MilesWebber
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A horror film opens at number one in July?
Fucking awesome. Can't wait to see it!
Fucking awesome. Can't wait to see it!
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Wkd Box Office 0719-2113 - it's SCARY at the top, turbomba, R.I.P.D. DOA R.I.P.
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As far as I know, they aren't letting that bald idiot anywhere near the Star Wars scripts, so I'm at least hopeful.A strange crusade?! I told everyone the film would be garbage. And lo and behold it was garbage.
I'm just a lone wolf trying to tell it like it is. So you and yours can enjoy better films son.
Long story short I'm exactly like Jon Snow from Game Of Thrones manning the wall all by myself.
*strikes heroic pose*
...., in saying I wonder how people will feel about Abrams when he totally shits the bed with the next Star Wars film. Hmmmm.
Star Trek Into Darkness was exactly like Star Trek 1
Hot Garbage script with ass plotting, but tight direction and charismatic performances holding the whole thing together.
Hence why it's a worse film than the original. They had so much time to work on everything, but you wouldn't know it from how shit everything was put together in the face of cramming in unwanted Wrath of Khan allusions. Cast rapport goes only so far.
There are (many) ways of looking at the glass as half-full but it is still under-performing. Like some one said earlier, if the disc release gets popular and if it pulls closer to 400M then there might be some interest internally at WB. I'm putting both 400M + disc sales as a barometer because look at Dredd, it bombed and I think did well (not spectacular) on disc but no sequel. (THANKFULLY)Futhermore one is a original IP while the other is an adaptation. So Pacific Rim doing these numbers ten days in is actually quite good.
One place I think they can cut costs is that they can re-use all the sets they made, I know Del Toro was big on not making the human control part CG and they may have invested quite a lot in creating those sets. Wasnt the whole set rigged to move as well? I remember reading or hearing this somewhere ..The problem with Pacific Rim is that it was already operating with a cheap cast and (from the sounds of it) a heavily discounted SFX contract. They may have difficulties cutting costs in ways that won't be noticeable on screen, even if there was interest in a sequel.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Like some one said earlier, if the disc release gets popular and if it pulls closer to 400M then there might be some interest internally at WB.
Would WB have rights to a sequel? Or would Legendary hold it and be able to go to Universal with it?
Uhhh, completely forgot about that.Would WB have rights to a sequel? Or would Legendary hold it and be able to go to Universal with it?
It is very wierd/hypocritical. Almost anything on screen that isn't a giant robot is utterly abhorrent. There's no ignoring how bad the acting, plotting and writing is. Mickey Mouse bullshit from start to finish.
I think there's an argument to be made about the silliness and absurd lack of subtlety being part of the fun of the genre.
BronsonLee
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Would WB have rights to a sequel? Or would Legendary hold it and be able to go to Universal with it?
If Legendary owns it stock, I'd be shocked if they didn't try and make something out of it. Go lower budget like GI Joe. What else could they bring that they fully own?
I think there's an argument to be made about the silliness and absurd lack of subtlety being part of the fun of the genre.
I would agree with this. Pacific Rim is doing nothing that's any more offensive than its inspirations have done. It's fair criticism if that's not your bag in the first place, but it's really not hard to see why people have latched onto it.
Would WB have rights to a sequel? Or would Legendary hold it and be able to go to Universal with it?
It's my understanding that it's the 'mirror' of Legendary's co-finance deals with WB so Legendary (who ultimately own the IP) are contractually obliged to co-finance a possible sequel with Warners but are free to shop a theoretical third film where ever they like. Likely Universal.
This is why Legendary came aboard to co-finance Man Of Steel. They had a deal to co-fi two Superman films when they worked with WB on Superman Returns. When there was no sequel to Superman Returns the deal rolled onto MOS.
This is why Legendary won't be involved in the MOS2 (or whatever it will be called) and why they had to fight tooth and nail to co-finance just 25% (rather than the usual 50%) of TDKR.
