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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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kswiston

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So we are taken back down to reality a bit, but that reality is still seeing the second record fall by 40m.

In light of the Friday increase I don't see as big a Saturday increase as Avatar for TFA either. 51m should translate until an opening of around 150m give or take 5M.
 
So we are taken back down to reality a bit, but that reality is still seeing the second record fall by 40m.

In light of the Friday increase I don't see as big a Saturday increase as Avatar for TFA either. 51m should translate until an opening of around 150m give or take 5M.
I think it's possible a lot of Christmas gift cards about to be spent !!
 
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Cheebo

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Then next year Star wars gets bopped by Batman v Superman: champion edition, which will make 300 bajillion dollars.

Count on it.

Maybe.

Most of the time.
That is a bet no one will be willing to make. The high end of the super hero genre is much much lower than the high-end for Star Wars. If BvS breaks through and is a full on Avengers level film on the scale of the first Avengers that is still nowhere near being at a Star Wars or Avatar level.

And honestly I just do not sense a ton of crazy hype for BvS lately. Each showing of SW I see the Cap trailer always plays better it seems.

My gut feeling is Civil War will be the bigger film of the two.
 

tomtom94

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That is a bet no one will be willing to make. The high end of the super hero genre is much much lower than the high-end for Star Wars. If BvS breaks through and is a full on Avengers level film on the scale of the first Avdngers that is still nowhere near being at a Star Wars or Avatar level.

And honestly I just do not sense a ton of crazy hype for BvS lately. Each showing of SW I see the Cap trailer always plays better it seems.

My gut feeling is Civil War will be the bigger film of the two.

Even as a Marvel fanboy I'm expecting Batman v Superman to outgross Civil War. The first DC on-screen team-up just feels like more of an event than Civil War does right now. (Then again, Marvel might knock it out of the park with the marketing)
 

rjinaz

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That is a bet no one will be willing to make. The high end of the super hero genre is much much lower than the high-end for Star Wars. If BvS breaks through and is a full on Avengers level film on the scale of the first Avdngers that is still nowhere near being at a Star Wars or Avatar level.

And honestly I just do not sense a ton of crazy hype for BvS lately. Each showing of SW I see the Cap trailer always plays better it seems.

My gut feeling is Civil War will be the bigger film of the two.

BvS is going to do pretty well. But yeah, I don't think it touches Avengers on the all time list. I bet the Justice League movie does though. Possibly...
 
Even as a Marvel fanboy I'm expecting Batman v Superman to outgross Civil War. The first DC on-screen team-up just feels like more of an event than Civil War does right now. (Then again, Marvel might knock it out of the park with the marketing)

i'm going to eat a hat if BvS makes more money than Civil War.
 

Cheebo

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I think both BvS and Cap will top 300 mil domestic but Marvel has built up a huge audience overseas, that is where Cap will win it even if BvS edges it out domestically.
 

RonnocTheRed

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Even as a Marvel fanboy I'm expecting Batman v Superman to outgross Civil War. The first DC on-screen team-up just feels like more of an event than Civil War does right now. (Then again, Marvel might knock it out of the park with the marketing)

I want to see BvS more than I do Civil War (still excited about that one, though), however I'll be rather surprised if it outdraws it even domestically. If BvS works, I think Justice League might have a chance of being serious box office competition to Marvel, but not just yet.
 

Cheebo

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Im not feeling the BvS hype. I think it will underperform on the box office. That last trailer was bad.
That's the gut feeling I had. That last trailer just fell flat it feels like. Civil War just feels like it has the hype far more. And I say that as someone who is more a DC guy than a Marvel guy.
 

Cheebo

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The Doomsday stuff just looked awful and just so amateur hour cgi baddie stuff. Reminded me of the marketing for Incredible Hulk, which is not a good thing.


I am curious to see if Rogue One can pull the #1 domestic title next year. Having Darth Vader in the trailers played by James Earl Jones is going to get asses in the seats.
 

ArmGunar

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BvS will bomb hard, at least in Europe.

Not so sure, if the film is good
It will hit 700M overseas (big markets like UK'll reach 60M ; France 25M ; Germany 15-20M ; Italy 10M ; Spain 10M)

For comparison:

Country - Man of Steel - Avengers 2
UK -----------46M ------------76.6M
France -------21M ------------34.2M
Germany -----10M -----------31.2M
Italy ----------6.1M -----------18.1M
Spain --------10M ------------8M
 

Interfectum

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The Doomsday stuff just looked awful and just so amateur hour cgi baddie stuff. Reminded me of the marketing for Incredible Hulk, which is not a good thing.


