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Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
<3 my 7.5 minute hearth. My back 15 minute backup is nice too.
I started leveling fishing yesterday.
With every cast of the line...
...I feel my soul draining away.
I just got linked to this, also. Hilarious XD
Eddie Izzard and Archaeology
With every cast of the line...
...I feel my soul draining away.
I just got linked to this, also. Hilarious XD
Eddie Izzard and Archaeology
CarbonatedFalcon
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Angry Grimace said:
Guy in my current guild has every pet. Every single one. He also has every item you can get from the TCG.
In regards to Powerleveling Enchanting/Alchemy - Alchemy is actually fairly easy and cheap, just follow a guide that tells you how much you need to buy and what to make. Enchanting is more of a pain. If you can solo Outland dungeons, that part will be quick, Northrend fairly quick also now since those can be soloed as well now. Once you get to Cata level though, and you'll need to hit at least 500, maybe more to DE the stones, it'll be pretty expensive.
notworksafe
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Not very much, really. I've got about 100k in gold between all my characters and according to one of those gold sites that's about $500 US on my server.Angry Grimace said:
wonderdung
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Weenerz said:
Possibly to equip but not to create/DE. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=80508 Skill 500.
Earlier I thought the alchemy stone thing was unbalanced and should be patched... until I realized I could just trade the mats to a guildie. Saved about 5k gold on my Power Torrent enchant today with a few hours of farming.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There are never level restrictions on crafting, but there are restrictions on level to acquire the crafting skills. You can't reach illustrious skill until 75, but after that, you can craft anything that you can get the recipe for.DeathNote said:
AdventureRacing
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CarbonatedFalcon said:
There is only one annoying part of leveling alchemy, fucking goldthorn. They have made it very rare and they have made it so damn important to raising alchemy.
It's hard to even buy enough to level through, half the time on my server there is no goldthorn on the AH.
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Why are hearthstones so important to you guys?
well, two nights on Halfus so far. was ALMOST ONLY two nights... had him down to 3.8M on the last pull. basically it's the difference IMHO of one more set of drops from two of the current downed bosses (which I'm guessing is what we are going to start with tonight). Well, that and for some reason assholes think flasks are optional at this point in raiding still..... seriously, probably 1/4-1/3 of the raid was without flasks last night.. this ain't the end of LK days folks.. it's like 225-280g for an hour.
Anyway, our guild leader is trying to rebuff us with the fact that we had stone, slate and time this past week. popped stone right away (and usually got the first instant shadow nova interrupted also), popped time at about 40% on stone. popped slate almost right as soon as stone was dead. so we dropped the drakes in about 3:00 leaving us 2mins to DPS halfus. me and the other mage grabbed both interrupts during the roar stuns. really a great run.. just that damn 3.8m shy after the berserk. still, a shitload closer than we were on omnotron the pull before they were downed. unfortunately by that pull EVERYTHING respawned in that first area........ we already kamakazied/rezzed when only part of that room popped. noway we were going to make it with the whole room back up and it's like at least 30-40 minutes to clear the trash. oh well.. guess we'll get free loot on Conclave, Omnotron, and possible Magmaw tonight... then finish off Halfus on Thursday with (hopefully) 15 more epics in the guild.
as for those complaining about archaeology, get archaeology helper AND gathermate2. leveling archaeology is actually tolerable with this combination. gathermate2 keep track of dig spots, and archaeology helper puts visual ranges on the screen for red, yellow and green.99% of the time it's not more than three surveys to get a piece, and often it's only two surveys. it doesn't fix everything wrong with the profession... but at least it turns running around aimlessly for 5-8 surveys into running towards specific spots. Yuo can even drop right down on a dig spot and sometimes get it right on the first survey. anyway, got my first rare last night.. stupid night elf one that brings light down on you..... ugghhh.. problem I have with archaeology is that it's time spent that I could either be fishing deepsea sagefish, fishing highland guppy (for much quicker to obtain food and for Seafood Magnifique), fishing volatile fires, or leveling my 15 survival hunter. all of which are significantly more fun.
