CrichtonKicks
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I think they are going to have to change something up after 9. Mainly because I don't think they want to be advertising Episode XVII from a marketing standpoint down the line.
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Wkd Box Office 1218-2015 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m
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I think they are going to have to change something up after 9. Mainly because I don't think they want to be advertising Episode XVII from a marketing standpoint down the line.
Any official figure for Christmas Day yet?
$49.4m
The OT cast has nothing to do with the success, the movie would have worked without them.
Also, we finally have a competent director.
The OT cast had everything to do with the success. They've been playing on everyone's nostalgia in the marketing for years. If you took out the 3 characters, it wouldn't have done nearly as well.
Don't sequels most of the time perform much better?
Almost the opposite is true, most of the time. Sequels generally do not perform as well as the original, unless the original was a sort of low-key sleeper hit that rose to fame on the back of increased awareness through cable/DVD.
It definitely holds true for Star Wars. EP4 made more than 5 or 6. EP1 made more than 2 or 3.
Ninja Scooter
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The next Batman movie looks horrible. If that underperforms it will because it was a turd.
The Avengers and most of the Marvel movies cast such a wide net that they will continue to do find as long as the movies remains decent to good. At least until the kids latch onto something else to replace them. I think they have a ways to go before they run out of stories.
I'm not saying they won't still do well or have an audience, I'm just saying Avengers 1 might have been that ceiling. If anything the more sequels come out the smaller the audience will probably get. By the time Avengers 4 and Justice League 2 roll around the freshness will be long gone and more people will have decided where they stand with regards to those movies.
djplaeskool
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Saw Krampus with family over the holiday.
Better than i thought it would be. Really fun movie.
Better than i thought it would be. Really fun movie.
I'm not saying they won't still do well or have an audience, I'm just saying Avengers 1 might have been that ceiling. If anything the more sequels come out the smaller the audience will probably get. By the time Avengers 4 and Justice League 2 roll around the freshness will be long gone and more people will have decided where they stand with regards to those movies.
They are just out of gimmicks to push audience interest. A superhero team-up was a cool, original idea when the Avengers was released, but now every other movie is a superhero team-up. Batman/Superman and Spider-Man/Avengers are probably the absolute last superhero team-ups that can drive mainstream interest, and after this summer that already will have happened.
Unless Marvel can get the X-Men back (haha), there's just no big matchups to get excited about. Maybe Guardians of the Galaxy + Avengers? Is that definitely going to happen in Infinity War?
BronsonLee
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Disney makes weird ass choices with their franchises sometimes. They really went off the deep end in the 90s with all the sequels to their big animated movies being DTV
I really hope after 9 is finished they don't come out with 10 like 3 years later. There's something magical about the series only being on number 7 after almost 40 years
The cinematic universe structure actually benefits this if done properly. You fill the gap with spinoffs and then return to a proper episode when you have a story worthy of it. I don't see another 10+ year gap ever again though.
Whats the opening weekend bo of TPM compared to TFAThe OT cast had everything to do with the success. They've been playing on everyone's nostalgia in the marketing for years. If you took out the 3 characters, it wouldn't have done nearly as well.
Disney makes weird ass choices with their franchises sometimes. They really went off the deep end in the 90s with all the sequels to their big animated movies being DTV
Different management. Different styles of milking franchises.
BronsonLee
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Different management. Different styles of milking franchises.
Nah bruh prepare yourself for the Star Wars DTV Onslaught
Star Wars: Rogue Deux
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Almost the opposite is true, most of the time. Sequels generally do not perform as well as the original, unless the original was a sort of low-key sleeper hit that rose to fame on the back of increased awareness through cable/DVD.
It definitely holds true for Star Wars. EP4 made more than 5 or 6. EP1 made more than 2 or 3.
Yes. Sequels that are bigger, are usually bigger because the previous film didn't quite reach its full potential and grew in popularity after release.
That's why I think a sequel to Fury Road might do fine. Just give me a sequel to Fury Road!
BattleMonkey
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Disney makes weird ass choices with their franchises sometimes. They really went off the deep end in the 90s with all the sequels to their big animated movies being DTV
Well they didn't want those sequels to either compete with their mainline films either. They were cheap cash ins and nothing compared to their big screen originals.
BronsonLee
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Well they didn't want those sequels to either compete with their mainline films either. They were cheap cash ins and nothing compared to their big screen originals.
