To be fair most of the big successes she's in would have been big successes without her. She's fine as an actress and I like her overall but I doubt most people who watched Avatar, Star Trek, Guardians Of The Galaxy and anything else she's in were interested due to her involvement.
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Wkd Box Office 1218-2015 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m
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To be fair most of the big successes she's in would have been big successes without her. She's fine as an actress and I like her overall but I doubt most people who watched Avatar, Star Trek, Guardians Of The Galaxy and anything else she's in were interested due to her involvement.
Bobby Roberts
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That's the one that kinda hurts.
It's funny cause some people thought audiences would be turned off by the fact that it follows a lot of the same beats as ANH.
I guess the lesson is if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If it hits $1B, it will probably be over A New Hope in attendance for that initial 1977 to mid 1978 run (Star Wars was re-launched in the summers of 1978 and 1979). I'd have to do a rough breakdown of the large format and 3D premiums, but it would be close.
A New Hope's initial run adjusts to about $800M using the current average ticket price. The Force Awakens' average ticket price isn't the annual average of $8.35 though.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Just looked at the studio data and my god, what happened to Paramount? Ever since they no longer distribute DWA and Marvel films their box-office track record has been terrible.
Thank god they have Transformers.
Thank god they have Transformers.
Carrie Fisher and her dog were the best thing about the press tour.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I even saw Cars 2 in theaters and I had no interest in this one. You would think Pixar + Dinos would be a slam dunk, but then they went for this Yoshi looking nonsense. Would have been the perfect film to get the ball rolling on feathered dinosaurs
Or possibly that would have put the grosses under $50M lol
ElBoxyBrown
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But also do something new. I don't want Lucas' original trilogy to be some default guide to making a good SW movie. We had many years of other writers doing interesting stories with the IP. The next movie has to branch out.
The Good Dinosaur won't even beat Dinosaur (2000) unadjusted. It might lose Worldwide too (again unadjusted).
ElBoxyBrown
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Let's all have a moment of silence for In the Heart of the Sea.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Oh goddamn, what a depressing comparison lol. Honestly, I just hope the studio learns lessons from Inside Out rather than TGD, which is that an original can still be bigger than a sequel if it's backed up by the quality. I have no doubt TGD could have done double its gross if it got the reviews Inside Out did. Either way, Pixar will probably be disappearing down the sequel hole forever if the Dia de los Muertos film tanks.
One last comment for tonight. It's looking pretty likely that 4 out of the 5 most attended initial runs in domestic movie history will be E.T., Titanic, Star Wars, and Star Wars: TFA (perhaps in that order).
After that, I can't tell if Jaws, Jurassic Park, or Avatar takes the other spot. Probably Jurassic Park, since I would guess that Jaws also had undocumented re-releases in the 70s, and Avatar's average ticket price probably won't end up being that much lower than TFA's.
After that, I can't tell if Jaws, Jurassic Park, or Avatar takes the other spot. Probably Jurassic Park, since I would guess that Jaws also had undocumented re-releases in the 70s, and Avatar's average ticket price probably won't end up being that much lower than TFA's.
QuantumZebra
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That picture is my everything now
Discotheque
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adam driver and oscar isaac were already well on their way to explode in films anyways, with or without star wars their career has been on this upwards trajectory (hell as of 2015 I'd say Isaac is one of the most talented actors out there). domnhall gleeson also has been having a pretty fruitful career.
maybe boyega and ridley will get some more push though after star wars. i dunno yet it's hard to tell, I love the hell out of boyega in attack the block and now this but he doesn't really seem to have that big boy swagger that Michael B Jordan has, and minority roles are so damn hard to come by sadly enough. it will be an uphill battle for him.
Ridley can maybe carve out a career similar to keira knightley or portman.
maybe boyega and ridley will get some more push though after star wars. i dunno yet it's hard to tell, I love the hell out of boyega in attack the block and now this but he doesn't really seem to have that big boy swagger that Michael B Jordan has, and minority roles are so damn hard to come by sadly enough. it will be an uphill battle for him.
Ridley can maybe carve out a career similar to keira knightley or portman.
There actually are feathered dinosaurs in the movie (dromaeosaurids), but like every other dinosaur in the movie they look butt ugly.
It's bizarre how unappealing the dinosaur designs in the movie are.
seriously she looks so good she pulls off blue lipstick
it makes me sadder she's only playing mo-cap
Discotheque
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it's bizarre how old lupita sounds as that character. hell even in interviews she has a speech that feels 30 years beyond her.
looking like a star wars force awakens collection covergirl model in that pic, so fine.
looking like a star wars force awakens collection covergirl model in that pic, so fine.
Indeed, and shes a great actress. Quite annoyed they opted for Maz to be a CGI orange blob. Think the scenes would have worked better with her just as herself.
Oscar Isaac has been killing it since his role in Drive. He's been consistently good and while Star Wars is easily his biggest movie he had a following for a while now. He'll do fine.
The rest I'm not sure about. Not a knock their talent, presence or whatever else you want to bring up. I'm honestly not sure where their career will go from there. While Isaac will probably keep doing his indie films and make interesting choices, staying in the public(or mostly filmbuff) eye.
The rest I'm not sure about. Not a knock their talent, presence or whatever else you want to bring up. I'm honestly not sure where their career will go from there. While Isaac will probably keep doing his indie films and make interesting choices, staying in the public(or mostly filmbuff) eye.
Futurematic
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So alternate history version, if the prequels were fantastically reviewed and everyone loved them (yes sure Lucas replaced by lizard or what not): how big is Star Wars now?
