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[kswiston]

The highest grossing Godzilla film in the last 25 years was Godzilla vs Mothra, and it only made $20 million. The most recent film Godzilla Final Wars only made $12 million. The genre hasn't been a major box office draw in decades. King Kong vs Godzilla is still the genre's high water mark and that was 50 years ago.

Do you have numbers for Godzilla (1998) in Japan? I can't find them, but based off its respectable overseas gross for the era, I would imagine it did better than $20M in Japan. There has been nothing but low budget domestic monster movies between that and Pacific Rim.

Plus, Evangelion 3.0 did $60M in Japan last year. There's a market for mechs if not monsters. I don't think big grosses are a lock by any means, but I think the film will perform pretty well in the territory for a Hollywood film.

 

[CharminUltra]

Wait, what? If you don't want to see it, don't see it. Your $12 is not going to make a difference.

It's a business, not a charity.

That's not why I want to see it now. Its because of it's inevitable underrated, cult-like film status

 

[Won]

They made a Red 2?

Also everything is so damn expensive. Wow.

 

[Batigol]

Reynolds is finished now hopefully. Good riddance

 

[TheMan]

i'm surprised that despicable me 2 has such a low budget- i thought these movies usually cost 100 million minimum

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

The highest grossing Godzilla film in the last 25 years was Godzilla vs Mothra, and it only made $20 million. The most recent film Godzilla Final Wars only made $12 million. The genre hasn't been a major box office draw in decades. King Kong vs Godzilla is still the genre's high water mark and that was 50 years ago.

The production values are on a completely different level though (compared to those movies) , I could see that making more people want to see it.

 

[forgeforsaken]

I don't post fake numbers. If I post something, it's from Boxoffice.com, ERC, or Rentrak. Mojo will update their totals eventually, but they will be within $100k or so (depending on rounding) of what I have above.

I didn't accuse you of doing so, but if I'm going to talk about the numbers on another forum I need to know where they came from so I can back them up with more than "some guy on GAF said..."

 

[Busty]

That is why Bullock + Clooney + Space = boxoffice smash!

I honestly hope so. I'd love to see Gravity clean up this awards season and (as has been mentioned in the past) see Bullock perhaps even get another statue.

If Gravity can cross over and really connect with a non 'sci-fi/spectacle' audience it would represent a major victory for adult filmmaking and justify WB spending serious cash on a film that doesn't feature a protagonist with a cape.

Mars Needs Moms.

On the bright side. RIPD opened to $6.4M in Russia, which was higher than Man of Steel's debut in that region.

Ahhh of course, good man. That's a great shout. A film so forgettable that it's evaporated from history itself.

I seem to remember John Carter having a great opening in Russia too. I'm sure this is all part of Putin's master plan to undermine America's cultural invasion. Or something.

 

[kswiston]

I didn't accuse you of doing so, but if I'm going to talk about the numbers on another forum I need to know where they came from so I can back them up with more than "some guy on GAF said..."

They usually take awhile to show up on a better source than twitter, but boxoffice.com tends to have numbers on their site the earliest. Just check their Global News articles.

 

[vatstep]

I'm surprised that RIPD even managed $12M.

 

[Blablurn]

PR still not out in China as well.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Don't you think there is a fear in making a movie called RIPD? like it being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ryan Reynolds' career will be hurt by this and so will the director's.

 

[hoos30]

That's not why I want to see it now. Its because of it's inevitable underrated, cult-like film status

Okay, I get it. Yes, the brownshirts of Firefly will have some competition in the cult-status arena.

 

[Sub_Level]

Pacific Rim
Domestic: $68,200,000
Foreign: $110,300,000
Worldwide: $178,500,000

Aren't those numbers good? Seems like it's pretty close to making up it's budget which I thought was around 200mil. Breaking even isn't bad. And even if they spent another hundred million just on marketing, there's still China.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Aren't those numbers good? Seems like it's pretty close to making up it's budget which I thought was around 200mil. Breaking even isn't bad. And even if they spent another hundred million just on marketing, there's still China.