I am curious to see if Rogue One can pull the #1 domestic title next year. Having Darth Vader in the trailers played by James Earl Jones is going to get asses in the seats.

I'm really looking forward to Rogue One now. I hope they don't fuck it up and deflate hype for episode 8.
 
Yeah I don't see BvS doing too well either. At this point having a bunch of superheros together on screen is kind of getting old. Avengers did well because it was the first time multiple heroes together on screen was perfectly executed. If anything BvS looks kind of silly and painfully obvious they're chasing the MCU money (that Wonder Woman showing up killed me hahahaha)

Hopefully we go back to the singular superhero movie glory days of Spider-Man 2, The Dark Knight, etc.
 

ArmGunar

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We had single super-hero, then team-up and now I hope we'll get a duo :D

That rumor about Green Lantern/Flash team-up was so exciting !
 
I think superhero fatigue might start to set in too. Not to say the DC/Marvel movies still won't make bank (and the same thing will happen to Star Wars once Disney stars pumping out a movie every year) but I think we may have reached the ceiling on super hero movies.
 

Oddduck

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I think superhero fatigue might start to set in too. Not to say the DC/Marvel movies still won't make bank (and the same thing will happen to Star Wars once Disney stars pumping out a movie every year) but I think we may have reached the ceiling on super hero movies.

Absolutely, and it's not just the movies that will cause superhero fatigue.

Part of the blame also goes to comic book TV shows like Supergirl, The Flash, Daredevil, Jessica Jones.

We didn't have all of these comic book TV shows when movies like The Dark Knight and Iron Man came out.
 

Leonsito

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Not so sure, if the film is good
It will hit 700M overseas (big markets like UK'll reach 60M ; France 25M ; Germany 15-20M ; Italy 10M ; Spain 10M)

For comparison:

Country - Man of Steel - Avengers 2
UK -----------46M ------------76.6M
France -------21M ------------34.2M
Germany -----10M -----------31.2M
Italy ----------6.1M -----------18.1M
Spain --------10M ------------8M

As you said, if the film is good. I guess it all depends on the marketing, so far the trailers have been bad, and at least in Spain outside of a couple of forums no one knows about the movie at this point, Europe is Marvel-country.
 

bionic77

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I think superhero fatigue might start to set in too. Not to say the DC/Marvel movies still won't make bank (and the same thing will happen to Star Wars once Disney stars pumping out a movie every year) but I think we may have reached the ceiling on super hero movies.
The next Batman movie looks horrible. If that underperforms it will because it was a turd.

The Avengers and most of the Marvel movies cast such a wide net that they will continue to do find as long as the movies remains decent to good. At least until the kids latch onto something else to replace them. I think they have a ways to go before they run out of stories.
 

border

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I think superhero fatigue might start to set in too. Not to say the DC/Marvel movies still won't make bank (and the same thing will happen to Star Wars once Disney stars pumping out a movie every year) but I think we may have reached the ceiling on super hero movies.

We've probably reached the ceiling on Star Wars movies as well. No future film will have the pent-up demand of a 10+ year wait, plus the return of Han Solo, Leia, & Luke.

Disney is never going to put Star Wars on hiatus like Lucasfilm essentially did for 20-30 years, so future releases will not be as big of a deal.
 

Kuros

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Yes this has been the perfect storm. The return of the OT cast and the film actually being good after the not well thought of prequels.

There will also never be a big gap between films again.
 

strafer

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Yes this has been the perfect storm. The return of the OT cast and the film actually being good after the not well thought of prequels.

The OT cast has nothing to do with the success, the movie would have worked without them.

Also, we finally have a competent director.
 

Nibel

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We've probably reached the ceiling on Star Wars movies as well. No future film will have the pent-up demand of a 10+ year wait, plus the return of Han Solo, Leia, & Luke.

Disney is never going to put Star Wars on hiatus like Lucasfilm essentially did for 20-30 years, so future releases will not be as big of a deal.

Don't sequels most of the time perform much better?
 
Yes this has been the perfect storm. The return of the OT cast and the film actually being good after the not well thought of prequels.

There will also never be a big gap between films again.

I really hope after 9 is finished they don't come out with 10 like 3 years later. There's something magical about the series only being on number 7 after almost 40 years
 
The OT cast has nothing to do with the success, the movie would have worked without them.

Also, we finally have a competent director.

The movie would not have worked without Han.

But, seeing the old characters again was a big deal. The film would have been a hit either way.
 

rjinaz

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I really hope after 9 is finished they don't come out with 10 like 3 years later. There's something magical about the series only being on number 7 after almost 40 years

Got to disagree. I'd rather Star Wars not be as magical than having to wait until I'm like 60 to see the next one (32 now). Could be dead by then who knows!
 
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