PhoncipleBone
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The fact that it is going to beat the already insane record is a feat in itself. I think they just got a little too excited after seeing the weekday numbers.
I just wonder how it will behave next week.
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Wkd Box Office 1218-2015 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m
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The fact that it is going to beat the already insane record is a feat in itself. I think they just got a little too excited after seeing the weekday numbers.
I just wonder how it will behave next week.
I don't like the ST universe, the tech wasn't nearly as cool, the characters wernt as creative (im not an expert, speaking as a bystander) and there was so much material, so many threads to consume (as opposed to 3 SW movies) it just wasnt accessible. There was also the stigma of hardcore geeks associated to it as a child. While SW is geeky it had a sense of cool ST never achieved, SW hype was everywhere and that helped, at least for me growing up. And the Force as a concept was, if you'd obsess about it, something you could take home and get lost with. Thought that was really powerful for a lot of fans.Granted the only Star Trek stuff I've seen is the JJ movies, but I didn't get the huge success gap between ST and SW.
Star Wars is just so big. Pop culture eats it up.
JJ ST films were a great way of opening that universe to new comers and I enjoyed his films, but it still doesn't hold a candle to SW for me.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I am pretty literally just a day or two you said something along the lines of: Holy shit this might actually do 50 mil on Christmas.
Which was because 50 was just a pipe dream and then we get high on crazy predictions and start getting mad when it doesn't triple every single daily all time record and instead only doubles the Christmas record.
The fact many on box office forums would see this as a major disappointment if this does 900 mil domestically and not a billion is pretty telling how absurd this has gotten.
And we've already done this particular dance at LEAST once when it came to the opening weekend, too. It was one of the bigger worries surrounding the movie in here, I believe: That irresponsible writers chasing stupid-sounding headlines would set the bar so high (Ultron style) that even crushing records would come off as disappointing.
I guess. I guess you can compare the TF viewers to Marvel movie viewers. They don't give a shit about the franchise outside the movies I guess?
I guess no matter what they'll eat up the sequels like fish. Dopey sheep fish.
I think the difference is for most MCU and Bayformers fans these live action films did not come out till they were already adults or teens. The nostalgia for the brand is there but not this actual live action "canon". There is no nostalgia standards at play like there is with the OT with Star Wars. There is no gold standard to judge against that if it doesn't match up they will tear it to shreds ala the prequels. They are just happy to see a Captain America or Optimis Prime on screen live action and will take anything they can get.
Harry Potter is similar. Some of the film adaptions are downright embarrassing as stand alone movies from a script and story telling perspective if you are not readers the books, which should never be the case when it comes to novel adaptions. But it's Pottsr, on screen! So fans will take what they can get.
RastaMentality
Banned
I've always wondered why their highest grossing animated movie of all time (adjusted), Lion King, only got 2 shitty DTV sequels and not an actual budgeted one. But I guess it makes sense since Lion King 2 made $450 million fucking dollars. and 1.5 made $55m in 3 days. And they cost peanuts to make.the kids needed to see Return of Jafar more than anything.
And it was such a trash rip-off of the first movie with worse animation, songs, and creativity. But it made a shitload of money, and that's all that mattered in the end to ensure a line of terrible Disney DTV films
All of that DTV sequel shenanigans actually makes sense now. Frozen will still most likely get a proper released sequel though.
BronsonLee
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Lion King 2 made $450 million fucking dollars.
Holy SHIT
I've always wondered why their highest grossing animated movie of all time (adjusted), Lion King, only got 2 shitty DTV sequels and not an actual budgeted one. But I guess it makes sense since Lion King 2 made $450 million fucking dollars. and 1.5 made $55m in 3 days. And they cost peanuts to make.
They need to take it out of their damn vault so I can give them more money for Lion King.
RastaMentality
Banned
Holy SHIT
I reallllyyy wanna know how Disney does this shit.In September 2001, it was reported that Simba's Pride had sold more than 15 million copies. Overall, consumer spending on The Lion King II: Simba's Pride accumulated about $300 million roughly the same figure of its predecessor's theatrical release at that time, and continues to be one of the top-selling direct-to-video release of all time, with $464.5 million worldwide in sales and rentals.
Its always a little funny to me how 10 years later Shrek 2 is still the biggest CG movie domestically at $441m.
Shrek 2
Frozen 2 might pass this but who knows. After seeing how massive Lion King is (along with the massive Broadway plays), I wonder if a proper lion king 2 in the early 2000s could've made that much cash.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I reallllyyy wanna know how Disney does this shit.