It need to make almost twice its budget to brake even.

 

[hoos30]

Don't you think there is a fear in making a movie called RIPD? like it being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ryan Reynolds' career will be hurt by this and so will the director's.

Apparently, there wasn't ENOUGH fear; they went and did it anyway.

 

[kswiston]

Aren't those numbers good? Seems like it's pretty close to making up it's budget which I thought was around 200mil. Breaking even isn't bad. And even if they spent another hundred million just on marketing, there's still China.

The studio cut of that was probably in the $80-90M range, so the film has a long way to go before it can think about being profitable.

Don't you think there is a fear in making a movie called RIPD? like it being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ryan Reynolds' career will be hurt by this and so will the director's.

This was the director's first flop. He previously directed Flight Plan, the Time Traveler's Wife, and RED, which were all successful. At worst, he may just stick with mid budget films.

 

[Tamanon]

Aren't those numbers good? Seems like it's pretty close to making up it's budget which I thought was around 200mil. Breaking even isn't bad. And even if they spent another hundred million just on marketing, there's still China.

Studios don't get all the grosses that a movie earns. Far from it.

By the looks of it, it'll probably end up losing ~$80 million by the end of things.

 

[Dram]

So since Pacific Rim bombed does this mean there no chance for the At the Mountains of Madness movie?

 

[kswiston]

So since Pacific Rim bombed does this mean there no chance for the At the Mountains of Madness movie?

There was probably no chance even if Pacific Rim was successful. Studios aren't lining up to fund big budget R-rated horror films.

 

[xaosslug]

How many bombs is one man allowed?

too many, if you've got a recognizable name. I mean it's not like he's Taylor Kitsch. LOL

While his career isn't dead per se he's done as far as film is concerned. I can see him doing a premium cable show like a Ray Donovan or Californication type of show in a year or two though.

Between RIPD, The Change Up and Green Lantern he just hasn't taken off at all. Safe House was a hit but that was Denzel all day long. Universal mooted a Reynolds centric sequel to Safe House but I think that's probably off the table after this weekend.

nah, he'll do a couple of Indies and be back w/ another flop. LOL His name still carries 'heartthrob' weight so studios won't kick him to the curb until something better comes along.

he needs to be more discerning w/ his roles, tho. Really.

Pretty much. As soon as the premiere for the last Twilight film finished his career was taken out back behind the coal shed and shot.

i felt bad for him w/ that Disney channel action flick. SMH

 

[Busty]

So since Pacific Rim bombed does this mean there no chance for the At the Mountains of Madness movie?

Pacific Rm hasn't bombed. If anything it's underperformed but there is still a lot of road left to travel (home video tv sales etc) so it should at least break even for those involved.

However ATMOM is a very different proposition. I'm not saying it will never be made but it's not going to start shooting any time soon. The fact that The Conjuring cost $20m or so to produce (an R rated horror film itself) and had a record breaking opening weekend and yet opened with 'just' $40m shows that studios aren't confident in investing a lot of money in the genre.

Never say never in this business but it's a project that's not happening anytime soon.

 

[ymmv]

So since Pacific Rim bombed does this mean there no chance for the At the Mountains of Madness movie?

A big budget R rated horror movie from a director who's failed to set the box office on fire with his previous action movies?No chance at all I'd gather.

Which isn't a bad thing. GdT should get back to making movies like The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth - or producing a movie like The Orphanage. It's a pity though that he didn't get to make The Hobbit though.

 

[linsivvi]

A big budget R rated horror movie from a director who's failed to set the box office on fire with his previous action movies?No chance at all I'd gather.

Which isn't a bad thing. GdT should get back to making movies like The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth - or producing a movie like The Orphanage. It's a pity though that he didn't get to make The Hobbit though.