Abrams just needs to dump the Orci/Kurtzman/Lindelof train into a ravine.
Well Orci/Kurtzman/Lindelof weren't involved in Super 8 (unless they did some uncredited doctoring) and that didn't exactly turn out great either.
Or course working with the Disney machine on Star Wars will be a very different proposition altogether.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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I think there's an argument to be made about the silliness and absurd lack of subtlety being part of the fun of the genre.
Nah, a lot of GAFers just have shit taste. I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt in OT.
Would WB have rights to a sequel? Or would Legendary hold it and be able to go to Universal with it?
Since it's legendary's first film out on there own they might try to make something out of it. But it really depends on how backloaded the sales
Pass on what? People liking it? How dare they
It's nothing like that, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
I just think that PR has mediocre characters (bordering on obnoxious in the case of the scientist stereotypes), poor pacing, and meaningless CG action. Other movies justifiably get shat on for these flaws by the same posters who loved PR. It's just difficult to reconcile in my head, and makes me think people are willing to give it more leeway because they like the idea conceptually (badass robo vs alien movie, new IP, what have you), than on its objective merits.
I think there's an argument to be made about the silliness and absurd lack of subtlety being part of the fun of the genre.
But it's not entertaining. It's just bland. I would much rather they spent more time with the Russian pilots
Bobby Roberts
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How close are we to calling Star Trek Into Darkness final totals? It's gotta be pretty much wrapped at this point, yes?
Elysium's basically THE END of the summer of 2013, I believe.
Elysium's basically THE END of the summer of 2013, I believe.
Nah, a lot of GAFers just have shit taste. I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt in OT.
But it's not entertaining. It's just bland. I would much rather they spent more time with the Russian pilots
I'm not saying you have to like it. I do, however, think that's a reasonable explanation for why people might enjoy the silliness and illogical plotting of Pacific Rim while hating other blockbusters.
BattleMonkey
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It's nothing like that, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
I just think that PR has mediocre characters (bordering on obnoxious in the case of the scientist stereotypes), poor pacing, and meaningless CG action. Other movies justifiably get shat on for these flaws by the same posters who loved PR. It's just difficult to reconcile in my head, and makes me think people are willing to give it more leeway because they like the idea conceptually (badass robo vs alien movie, new IP, what have you), than on its objective merits.
It was a simple fun movie, think many who go to see a kaiju movie know to expect this from the genre. To me it was exactly what popcorn films are supposed to be, unlike the awful plotting and writing of stuff like Transformers or Star Trek, it kept things simple and straight forward. I came for giant robots and monsters, I got enough of it to keep me satisfied without being pulled out by stupid found in something like a Bay flick.
I don't think people are just telling themselves they liked the movie. Quite a few people have posted saying they didn't care for it, but are people just forcing themselves to like it just because it's unique?
Bobby Roberts
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Not that plotting actually has anything to do with Box-Office - but Star Trek Into Darkness' plotting is pretty straightforward. It's actually an improvement from the first movie. For what that's worth
BattleMonkey
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Not that plotting actually has anything to do with Box-Office - but Star Trek Into Darkness' plotting is pretty straightforward. It's actually an improvement from the first movie. For what that's worth
Yea I agree, I was talking more in line with the first one which was pretty bad when you try to think about it. Still had fun with both movies though.
Darth Sonik
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As a Star Trek fan I can say I enjoyed watching the movie... as a purely 3D whiz bang experience.
However as a film it doesn't hold up to a moments thought. As a piece of Trek it ranks below "Spock's Brain" in stupidity, even the idiotic first film had some merit in comparison.
I'm not a JJ hater but his sensibilities do not line up with Star Trek, and I am apprehensive for his take on Star Wars as well.
However as a film it doesn't hold up to a moments thought. As a piece of Trek it ranks below "Spock's Brain" in stupidity, even the idiotic first film had some merit in comparison.