DID that shit, actually. Late 90s/early 2000s, that Direct To Video practice, while making them assloads of money, was also seen to have been one of the biggest aspects of their brand's devaluing in the eyes of consumers.
The practice largely ceased shortly after Lasseter got in there.
Two random notes: Today's TFA US gross will put it over Phantom Menace final US figure, and park it at #6 on the US box office chart. In 9 days.
Thing two, while it's generally true that sequels do worse than the originals, there are exceptions. Each film in the Lord of the Rings films made more than the next, in both the US and internationally. Star Wars is highly unlikely to repeat that pattern given the enormous pent up demand for a non-ass sequel, though.
Thing two, while it's generally true that sequels do worse than the originals, there are exceptions. Each film in the Lord of the Rings films made more than the next, in both the US and internationally. Star Wars is highly unlikely to repeat that pattern given the enormous pent up demand for a non-ass sequel, though.
Two random notes: Today's TFA US gross will put it over Phantom Menace final US figure, and park it at #6 on the US box office chart. In 9 days.
Thing two, while it's generally true that sequels do worse than the originals, there are exceptions. Each film in the Lord of the Rings films made more than the next, in both the US and internationally. Star Wars is highly unlikely to repeat that pattern given the enormous pent up demand for a non-ass sequel, though.
That is crazy. Hype for that movie was crazy.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Joy had quite a good opening with $6.85m
That's a bigger first day than American Hustle had last year, although that had a week in limited release before it went wide
Jennifer Lawrence proving that shes one of the few actors out there that can open a movie on their name
That's a bigger first day than American Hustle had last year, although that had a week in limited release before it went wide
Jennifer Lawrence proving that shes one of the few actors out there that can open a movie on their name
BattleMonkey
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It will be basically impossible for episode VIII to top TFA, if for no other reason than that TFA is probably going to get very close to the theoretical max for domestic box office.
Tease Boba Fett in trailer. BOOM, bank!
BronsonLee
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It will be basically impossible for episode VIII to top TFA, if for no other reason than that TFA is probably going to get very close to the theoretical max for domestic box office.
Disney: Oh, wow, look China, Donnie Yen just got into Episode VIII too somehow because fuck it, I dunno
China: $$$$$$
RastaMentality
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Yeah and the trailer barely had any plot. It was basically a showcase of her acting the entire time. My friends and I saw the trailer before spotlight and everyone was asking "what the fuck is that movie even about?"Joy had quite a good opening with $6.85m
That's a bigger first day than American Hustle had last year, although that had a week in limited release before it went wide
Jennifer Lawrence proving that shes one of the few actors out there that can open a movie on their name
Its always a little funny to me how 10 years later Shrek 2 is still the biggest CG movie domestically at $441m.
Shrek 2
Shrek got so huge. It was EVERYWHERE.
Here in Latin America it was incredibly popular.
In Poland TFA didn't Shrek the Third's opening attendance.
Granted the movie dropped hard after bad wom, but the hell.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Disney: "Oh look, we got some popular Chinese idol to make a cameo."Disney: Oh, wow, look China, Donnie Yen just got into Episode VIII too somehow because fuck it, I dunno
China: $$$$$$
China: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I can't even begin to imagine how Ridley and Boyega are feeling right now in terms of witnessing themselves be box office record breakers from relative unknowness
Considering what happened to Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Hayden Christensen, and Ewan McGregor, I imagine they are keeping their expectations firmly in check.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Considering what happened to Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Hayden Christensen, and Ewan McGregor, I imagine they are keeping their expectations firmly in check.
Nothing really "happened" to those people. Fisher didn't really want to act all that much in the first place (She's a writer, first and foremost, which is what she ended up doing, primarily). Hamill & Christensen's careers went sideways for a little bit (Hamill recovered pretty nicely) and McGregor's never not been fine.
The Last One
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According to the Box Office Mojo the total gross for the movie as of now is: $890,295,329
1 billion by monday?
1 billion by monday?
According to the Box Office Mojo the total gross for the movie as of now is: $890,295,329
1 billion by monday?
Yeah for sure. Maybe tomorrow.
According to the Box Office Mojo the total gross for the movie as of now is: $890,295,329
1 billion by monday?
It will be at 1.3 billion WW by Monday
Aaron Strife
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After seeing The Lion King 3D make oodles of cash for a limited engagement I was kind of hoping that would encourage Disney to return to hand-drawn in theaters, even if it were in the form of a sequel to something. They did make a Lion King TV movie, but that's a bit of a stretch. Oh well.I reallllyyy wanna know how Disney does this shit.
Frozen 2 might pass this but who knows. After seeing how massive Lion King is (along with the massive Broadway plays), I wonder if a proper lion king 2 in the early 2000s could've made that much cash.