This. Big budget Hollywood films ruined/setback so many directors career. Nolan is a prime example.

 

[freenudemacusers]

That's almost literally impossible in 2800 theaters. Less than a million would mean something like ten people in each *theater* per day. It would have to play to statistically empty screens for the entire weekend.

A true flop will find a way:

"To put that in perspective, if each location played Oogieloves five times a day on one screen at an average ticket price of $7, that would translate to fewer than two people per showing", according to Box Office Mojo.

This was only 2,100 or so theaters, however

 

[kswiston]

This. Big budget Hollywood films ruined/setback so many directors career. Nolan is a prime example.

Nolan is a horrible example. The guy can do whatever movie he wants now. If Interstellar is a hit, he will have solidified himself as one of the very few bankable directors in Hollywood. His career is only "ruined" if you assumed he wanted to remain a low budget indie darling. Taking on Batman Begins tells me that he didn't.

A true flop will find a way:

This was only 2,100 or so theaters, however

RIPD just looks generic and not worth more than a Netflix viewing. Oogieloves looked like it was actually bad for your mental health.

 

[vio]

Taylor Kitsch is calling Ryan Reynolds at this very moment to ask him if he wants to hang out.

 

[Delusibeta]

So RIPD is THE bomba of the summer?

It makes The Lone Ranger look outright profitable.

 

[Toa TAK]

It makes The Lone Ranger look outright profitable.

Don't mess with my emotions, man.

 

[freenudemacusers]

RIPD just looks generic and not worth more than a Netflix viewing. Oogieloves looked like it was actually bad for your mental health.

It's actually on netflix right now, and it's really no better/worse than your standard toddler fare. That said, there must have been some powerful drugs going around the table when they thought parents would want to sit in a theater and watch it.

 

[Road]

Also, Lionsgate-Summit’s “Red 2″ succumbed to the weight of an overcrowded frame, earning just $18.5 million, roughly $3 million less than its predecessor’s debut weekend.

Or maybe there are many people like me who have only found out they were making a sequel to Red after reading this article.

 

[Snaku]

The production values are on a completely different level though (compared to those movies) , I could see that making more people want to see it.

Possibly. But if Toho saw any money to be made down that road they would have taken it. Final Wars cost $20 million to produce, the most expensive Godzilla production to date celebrating the 50th anniversary of the franchise, and it still only grossed $12 million. That's why there hasn't been a new Godzilla film in a decade, and if it weren't for Legendary there probably wouldn't be one at all for the foreseeable future.

 

[Busty]

Taylor Kitsch is calling Ryan Reynolds at this very moment to ask him if he wants an application form for the Burger King he works at.

Fixed.

 

[Oblivion]

Okay, so the theatrical numbers for PR don't seem so good, but what about when it gets released on DVD/Blu ray? Shouldn't that help?

 

[Batigol]

Don't you think there is a fear in making a movie called RIPD? like it being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ryan Reynolds' career will be hurt by this and so will the director's.

Back to tv sitcoms he goes

 

[linsivvi]

Nolan is a horrible example. The guy can do whatever movie he wants now. If Interstellar is a hit, he will have solidified himself as one of the very few bankable directors in Hollywood. His career is only "ruined" if you assumed he wanted to remain a low budget indie darling. Taking on Batman Begins tells me that he didn't.



RIPD just looks generic and not worth more than a Netflix viewing. Oogieloves looked like it was actually bad for your mental health.

If you measure success by box office number, sure. In that sense Michael Bay is a success too. The quality of Nolan movies have dropped quite significantly. Batman Begins is also still his best Batman movie.

 

[NomarTyme]

Back to tv sitcoms he goes

Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place? <3

Taylor Kitsch is calling Ryan Reynolds at this very moment to ask him if he wants to hang out.

I think Sam Worthington gonna be there too.

