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Wkd Box Office 08•09-11•13 - TRUTHFACT: Matt Damon is not a leading man. (-_-)

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Superheroes are so in right now.

It sucks that while superheroe movies are at a high, we're getting shit Spider-Man movies and Plain Ass OG X-Men was run into the ground. Two of my favorite comic books, and nothing real exciting to me is being done with them. Not that I'm not looking forward to DoFP, but it's still not real ass X-Men.
 

Cheebo

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It sucks that while superheroe movies are at a high, we're getting shit Spider-Man movies and Plain Ass OG X-Men was run into the ground. Two of my favorite comic books, and nothing real exciting to me is being done with them. Not that I'm not looking forward to DoFP, but it's still not real ass X-Men.

Well when you think about it, if we weren't getthing these Sony and Fox Spider-Man & X-Men movies we'd not have the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Nor would we have Marvel at all potentially. Selling those film rights is what kept Marvel from going bankrupt.
 
It sucks that while superheroe movies are at a high, we're getting shit Spider-Man movies and Plain Ass OG X-Men was run into the ground. Two of my favorite comic books, and nothing real exciting to me is being done with them. Not that I'm not looking forward to DoFP, but it's still not real ass X-Men.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one that thought ASM was a steaming POS.

Have zero interest in the sequel.
 

kswiston

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I didn't realize Iron Man's overseas grosses were so poor pre-Avengers.

Other than Spider-man, Comic book movies used to be pretty soft performers overseas in comparison to their domestic earnings. That changed big time last year.


Looks like Pacific Rim had a soft opening in Japan. World War Z beat it by quite a bit. It won't do much in the region. A lot less than the $40-50M that I thought would be possible, and possibly under $20M. Still the stronger than expected grosses in China, plus other holdover business means that $400M could still happen. The movie is topping $380M for sure, giving it a 2x production multiplier.


The Wolverine already at X-Men Origin's overseas total, and should pass that and X-Men First Class within the next few weeks. Future openings in Japan and China (assuming it is slated for release) will probably make it the highest grossing film in the series overseas. Worldwide, I would guess that it will finish higher than the first Wolverine but lower than X2. It's a bit early to tell though. No China release would put it closer to $350M.


As for the eariler Thor vs Man of Steel debate, I think it will be close. For now, I am going to say $200M domestic and $400M overseas for Thor, but a few breakout territories could put it past Man of Steel. MoS will finish in the $660-670M range.

You're not alone.


400 million is gonna be a breeze.

$400M is not going to be a breeze. In the past 2 weeks, the film has made just over $120M, but $78M of that came from China. The Chinese run is winding down quickly, and the film is pretty much done everywhere except for this week's openings (Brazil, Spain, Japan, and a few small territories). I think $400M can happen, but if it does, it will be by less than $10M.

Doesn't Catching Fire have a chance at an overseas explosion like Twilight had with its sequel?

While an increase overseas definitely would not be surprising, I don't think it will be a 100% increase like Twilight. The Hunger Games was much bigger coming out the gate than Twilight was.
 

megamerican

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Saw both Elysium and We're the Millers. Glad they're both doing reasonably well. The marketing was not very good for Elysium. D9 had awesome ads because it left you wondering what it was all about. Elysium's trailers basically summarize the whole plot.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Thor is opening in November though, which is unproven ground for a superhero movie. It will be interesting to see how it performs there.

It's not entirely unproven. The Incredibles was a huge success in November. That's not the same as a licensed comic book character, but still.
 

kswiston

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It's not entirely unproven. The Incredibles was a huge success in November. That's not the same as a licensed comic book character, but still.

Movie franchises that already have a following aren't as beholden to a specific opening slot for success as other films. Harry Potter and Twilight bounced around between July and November with no real difference in total gross. Thor will do fine.
 
Matt Damon's a better leading actor than the other turds we're seeing in films now

Hemsworth, Garrett Hedlund, British Garett Hedlund, Pine etc

He can act circles around these fools. Elysium's lukewarm success was more a fault of marketing than him
 

Solo

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Great haul for Blomkamp. Hoping to see it on Wednesday.

EDIT: n/m, not-so-great haul. For some reason I read the budget AND the BO take BOTH as 30 million.
 

Kusagari

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Just saw this on Wikipedia.