Yeah, McGregor was doing damn fine before the prequels and has done just swell after them. I think everyone tries to compare everyone to Ford in terms of their bankability, and that's so unfair since the vast majority of non-Star Wars actors aren't even on that level.Nothing really "happened" to those people. Fisher didn't really want to act all that much in the first place (She's a writer, first and foremost, which is what she ended up doing, primarily). Hamill & Christensen's careers went sideways for a little bit (Hamill recovered pretty nicely) and McGregor's never not been fine.
Christensen is the only one who really went down the tubes, and that tends to be what happens when you have all the charm of a troglodyte serial killer.
The Last One
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Yeah for sure. Maybe tomorrow.
It will be at 1.3 billion WW by Monday
Star Wars is a beast.
Nothing really "happened" to those people. Fisher didn't really want to act all that much in the first place (She's a writer, first and foremost, which is what she ended up doing, primarily). Hamill & Christensen's careers went sideways for a little bit (Hamill recovered pretty nicely) and McGregor's never not been fine.
I'm not sure if I would qualify Wing Commander games and voice acting gigs as a great recovery for someone who starred in the highest grossing film of all-time, but that's neither here nor there.
None of them continued to get leading roles in a Hollywood tentpole pictures. They've all had respectable careers and never wound up doing infomercials or anything.....but aside from Harrison Ford, Star Wars has always been much bigger than its leading actors. I mostly just meant that Boyega and Ridley probably shouldn't be imagining $10M paychecks in their future, not that they will be cleaning toilets or anything.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Not only is trying to compare every Star Wars actor's success to Harrison Ford's sorta unfair in terms of Star Wars, but in terms of acting in general. Dude was pretty much the single biggest movie star in Hollywood - TWICE.
Two of them did, and those two didn't seem to be exclusively pursuing that as their primary career path anyway.
Boyega and Ridley are likely going to get to do whatever the fuck they want for awhile, like McGregor did. He didn't "fail" at scoring whatever picture he wanted (and doing well in those pictures) he basically took the financial security as an opportunity to actually pursue all the shit he wanted to do. So did Fisher, really.
I said "pretty nicely," though, not "great," so like...
Basically, your whole point is pretty silly. Like there's only one possible career path out of Star Wars and if you don't track with it, you somehow fucked it up. Especially when the career path you're using as a measuring stick is a career path 99.95% of actors, PERIOD, have never even closely approximated.
None of them continued to get leading roles in a Hollywood tentpole pictures.
Two of them did, and those two didn't seem to be exclusively pursuing that as their primary career path anyway.
Boyega and Ridley are likely going to get to do whatever the fuck they want for awhile, like McGregor did. He didn't "fail" at scoring whatever picture he wanted (and doing well in those pictures) he basically took the financial security as an opportunity to actually pursue all the shit he wanted to do. So did Fisher, really.
I'm not sure if I would qualify Wing Commander games and voice acting gigs as a great recovery
I said "pretty nicely," though, not "great," so like...
Basically, your whole point is pretty silly. Like there's only one possible career path out of Star Wars and if you don't track with it, you somehow fucked it up. Especially when the career path you're using as a measuring stick is a career path 99.95% of actors, PERIOD, have never even closely approximated.
ViewtifulJC
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all this McGregor talks reminds me that he was in the Ghost Writer... god that was such a good film
shoutout to Pierce Brosnan in that movie
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Yeah and the trailer barely had any plot. It was basically a showcase of her acting the entire time. My friends and I saw the trailer before spotlight and everyone was asking "what the fuck is that movie even about?"
Yeah they played the trailer before TFA and my friend had the same reaction
I'm gonna watch it purely for Lawrence
BronsonLee
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Disney: "Oh look, we got some popular Chinese idol to make a cameo."
China: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Transformers 4 was basically this with that Chinese assistant, the random dude in the elevator who whooped that ass, and the entire finale being set there
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
China got an extra scene for Iron Man 3 with two(?) famous Chinese actors and some product placement.Transformers 4 was basically this with that Chinese assistant, the random dude in the elevator who whooped that ass, and the entire finale being set there
I'm surprised they haven't brought back Lion King in the form of Frozen-esque CG animation.
Their strategy seems to be:
1. Revive classic animated films in live action (Cinderella, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book)
2. Completely new IP for their CG animation (Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph)
3. RIP in peace hand-drawn animation
Their strategy seems to be:
1. Revive classic animated films in live action (Cinderella, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book)
2. Completely new IP for their CG animation (Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph)
3. RIP in peace hand-drawn animation
Not only is trying to compare every Star Wars actor's success to Harrison Ford's sorta unfair in terms of Star Wars, but in terms of acting in general. Dude was pretty much the single biggest movie star in Hollywood - TWICE.