 

[xaosslug]

Taylor Kitsch is calling Ryan Reynolds at this very moment to ask him if he wants to hang out.

apples to apple seeds. Taylor Kitsch never happened, but was being pushed for who know why? Ryan Reynolds is actually a name with a modicum of recognition, which is worth a lot.

you can bet Hollywood is bending over backwards to find the 'right project' for RR pick himself up and dust himself off.

 

[Price Drop]

Pacific Rim at $178M worldwide in two weeks with China and Japan to go is far from the bomb that the media pegged it to be. It'll definitely make its $190M budget and has a good chance to be greenlit for sequel.

The sequel should definitely utilize licensing deals to help out with the budget. There needs to be toys, books, fast food tie-ins, broadcast airing rights - all the robots and characters have a ton of potential for a build-able franchise.

 

[Mario]

Professionally: Damn it, Turbo!

Personally: Damn it, Pacific Rim!

 

[Busty]

Pacific Rim at $178M worldwide in two weeks with China and Japan to go is far from the bomb that the media pegged it to be.

Yup.

It'll definitely make its $190M budget and has a good chance to be greenlit for sequel.

Nope. Pacific Rim will end up doing 'solid business' and will likely a break even proposition at the end of the day. Hollywood don't invest $150/200m to make sequels to films that do 'solid business'.

Pacific Rim could continue as a franchise in comics and other 'new media' but a sequel to the film is very, very unlikely.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I see all that positive WoM saved Pacific Rim in the second weekend.

Just like Scott Pilgrim.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Why did RIPD cost $130 million to make? Who green-lit this project for that budget?

I only gave the greenlight the thumbs up. In fact, it wasn't even my thumb....

 

[BertramCooper]

apples to apple seeds. Taylor Kitsch never happened, but was being pushed for who know why? Ryan Reynolds is actually a name with a modicum of recognition, which is worth a lot.

you can bet Hollywood is bending over backwards to find the 'right project' for RR pick himself up and dust himself off.

Hollywood has been painfully slow to realize that the era of the A-list superstar is over.

Big stars don't guarantee a big gross anymore. Therefore, trying to create the next Cruise or Pitt is a fool's errand.

 

[kswiston]

If you measure success by box office number, sure. In that sense Michael Bay is a success too. The quality of Nolan movies have dropped quite significantly. Batman Begins is also still his best Batman movie.

Inception was one of the most successful original movies of all time at the box office. The movie was met with critical and audience acclaim, and Nolan was recognized by his peers with major nominations for directing, writing, and/or producing from all of the major guild awards. TDK also had similar acclaim, if not as many award nominations. Unless you are using the "my personal taste is the ultimate arbitrator of reality", there is no way you an claim that big budget films ruined or set back Nolan's career. He went from a small time director to a major industry player in less than a decade. As much as J.J. Abrams tries, I think that Christopher Nolan has the best chance of becoming the Steven Spielberg of his generation of directors.

 

[BattleMonkey]

PR will probably break even when all is said and done, but profitable is hard to say. It likely make a good chunk of change off merchandising licensing.

 

[MeBecomingI]

Pacific Rim... those numbers just kill me.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

What does "bomb" even mean at this point? It's so overused anymore.

I see all that positive WoM saved Pacific Rim in the second weekend.

Just like Scott Pilgrim.

Oooooh, someone's got an ax to grind!

 

[Busty]

As much as J.J. Abrams tries, I think that Christopher Nolan has the best chance of becoming the Steven Spielberg of his generation of directors.

I agree with this. Abrams is a smart director, not a great one. If you measure the two director's filmographies against one and another there really is no comparison.

I'd taken Interstellar (or whatever original project Nolan is working on) over Abrams' new Star Wars film (sigh unseen) every day of the week.

 

[kurbaan]

I see all that positive WoM saved Pacific Rim in the second weekend.

Just like Scott Pilgrim.

People have to go see the movie for it to have WoM.

oh and Scott Pilgrim was garbage.