A sequel, titled Planes: Fire & Rescue, is scheduled for theatrical release on July 18, 2014.[14][54] Bobs Gannaway, the director of Secret of the Wings, will direct the film. Dane Cook, who will reprise his role of Dusty, will be joined by Julie Bowen as the voice of Lil Dipper.[55] Rather than publish an Art of book for Planes, Chronicle Books will publish The Art of Planes 1 & 2 to coincide with the release of the sequel.[56]

The official synopsis reads: "Planes: Fire & Rescue features a quirky crew of elite firefighting aircraft devoted to protecting historic Piston Peak National Park from a raging wildfire. When world famous air racer Dusty learns that his engine is damaged and he may never race again, he must shift gears and is launched into the world of wildfire air attack. Dusty joins forces with veteran fire and rescue helicopter Blade Ranger and his courageous air attack team, including spirited super scooper Lil Dipper, heavy-lift helicopter Windlifter, ex-military transport Cabbie and a lively bunch of brave all-terrain vehicles known as The Smokejumpers. Together, the fearless team battles a massive wildfire, and Dusty learns what it takes to become a true hero."

Milk dat cow, Disney.
 

TJ Bennett

TJ Hooker
Great haul for Blomkamp. Hoping to see it on Wednesday.

EDIT: n/m, not-so-great haul. For some reason I read the budget AND the BO take BOTH as 30 million.

Prepare for disappointment.

$30 million opening weekend with little competition and a bad Cinemascore does not bode well for profitability. It should have a big drop next weekend.
 

mooooose

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Let's see the marketing budget. Let's see the WW numbers. Let's see Planes 2's numbers. Already in production, it'll do worse than Planes 1. The whole thing is a dud. Just because it had a low budget and was supposed to be a direct to video doesn't mean shit at this point anymore.
 

kswiston

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Let's see the marketing budget. Let's see the WW numbers. Let's see Planes 2's numbers. Already in production, it'll do worse than Planes 1. The whole thing is a dud. Just because it had a low budget and was supposed to be a direct to video doesn't mean shit at this point anymore.

Yes it does. The movie is just around to act as advertising for merchandise. Disney spent $100M making and marketing a 90 minute commercial to sell toys, and people are paying them for the privilege to see it.

Cars Merchandise sold over $10B between the first and second film. Who knows where it's at now, but Planes clearly exists to add more characters to that universe.
 

mooooose

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The Pixar name clearly has a lot of weight and this is seen as a total B rate movie by even the public. It didn't fool anyone.
 

kswiston

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The Pixar name clearly has a lot of weight and this is seen as a total B rate movie by even the public. It didn't fool anyone.

It's doing better than Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which had a similar origin as a straight to DVD feature. This movie had 1/4 the budget of a Pixar flick and was released in the middle of August. What were you expecting it to make?

EDIT: The fact that several people here didn't even know Planes existed until this thread tells you how much they spend on marketing compared to something like Monsters University.
 

Jimrpg

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At this point in time - the wider movie going audience don't really want any new IPs.... its almost like its they are protective of their money and don't want to spend money on things they don't know about.

Generally speaking of course...

Seems you have to write a book or comic first and grow your audience that way...
 

DarkFlow

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The real news here is that some people actually went to see Percy.

Regardless, could have been worse for Elysium, no? Still a good chance of it making profit worldwide. Seems everything is underperforming this Summer outside of Adam Sandler's movie of the year.
What's wrong Percy? Our 8 year old is reading the books right now and loves them and can't wait to see the movie. Just because it's not in your taste does not make it amazing that people went to see it.
 

Kusagari

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The Pixar name clearly has a lot of weight and this is seen as a total B rate movie by even the public. It didn't fool anyone.

And? It was supposed to be seen as a B-Movie. It was a DTV flick that Disney decided to test in theaters. It is going to easily make its budget back in theaters, do gangbusters on video and create even more merchandise for Disney to sell with the Cars brand.

You're probably the only person on the planet who would consider it a failure.
 
It's doing better than Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which had a similar origin as a straight to DVD feature. This movie had 1/4 the budget of a Pixar flick and was released in the middle of August. What were you expecting it to make?

EDIT: The fact that several people here didn't even know Planes existed until this thread tells you how much they spend on marketing compared to something like Monsters University.

Clone Wars was not going dtv, it was even lower than that, it was the TV shows first three pilot episodes.
 

DarkFlow

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Someone caught feelings!! lol
What? I have feeling now over a movie I myself really don't care all that much about? I'm just tired of idiots in here throwing out "bomba" when they clearly have no clue what they are talking about. If something does not register in someone's little bubble of interested it's automatically a bomb. Look at moooooose up there calling planes a bomb after it's already made half it's budget in one damn weekend. This thread has turned to shit lately when everyone just yelling bomba and having no clue what they are saying.
 

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