Two of them did, and those two didn't seem to be exclusively pursuing that as their primary career path anyway.
Boyega and Ridley are likely going to get to do whatever the fuck they want for awhile, like McGregor did. He didn't "fail" at scoring whatever picture he wanted (and doing well in those pictures) he basically took the financial security as an opportunity to actually pursue all the shit he wanted to do. So did Fisher, really.
Ridley definitely will. But I don't have any confidence that Boyega will. Black actors/actresses simply don't have the same trajectory in Hollywood that their white counterparts do. Compare Lupita Nyong'o's career to Margot Robbie and Alicia Vikander.
RastaMentality
Banned
When you read the premise and it's actually about the woman who made the Miracle Mop. They hedged all their bets on Jlaw.Yeah they played the trailer before TFA and my friend had the same reaction
I'm gonna watch it purely for Lawrence
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
;_; Hand-drawn animation is my favourite.I'm surprised they haven't brought back Lion King in the form of Frozen-esque CG animation.
Their strategy seems to be:
1. Revive classic animated films in live action (Cinderella, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book)
2. Completely new IP for their CG animation (Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph)
3. RIP in peace hand-drawn animation
I really hope that they manage to pull off the live action Beauty and the Beast movie.
ratcliffja
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Longlivetheking.gifI'm surprised they haven't brought back Lion King in the form of Frozen-esque CG animation.
Their strategy seems to be:
1. Revive classic animated films in live action (Cinderella, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book)
2. Completely new IP for their CG animation (Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph)
3. RIP in peace hand-drawn animation
BronsonLee
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China got an extra scene for Iron Man 3 with two(?) famous Chinese actors and some product placement.
Furious 7 got RID of the Asian guy and did even better!
...wait
Eh. Daisy and John will be fine after these movies. They seem to have a good head on their shoulders and seem to have a natural charisma in interviews.
Sure these may be the movies they are most remembered for and they probably won't be top tier actors but who cares.
This is a good starting block and there is plenty of work in the field for them. Television, voice acting, etc.
Sure these may be the movies they are most remembered for and they probably won't be top tier actors but who cares.
This is a good starting block and there is plenty of work in the field for them. Television, voice acting, etc.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Ridley definitely will. But I don't have any confidence that Boyega will.
Boyega's on some mid-90s Will Smith shit right now. Finn is very reminiscent of Mike Lowry/Capt. Hiller/J type shit.
But you've been pretty consistent on maintaining a "sky is falling" tone regarding Boyega & Finn for like the past 8 months now. Not saying there isn't any reason for it, of course there is (anyone paying attention to Hollywood history knows that) but the idea that Boyega isn't basically winning pretty much everyone over right about now, both with his performance in the film AND on the press tour, seems to be a very small one.
Ninja Scooter
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Gonna pour out a little root beer in honor of The Dark Knight's last few days in the all time top 5.
I'm surprised they haven't brought back Lion King in the form of Frozen-esque CG animation.
Their strategy seems to be:
1. Revive classic animated films in live action (Cinderella, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book)
2. Completely new IP for their CG animation (Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph)
3. RIP in peace hand-drawn animation
#2 has always been the case outside of one exception (Rescuers Down Under in 1990).
And #3 is still happening on TV, Disney is producing a whole bunch of them. The new Lion Guard TV show looks absolutely stunning for a TV show.
TheDinoman
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The idea of a CG Lion King film really bothers me. Leave that film the way it is, please.
Not only is trying to compare every Star Wars actor's success to Harrison Ford's sorta unfair in terms of Star Wars, but in terms of acting in general. Dude was pretty much the single biggest movie star in Hollywood - TWICE.
Basically, your whole point is pretty silly. Like there's only one possible career path out of Star Wars and if you don't track with it, you somehow fucked it up. Especially when the career path you're using as a measuring stick is a career path 99.95% of actors, PERIOD, have never even closely approximated.
I've singled Ford out as an exception, not really a comparison. Drew Barrymore was only a child in what was at the time the second highest grossing film of all time, and even her career trajectory ended up better than Hamill, Christensen, and others who were in a better position to strike while the iron was hot.
If Boyega and Ridley wanna be Kate Winslet they can probably be Kate Winslet. But not Leonardo DiCaprio.....that's really all I'm saying.
BronsonLee
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Winslet has the Oscar though
How's it feel, Leo?!
How's it feel, Leo?!
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