Anyway, our guild leader is trying to rebuff us with the fact that we had stone, slate and time this past week. popped stone right away (and usually got the first instant shadow nova interrupted also), popped time at about 40% on stone. popped slate almost right as soon as stone was dead. so we dropped the drakes in about 3:00 leaving us 2mins to DPS halfus. me and the other mage grabbed both interrupts during the roar stuns. really a great run.. just that damn 3.8m shy after the berserk. still, a shitload closer than we were on omnotron the pull before they were downed. unfortunately by that pull EVERYTHING respawned in that first area........ we already kamakazied/rezzed when only part of that room popped. noway we were going to make it with the whole room back up and it's like at least 30-40 minutes to clear the trash. oh well.. guess we'll get free loot on Conclave, Omnotron, and possible Magmaw tonight... then finish off Halfus on Thursday with (hopefully) 15 more epics in the guild.
I leveled frost.. can't say much more other than that, though I am fire now for significantly higher DPS (was 16K last night on drakes and 22K on halfus). But just knowing the specs right now, frost might be a better choice just for survivability. slowing blizzard, half the cooldown on iceblock, not to mention the world's second dumbest pet (dumbest being those damn mirror images). maybe it's possible with fire that you can burn things down so fast it's not an issue... but for leveling 1-80 I was strictly frost. went arcane for wrath raiding. then 81-85 leveled and stayed as fire. most fun was frost. most boring (but highest burst) was arcane. most dps was/is fire.No45 said:
as for those complaining about archaeology, get archaeology helper AND gathermate2. leveling archaeology is actually tolerable with this combination. gathermate2 keep track of dig spots, and archaeology helper puts visual ranges on the screen for red, yellow and green.99% of the time it's not more than three surveys to get a piece, and often it's only two surveys. it doesn't fix everything wrong with the profession... but at least it turns running around aimlessly for 5-8 surveys into running towards specific spots. Yuo can even drop right down on a dig spot and sometimes get it right on the first survey. anyway, got my first rare last night.. stupid night elf one that brings light down on you..... ugghhh.. problem I have with archaeology is that it's time spent that I could either be fishing deepsea sagefish, fishing highland guppy (for much quicker to obtain food and for Seafood Magnifique), fishing volatile fires, or leveling my 15 survival hunter. all of which are significantly more fun.
lol.. as a mage I just destroyed mine to make room in my bag during a lowbie instance farm run.. though I am thinking I should get it back and bind it to that new inn just north of blackrock mountain. at least then all three raids will only be less than 20 seconds travel time for me.Rez said:
funkmastergeneral
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Scrow said:
Potion of the Tol'Vir. You should be popping one before the fight starts and another during the fight.
really, just +90 food and +300 flasks. if you want to be the good raider (and your guild has gotten them already) you can bring the dragon feast (or if your guild is.. like... insane.. the seafood magnifique feast).. or I suppose extra food (not a huge deal) or extra flasks (yeah right... though if your guild mates actually buy them from you not a huge deal possibly) but really just your own +90 food and flasks for however long you'll be going that night, give or take. oh, and if you're a mage or warlock, enough stones/arcane dust to put out healthstones or a mage table.. but really not much more to it than that.Scrow said:
oh, and if you have a jeeves, also not a bad idea. traveler's mammoth isn't quite as useful because during a wipe everyone is going to run back in right away.. so no one is going to want to run back out to repair. though you can pop the mammoth in the Four Winds instance.
probably not today. most are saying probably not next tuesday. so according to most probably not until 2/1 or 2/8 at the earliest.DeathNote said:
me personally, I can't wait.. I want all of the meta gem changes like... last week...
edit - oh.. lol.. pugs are having a chance of being great now that people have all cata exlated reps and a good stock of valor points. Got in a SFK group yesterday... started in the great hall... greeeaaaattttt... come in on a wipe, fantastic. Get up to the guys at the pull before springvale... fuck.... guys say "ok, nuke the two adds and the tank will kite him back to the fountain." I heard about this, and cool that this group knew about it.. well, it went perfectly, and as fire mage I was ONLY above the tank in freaking dps.... at 10K..... so we demolish springvale.. fly through the next trash. get to walden... baet my old record kill by a minute... umm... get right before godfrey.. "So.. um.. why did the last DPS leave? You guys are seriously the most awesome pug I've ever been in?"