I remember hearing a number for one of the Aladdin sequels and holy shit it apparently made like 400 mil
Fucking hell
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I remember hearing a number for one of the Aladdin sequels and holy shit it apparently made like 400 mil
Fucking hell
what!?
how
ViewtifulJC
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Its always a little funny to me how 10 years later Shrek 2 is still the biggest CG movie domestically at $441m.
Shrek 2
Shrek 2
BronsonLee
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what!?
how
I'm probably remembering it wrong, but the Aladdin sequels definitely made fucking BANK. Parents didn't give a damn.
Charles Foster Kane
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Its always a little funny to me how 10 years later Shrek 2 is still the biggest CG movie domestically at $441m.
Shrek 2
Shrek got so huge. It was EVERYWHERE.
Here in Latin America it was incredibly popular.
Its always a little funny to me how 10 years later Shrek 2 is still the biggest CG movie domestically at $441m.
Shrek 2
I think Finding Dory might finally top it. I also thought Toy Story 3 would top it though.
vinnygambini
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Damn at Daddy's Home, from 20-25 OW estimates to we'll over 40 with a chance of reaching 50, who would've thought?
And a moment of silence for In the Heart of the Sea pls
And a moment of silence for In the Heart of the Sea pls
BronsonLee
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Damn at Daddy's Home, from 20-25 OW estimates to we'll over 40 with a chance of reaching 50, who would've thought?
And a moment of silence for In the Heart of the Sea pls
Heart of the Sea Has No Heart, Also No Father
alexandros
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Enjoy your moment, Star Wars fans. As soon as Star Trek Beyond is released your records are going to be shattered.
Shut up ;_;
ViewtifulJC
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Shrek got so huge. It was EVERYWHERE.
Here in Latin America it was incredibly popular.
It was all over the damn place in 2004. Can't even front, the first time I saw it as a kid I thought it was the greatest thing ever, so I was right in the wheelhouse for its fart jokes and Smashmouth
we were all 10 once guys I'm sorry
Enjoy your moment, Star Wars fans. As soon as Star Trek Beyond is released your records are going to be shattered.
Shut up ;_;
I prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Mostly because they have given me a lot of hours of entertainment through multiple tv shows. So ready for a new tv show. I do like the movies, but much prefer the tv shows.
Bobby Roberts
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I don't think they want to be advertising Episode XVII from a marketing standpoint down the line.
That's why they pulled the Episode numbers out of everything but the opening scroll.
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Granted the only Star Trek stuff I've seen is the JJ movies, but I didn't get the huge success gap between ST and SW.
Star Wars is just so big. Pop culture eats it up.
Star Wars is just so big. Pop culture eats it up.
Affeinvasion
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Mmm...ewok adventure films.Well they didn't want those sequels to either compete with their mainline films either. They were cheap cash ins and nothing compared to their big screen originals.
Granted the only Star Trek stuff I've seen is the JJ movies, but I didn't get the huge success gap between ST and SW.
Star Wars is just so big. Pop culture eats it up.
One of these franchises has lightsabers, the other doesn't. I mean it's pretty cut and dry.
alexandros
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I prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. Mostly because they have given me a lot of hours of entertainment through multiple tv shows. So ready for a new tv show. I do like the movies, but much prefer the tv shows.
Me too. Star Trek belongs on TV, the movies are just a fun distraction.
RastaMentality
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According to the wiki page, Return of Jafar made $150m. And they were awful. Parents went crazy it seems.what!?
how
BronsonLee
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According to the wiki page, Return of Jafar made $150m. And they were awful. Parents went crazy it seems.
That sounds a bit more reasonable, but still, what the fuck
RastaMentality
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That was in profits though so who knows how much revenue there was.That sounds a bit more reasonable, but still, what the fuck
Whats the opening weekend bo of TPM compared to TFA
TPM made $64 million opening weekend but it opened on a Wednesday so from Wed-Sun it made $105 million.
ViewtifulJC
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According to the wiki page, Return of Jafar made $150m. And they were awful. Parents went crazy it seems.
the kids needed to see Return of Jafar more than anything.
And it was such a trash rip-off of the first movie with worse animation, songs, and creativity. But it made a shitload of money, and that's all that mattered in the end to ensure a line of terrible Disney DTV films
BronsonLee
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Basically what I'm trying to say is that Aladdin ruined Star Wars
It probably cost them like 4 dollars to make that damn movie
That was in profits though so who knows how much revenue there was.