CreepingFear
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I look at it this way: Without the prequels sucking, I don't think George would have sold LucasFilm and I don't think we would have gotten Episodes 7,8, and 9. I'm grateful for the prequels sucking. Thanks George. My only regret is that we didn't get 7,8,9 around 93 or 94. At that time, we might have gotten a trilogy with Han, Luke, and Leia young enough to be the main focus. But that would have sucked too with George at the helm.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Well, it would have at least made the extra $2M on OW to hit a round 250.
I personally find myself wondering if a Star Wars sequel with the original cast in '99 could have beaten Titanic.
I actually think this wouldn't have done as well as it is. The reception of the prequels fueled the anticipation and desires to return to the OT era with the OT cast. The idea for many that there hasn't been a gold Star Wars film in over 30 years and this will be what they had wanted all this time added a lot to the hype.
TFA would have been hyped but not nearly this hyped if everyone loved the prequels.
I love the dude but there was already a lot of signs of George Lucas becoming the George Lucas of the past 15 years as early as 1983. The burping goofy muppets at Jabbas, Ewoks, and so on. His style of the prequels was already starting to poke it's way through in Jedi. I am sure it would be very apparent in a sequel trilogy in the mid-90s.
George Lucas is who he is, doing it early wouldn't have changed much.
PhoncipleBone
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Pattinson is going the opposite way. He is doing smaller stuff that he wants to do, or working with people he wants to. Shit, he has worked with Cronenberg twice and also done stuff like The Rover and worked with Anton Corbijn.
In interviews he doesn't seem to like all the notoriety and attention of being a huge star, so he will probably just stick to the stuff he wants to do instead of blockbusters.
Late on this one, but Lupita the goddess. She always looks killer in her public appearances, and she is rocking the shit out of that blue lipstick.
ViewtifulJC
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A lot of TFA's ultimate critical reception is gonna rest on Episode VIII I think. Was this just them getting them back on track for Rian Johnson do something new and exciting now that they've rehashed the OT, or is this the start of the world's most expensive fanfiction?
ViewtifulJC
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Lord, you wanna talk about a boring ass movie. 10 year old wanted his time and money back.
Disney's marketing game is too strong? Illegally strong? Cuz Star Wars? I don't know. I didn't understand when Furious 7 grossed 1.5 billion and I undertood shit even less when Jurassic World crawled its way to even higher numbers.
Isn't this basically just saying it will make more than Avengers + Ant-Man? What other superhero movies even came out this year? The Fantastic Four debacle, I guess.
If Disney's marketing is so strong that does not explain why the marketing on Ultron was as terrible as it was. Seriously, the beyond boring trailers and tv spots had to do something with the hit in box office it took. The marketing on it was shockingly bad.
Three out of four of the biggest movies this year have plot beats that are heavily reminiscent of their predecessors, and of those three, their success compared to each other correlates directly with how long its been since the movies they're emulating.
PhoncipleBone
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Or maybe people just didn't like Age of Ultron as much as they did the first Avengers, so less people saw it in the US.
That wouldn't explain why the opening weekend numbers fell short of what it was tracking to do and widely expected to do, no one had seen it yet so no WOM to spread. I really think the poor marketing is to blame at least when it came to the OW.
Charles Foster Kane
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Who names their fucking daughter Jedi?
Something I learned today. It's happened.
Something I learned today. It's happened.
PhoncipleBone
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The preview showings were bigger than the first film, and the first day overall was huge. It was the days after that that it started to fall under the first one. WOM usually sets in after the first weekend, but it still could have played into the first Saturday being down. Enough people seeing it on Friday and saying it wasn't as good as the original.
Even if it fell short of tracking, it was the #2 opening of all time when it hit. Still impressive, even if the movie disappointed.
Spiritreaver
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Did you stumble upon Chris Pirillo? I love that guy.
Escape Goat
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One of Bobby Robert's co-hosts on his Star Wars podcast named his son Anakin.
PhoncipleBone
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Let's not start the old man party again. (gets my cane and shakily walks to the kitchen)
The gimmick of seeing a bunch of disparate superheroes together was over plus a bit of franchise fatigue I guess. Episode VII is riding the ten years since a Star Wars movie lightning right now. The sequel will no doubt suffer a massive drop.
Tracking isn't nearly as reliable in the higher ranges.
I do agree though that the marketing was misguided. They showed way too much. The better than expected mayweather draw also provably had an effect too.
JimmyRustler
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I just wonder if it does so good in the box office because it is that good or because the prequels were so bad....
VistraNorrez
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Kasdan might have wanted to write those scripts. He didn't help Lucas with the prequels because that story didn't interest him. Kershner also expressed interest in directing another Star Wars. He might have directed a prequel if Lucas started on them sooner.
The Clone Wars show is excellent, and has some of the best stories in all of Star Wars, and GL helmed that whole thing. But much like the original trilogy he brought in wonderful talent to work the day to day production while he oversaw the story and advised whenever the crew needed him. I think, even still, that would be my ideal situation for new Star Wars.
Ignatz Mouse
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Age of Ultron doesn't really repeat the Avengers plot in any significant way.
The first Saturday coincided with the Mayweather fight, the Kentucky Derby, NBA and NHL playoff games, and a few high profile baseball games. Sunday predictably fell because there was less momentum off the back of Saturday, but Sunday actually performed better than expected after the weaker Saturday iirc.
It repeats a lot of the same beats though, which I think was an issue. It was a common complaint among reviews.
Charles Foster Kane
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