"Asshole wouldn't stop using starfall on everything. Pulled entire rooms constantly, so we kicked him." lol.... literally. And even coming in fourth in DPS I STILL got "good DPS by the way. great run guys". So yeah, when your lowest DPS'er is 10K (surv hunter topped at 13K), I guess Springvale to Godfrey takes a whopping 19 minutes (11 minutes left on my Molten Armor). One of the guys even passed on the Chaos orb asking me if I needed it (I did.. was only one orb away from my cloth). Seriously, just a great group. A shame that heroics are getting nerfed so bad in 4.0.6 just as pugs are getting geared and experienced enough to actually have some real fun in them. guess it's back to wrath heroics now.
edit edit - btw, that springvale strategy is ridiculous... just ridiculous.
Are prot warriors supposed to be this strong? I did my 1st heroic run yesterday(got Lost City of Tolvir yay), and in some of these big early pulls, i end up with 10-11k DPS. As prot. With tanking gear. Of course i had a group of 1 dk and 2 locks so there was barely any CC except 1 seduce, so the AOE damage was pretty strong for me, but still...
Macattk15 said:
Against a boss i forgot, because it didnt surprise me as much, but i think it was around 4k or 5k or something, im not sure. I saw some 6.5k DPS sometimes, but i think that was against a group of 2 or 3 thanks to Revenge, Cleave & Shockwave. Definitely not 10k like in bigger AOE situations.
Macattk15 said:
Yes, but it was still funny yesterday to see me, the prot warrior, doing 10k DPS in AOE, while our 2 locks were doing 4.5k.
Sure, one of them was barely geared for heroics, but i still find this funny.But that difference was probably mostly due to skill and proper talents/gems/enchants than anything else.
moojito
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I almost had a healer quit in a blackrock depths pug after my pally tank busted out 13k dps vs 6-7k or whatever from the dps. We had to carefully explain that I was attacking the adds while the dps didn't in order to get the achievement. Managed to talk him down from the ledge!
cuevas. PhD.
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I was "trying out" for a raid spot with another guild and we did a few heroics just to see if I was a competent healer. All they did was not use CC on any pull and no rest between the fights. This is how every heroic should be done, we were done with each in like 30 minutes.
this is how we do most heroics. I think by habit I still sheep a caster in DM on those pulls, and umm.. a mob per pack in lost city.. ummm.. and that's it? mostly out of habit. but yeah, we haven't been actively calling out CC targets in heroics for like two weeks now.cuevas said:
as for just not doing it at all in heroics.. heh.. NOW that seems like the obvious choice.. but 4-5 weeks ago when everyone was running in MAYBE an average of 329-335 ilevel... yeah.... that's where most of the CC talk came from. now that many times your average ilevel in a random is 345-350 CC is hardly necessary.. you can pretty much go back to wrath heroics. unfortunately that's not truly preparing you for raiding, aside from VPs for gear.
You actually don't have to kill the adds either. What you do is have someone pull both the adds and then run through the door that leads outside from Springvale's room, and then they jump over the edge landing right next to the fountain which then causes the two adds to despawn.borghe said:
funkmastergeneral
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-PXG- said:
It doesn't make a hearthstone redundant. Astral recall glyphed still has a cooldown, so it allows an additional hearth if needed. It was good for hearthing back to Dalaran to quickly port to major cities during holiday events.
Bisnic said:Yes, but it was still funny yesterday to see me, the prot warrior, doing 10k DPS in AOE, while our 2 locks were doing 4.5k.
But that difference was probably mostly due to skill and proper talents/gems/enchants than anything else.
Ya prot warriors are pretty awesome in aoe damage. Pity cleave getting a nerf
. When I was specced fully for aoe tanking it was pretty insane. I freaked out a 25 man raid I was in since I was leading dps by FAR.exactly. I'm 350 with seven 359 pieces right now and we cleared springvale to godfrey in 19 minutes. but when we were in mostly 333 and 318 with a 346 here or there you better sure as hell believe you needed CC, rests and LOTS of healing during a normal heroic random.DeathNote said:
kind of fun really.. this is the first expansion I every played at launch of.. well, I did BC but didn't last in BC til 70. anyway, kind of fun to see the learning curve on this before everything pre-raid becomes trivial. closest to true "classic wow" I've experienced. Now it's spending 30-45 minutes a day on your random and raiding.. and farming either cash or raid supplies. but still... was a fun month and a half or so still experiencing everything for the first time.
cuevas. PhD.