I'm not a JJ hater but his sensibilities do not line up with Star Trek, and I am apprehensive for his take on Star Wars as well.
aw hell yeah.
the toys are selling like crazy.
hopefully, toys sales + game sales + DVD/Blu-Ray sales = guaranteed sequel.
plus it still hasnt premiered in every country yet right? Pacific Rim can still make a bit more money in the box office.
aw hell yeah.
the toys are selling like crazy.
hopefully, toys sales + game sales + DVD/Blu-Ray sales = guaranteed sequel.
plus it still hasnt premiered in every country yet right? Pacific Rim can still make a bit more money in the box office.
It is still opening Internationally and doing very well
Box Office Mojo Weekend Roundup said:Pacific Rim was a close second this weekend with $34.8 million from 48 territories. It opened in first place in France with $3.8 million, and debuted to $2 million in Germany. To date, it's earned $110.3 million, and still has openings in China, Spain, Brazil and Japan on the way.
China, Japan should hoist it up some more to make up for the US and they still think it will cross $100m in the US. So while it won't be a massive MoS or Avengers success its going to far from the super bomba that GAF likes to predict. Especially when you add in the heavy $$$ from licensing deals that are coming out now with NECA, Sideshow and potentially in comic books and of course the home video sales which Del Toro has a reliable audience.
How close are we to calling Star Trek Into Darkness final totals? It's gotta be pretty much wrapped at this point, yes?
Elysium's basically THE END of the summer of 2013, I believe.
Star Trek still has a Japanese opening, plus openings in a couple of South American territories. Those territories made the last film ~$7M, so I'd guess that Into Darkness is heading to a final total around $460-465M worldwide. It's pretty much done everywhere else at this point. The film earned $1.8M worldwide in the past week.
Elysium is probably the last film with a good shot at $100M this summer, yes.
China, Japan should hoist it up some more to make up for the US and they still think it will cross $100m in the US.
Pacific Rim is following Cowboys and Aliens pretty closely, and that (barely) crossed $100M. If Pacific Rim misses $100M, it won't be by much.
You are talking about the best reviewed blockbuster of 2013 you realize.A strange crusade?! I told everyone the film would be garbage. And lo and behold it was garbage.
I'm just a lone wolf trying to tell it like it is. So you and yours can enjoy better films son.
Long story short I'm exactly like Jon Snow from Game Of Thrones manning the wall all by myself.
*strikes heroic pose*
...., in saying I wonder how people will feel about Abrams when he totally shits the bed with the next Star Wars film. Hmmmm.
Bobby Roberts
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Star Trek still has a Japanese opening, plus openings in a couple of South American territories. Those territories made the last film ~$7M, so I'd guess that Into Darkness is heading to a final total around $460-465M worldwide. It's pretty much done everywhere else at this point. The film earned $1.8M worldwide in the past week.
Elysium is probably the last film with a good shot at $100M this summer, yes.
Cool, thanks man.
Still think Warners is gonna limp Man of Steel to 300 come hell or high water, but yeah, the numbers are making that look less like a limp and more like a draaaaaaaaag.
Cool, thanks man.
Still think Warners is gonna limp Man of Steel to 300 come hell or high water, but yeah, the numbers are making that look less like a limp and more like a draaaaaaaaag.
It's got way too far to go and dollar theaters are dead. You cant fudge the numbers enough domestically to get it to 300. Dragging it will get you to 290-292 million, not 300.
I'm wondering what's going through Ryan Reynolds mind right now. TV show on CBS, Netflix, or HBO incoming? I mean, what was his last hit?
The Proposal did quite well. I can totally see him going to romcom hell for a bit.
Star Trek still has a Japanese opening, plus openings in a couple of South American territories. Those territories made the last film ~$7M, so I'd guess that Into Darkness is heading to a final total around $460-465M worldwide. It's pretty much done everywhere else at this point. The film earned $1.8M worldwide in the past week.
Elysium is probably the last film with a good shot at $100M this summer, yes.
