his beak) this could represent a $100m loss.
I think that Conjuring could continue to do solid business over the next few weeks and should finish well over $100m.
This still represents a sizable loss to Sony. Will Smith is a draw to International audiences so $175m+ isn't surprising but when the vehicle is this expensive a loss is still a loss.
Remember than Will Smith might take as much as a THIRD of the first dollar gross regardless of whether the film is a flop or not. So Sony will have to hand over a ton of cash to Smith and his production company despite the fact the film is in the red financially.
I imagine that given the amount the Sony spent on production and marketing the film and the fact that the studio will get less than half of the film's worldwide take (and that's before Will Smith gets to wet his beak) this could represent a $100m loss.
Friday Studio Estimates:
1) The Wolverine - $21M
2) The Conjuring - $7.4M - $69M total
3) Despicable Me 2 - $4.8M - $295M total
4) Turbo - $4M - $46M total
5) Grown Ups 2 - ??
xx) Pacific Rim - $2.2M - $79M total
xx) RIPD - $1.8M - $20M total
- Pacific Rim is either 6th or 7th place depending on how Red 2 held.
1) The Wolverine - $21M
2) The Conjuring - $7.4M - $69M total
3) Despicable Me 2 - $4.8M - $295M total
4) Turbo - $4M - $46M total
5) Grown Ups 2 - ??
xx) Pacific Rim - $2.2M - $79M total
xx) RIPD - $1.8M - $20M total
- Pacific Rim is either 6th or 7th place depending on how Red 2 held.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Low 60's is less than what others had pegged at anywhere from 70 to 80 mil. What's also interesting is a budget of $120 mil after credits and rebates. That makes the movie immediately profitable when WW numbers start to come in.
Dat Vin Diesel power. Hopefully it translates into good Riddick numbers!
That's pretty good. I would have thought people would be burnt on the Wolverine after like 5 movies but it seems not, which is a good indication for Marvel, Fox, Sony and WB re their superhero properties.
BOM Friday Estimates:
Pacific Rim is still following Cowboys and Aliens' run pretty closely. If it continues to do a little better on the week days and a little worse on the weekends, it can make it to $100M. It needs a decent drop next week against Smurfs 2 and 2 Guns though.
Pacific Rim is still following Cowboys and Aliens' run pretty closely. If it continues to do a little better on the week days and a little worse on the weekends, it can make it to $100M. It needs a decent drop next week against Smurfs 2 and 2 Guns though.
Phoenician_Viking
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Huh? Everything about Wolverine was spelling success. A new location, a new plot point, dealing with Wolverines immortality, and it´s a darker movie. Besides Wolverine is the most popular X-Men, and a very popular figure
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