It probably cost them like 4 dollars to make that damn movie
I can see why Katzenberg wasn't that eager to mend Disney's relationship with Robin Williams if that film did so well without him.the kids needed to see Return of Jafar more than anything.
And it was such a trash rip-off of the first movie with worse animation, songs, and creativity. But it made a shitload of money, and that's all that mattered in the end to ensure a line of terrible Disney DTV films
Stupid kids.
Damn at Daddy's Home, from 20-25 OW estimates to we'll over 40 with a chance of reaching 50, who would've thought?
And a moment of silence for In the Heart of the Sea pls
Thats just turrible. Why people why. Every commercial i seen for it was cringworthy
I love Trek but it has never been a fair comparison, ever since May 1977. I think Trek fans seemed to mostly embrace the smaller fandom element though generally. Ever since TOS has been cancelled they seemed to embrace the underdog status and continue to do so.Enjoy your moment, Star Wars fans. As soon as Star Trek Beyond is released your records are going to be shattered.
Shut up ;_;
BronsonLee
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Can it gecko, or I'll make you watch Transformers 2 on loop!
Bobby Roberts
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We're gonna have to stop with the whole Deadline thing.
We were all EXPECTING around 50 mil a couple days ago in the first place. And now we're at "OH GOOD, FIFTY WHEW."
We were all EXPECTING around 50 mil a couple days ago in the first place. And now we're at "OH GOOD, FIFTY WHEW."
BronsonLee
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We're gonna have to stop with the whole Deadline thing.
I wish we could just whole hog kick them out, VGCha-rt-z style, but that'll never happen
PhoncipleBone
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I wish we could just whole hog kick them out, *******-z style, but that'll never happen
For box office predictions, it is pretty safe to count them out.
But for other industry news like casting and whatnot, they are reliable.
Can it gecko, or I'll make you watch Transformers 2 on loop!
That's what I was going to bring up.
For all the shit that the prequel trilogy gets, it's a shame the Transformers quadrilogy doesn't get the same hate and outrage and fan backlash.
What a bunch of toolboxes.
BronsonLee
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For box office predictions, it is pretty safe to count them out.
But for other industry news like casting and whatnot, they are reliable.
Pretty much. Numbers wise they are aaaaaass, but they seem good for the rest. Idunno.
That's what I was going to bring up.
For all the shit that the prequel trilogy gets, it's a shame the Transformers quadrilogy doesn't get the same hate and outrage and fan backlash.
What a bunch of toolboxes.
Transformers 1 is alright. 2 is trash. 3 is massive carnage. 4 is HILARIOUS.
Also Transformers fans don't give nearly as much of a shit as Star Wars fans do. They aren't very comparable properties popularity wise.
Bobby Roberts
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For box office predictions,.
Yeah, I just meant Deadline in regards to the point of these specific threads, not movie news in general. It's kind of Making Star Wars type deal, basically - I'm not doubting the sources of information, I'm doubting their writers' ability to specifically interpret what the fuck that info ACTUALLY MEANS in a decent way.
Because it's obvious Deadline ain't great at reading the tea leaves at all.
I am pretty literally just a day or two you said something along the lines of: Holy shit this might actually do 50 mil on Christmas.We're gonna have to stop with the whole Deadline thing.
We were all EXPECTING around 50 mil a couple days ago in the first place. And now we're at "OH GOOD, FIFTY WHEW."
Which was because 50 was just a pipe dream and then we get high on crazy predictions and start getting mad when it doesn't triple every single daily all time record and instead only doubles the Christmas record.
The fact many on box office forums would see this as a major disappointment if this does 900 mil domestically and not a billion is pretty telling how absurd this has gotten.
Pretty much. Numbers wise they are aaaaaass, but they seem good for the rest. Idunno.
Transformers 1 is alright. 2 is trash. 3 is massive carnage. 4 is HILARIOUS.
Also Transformers fans don't give nearly as much of a shit as Star Wars fans do. They aren't very comparable properties popularity wise.
I guess. I guess you can compare the TF viewers to Marvel movie viewers. They don't give a shit about the franchise outside the movies I guess?
I guess no matter what they'll eat up the sequels like fish. Dopey sheep fish.
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