Pacific Rim is following Cowboys and Aliens pretty closely, and that (barely) crossed $100M. If Pacific Rim misses $100M, it won't be by much.
that Elysium movie looks really cool.
You are talking about the best reviewed blockbuster of 2013 you realize.
Don't you realize that it only takes one opinion to definitively declare something garbage? How could you say "I told you so" if not? Saying "I told you it would be garbage but you all liked it" doesn't really have the same ring.
You are talking about the best reviewed blockbuster of 2013 you realize.
People like blood sausage. People are idiots.*
* Can't remember the exact line......,
Don't you realize that it only takes one opinion to definitively declare something garbage? How could you say "I told you so" if not? Saying "I told you it would be garbage but you all liked it" doesn't really have the same ring.
Well it's not like a majority of people mildly enjoying something means it's definitely not garbage either.
Bobby Roberts
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It's got way too far to go and dollar theaters are dead. You cant fudge the numbers enough domestically to get it to 300. Dragging it will get you to 290-292 million, not 300.
I'm in PDX - Dollar theaters are alive and well, sir!
Charles Foster Kane
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Cool, thanks man.
Still think Warners is gonna limp Man of Steel to 300 come hell or high water, but yeah, the numbers are making that look less like a limp and more like a draaaaaaaaag.
At this point I don't think it'll get there.
Bobby Roberts
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I know, I'm just sticking to my guns at this point. I can smell the crow comin, but I must wait until the bitter end before I take my first bite.
I'm in PDX - Dollar theaters are alive and well, sir!
i have a 3 dollar theatre by me, gonna see Pacific Rim again when it hits there.
scytherage
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Star Trek is the one getting a free pass. That film was an utter mess towards the end. The fan service in that film just went overboard compared to the first one.
Pacific Rim #1 Internationally Over Weekend
"EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros has bragging rights today for distributing the Legendary Pictures 3D scifi actioner around the world after co-financing it. Ive learned the studio discovered this morning that last weekends results came in $500K higher than forecast on Sunday. The result is that Guillermo Del Toros Pacific Rim grossed $35.3M with 4.7M admissions from 9,610 screens in 50 territories. That was just enough to knock off Universals 3D toon Despicable Me 2 and become the #1 film internationally over the weekend now that all the numbers are in."
http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/pacific-rim-1-internationally-over-weekend/
"EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros has bragging rights today for distributing the Legendary Pictures 3D scifi actioner around the world after co-financing it. Ive learned the studio discovered this morning that last weekends results came in $500K higher than forecast on Sunday. The result is that Guillermo Del Toros Pacific Rim grossed $35.3M with 4.7M admissions from 9,610 screens in 50 territories. That was just enough to knock off Universals 3D toon Despicable Me 2 and become the #1 film internationally over the weekend now that all the numbers are in."
http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/pacific-rim-1-internationally-over-weekend/
ChosenPredator
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man all the pacific rim stuff in this thread has totally bummed me out, oh well I enjoyed it, I'll still collect all the figures.
man all the pacific rim stuff in this thread has totally bummed me out, oh well I enjoyed it, I'll still collect all the figures.
cross quote from the OT thread.
More positive news from DelToroFilms official twitter account!
Parker @DelToroFilms ‏@deltorofilms 14h
#PacificRim finishes #6 in Domestic gross this weekend at just under $16 million http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
#PacificRim has been a monster overseas, however. Total box office is over $178 million (budget was $190 mill)
#PacificRim is killing it around the world. $110 mil in foreign box office with China, Spain, Brazil and Japan releases coming up.
#PacificRim should be in the black by next weekend - fingers crossed for #PacificRim2
"#PacificRim should be in the black by next weekend - fingers crossed for #PacificRim2"
There aren't enough laughing or rolling eyes smileys in the world for this shit.
A lot of people forget about the theatre's cut.
A lot of people forget about the theatre's cut.
And marketing costs...
Why is that twitter account of a del toro fanboy site sourced so much here?
People want to believe, so they'll grasp at anything.
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