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DeathNote said:
Most people call that progression.
cuevas. PhD.
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Actually I did a lot more heroics in TBC and a few more in WOTLK. I have only done a couple weeks of heroics and haven't even earned "The Patient" yet even though most of the time I have done random simply because I have lucky drops. I just discovered two of instance entrance last week
I have also progressively played with better players in each expansion so that helps.
I have also progressively played with better players in each expansion so that helps.
I remember how my first run of heroic Lost City & BRC took nearly 3 hours with my guild group, because we had never done it before. Then we come back the next day and it took us around 1 hour. I'm sure we'll get to 30 mins runs someday when we will overgear them.
Can't say i really liked those 3 hours run, but it brought back some memories of the 5 mans in BC.
Can't say i really liked those 3 hours run, but it brought back some memories of the 5 mans in BC.
So I went and did MC the other night just with a friend just for "fun". It was my first time in there since vanilla. It's amazing how primitive all the fights in there are. I mean I always knew they were and that in vanilla we were fighting the game design more than the actual encounters.Just running that place as such a high level seems to really nail the point home.
but it was a response to your comment that "this is how every heroic should be done" as if possibly people do/did crowd control and resting because they are slow/lazy/cautious. you are correct. when you are geared out for raids, doing heroics is trivial. when you just dinged 85 in quest greens or a few quest 333s, you need CC and resting to complete them.cuevas said:Most people call that progression.
this was pretty much the cry from the anti-nerf crowd from the start (of which I have been a part of). nerfing heroics because people are having a hard time in them with an average ilevel of <340 in a pug one month after the game is out is ridiculous. there is no time for the tried and true strategies to develop, and everyone is in bare minimum gear. 2 months after launch and the average ilevel of a pug is >340 and sometimes even around 350, and you have well known strats out there like springvale, the tornado dude in VP, Corla in BRC, etc. and the encounters will/do become trivial as is. Nerf them down and you are basically going to have wrath style randoms that do nothing to actually prepare players for raiding. you'll have 351 tanks able to pull full packs in Tides, Grim and DM while being able to be adequately healed by <335 healers because of CDs and damage mitigation and there really won't be anything learned at all.
though I did say in a previous post that I really didn't care anymore. I got all of my 346 gear ages ago, did it before the nerfs... about the only thing I wish I would have done is get my Glory of the Hero achievement before they all hit.. but unless I put some serious time in this weekend or next I don't think I'll have time to do it.. still need about 12-15 achievements I think.
primitive is a really generous word. it's kind of sort of bad. though definitely primitive under the guise of "they didn't really know any better". still, back for vanilla it definitely achieved the effect of being epic (in the truest sense of the word). and as we've mentioned in this thread before, not a bad place for farming runs actually. you can do the whole thing solo in an hour or two, bosses drop some decent dough (Rag alone drops 140g). and the non-bop materials for thunderfury and sulfuras go for some sweet cash on the AH for people going for vanity items or achievements.Ferrio said:
It's horrid with random people. If you personally get 0 drops, none of the gear you helped become loot-able helps your raid progression. But if you don't have fun putting hours into progression with friends then how can one have fun raiding? Unless you get carried, it's the same experience.Bisnic said:
In 3 months when I'm sick of the instances and have a few alts, yes I'll want cake runs.
exactly.. though like I said.. I'm at the point now where I don't even care on heroics anymore. I literally do one a day (if even that) for the VPs. no rep. no items (well, except a wand which I've stopped even caring about after probably 25 combined runs of the three instances that drop one), no reason at all to run except for the VPs.DeathNote said:
but yeah, that kind of sums up my above post in a nutshell... if people are crying and whining about heroics now.. presumably many of them are going to want to raid in the end game... raiding is much much worse. the trash in Bastion is almost an hour on its own, and then we proceeded to wipe on halfus for at least an hour and a half (I have 30 minutes left on my current flask). what are they going to do then?
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