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[Mupod]

Hah, I have the opposite mindset, I would rather every mechanic be something I have to deal with instead of hoping someone else doesn't mess up. I hate failures that I cannot affect, why I chose a tank in the first place! Overflowing seems to be very healer class specific, and is much easier for more HoT based healers to deal with. Versus something like a disc priest who has 12 seconds of attonement left on a DPS so all their damage will overflow that person unless they ask them to click off their buff, or a paladin with beacon on the tank that can overflow. Also, any healer that is more crit based can have some issues. I mostly just hate (as I mentioned in my edit) that it persists for a minute outside of combat, so if you are the tank with a 1 million absorb you can either wait a minute for it to fall off or game the system by unequipping and reequipping a piece of gear to drop you below max hp so the healer can get rid of your absorb.

I mean that's the exact reason I play a tank too. And after playing a tank for a while, you're bound to develop even further trust issues...especially regarding patrolling mobs and ranged DPS with low self awareness.

But after last week, as a DK, I need a break.

 

[e90Mark]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/n...-with-world-of-warcraft-the-official-cookbook

When I clicked the link, I wanted to buy one as a gift, but got to the bottom and saw it's a Blizzcon only item. I don't think I want to pay an extra $40 to buy a $35 cookbook.

 

[Lomax]

When I clicked the link, I wanted to buy one as a gift, but got to the bottom and saw it's a Blizzcon only item. I don't think I want to pay an extra $40 to buy a $35 cookbook.

Cookbook is $22 on amazon and I'm not seeing any indication that Blizzcon version is any different.

 

[Sölf]

I took another look at the Karazhan loot tables. Some items have been updated with cool effects again:

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142170/drape-of-shame
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142174/choker-of-barbed-reins
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142173/ring-of-collapsing-futures

There is also a new set, which could actually prove really useful for Mythic+ dungeons:

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142207/amulet-of-the-last-guardian
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142215/wine-stained-mantle

I wouldn't be suprised if some of those things as well as some trinkets turn out to be BiS for some speccs if it proccs a high enough itemlevel.

 

[Anoregon]

I took another look at the Karazhan loot tables. Some items have been updated with cool effects again:

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142170/drape-of-shame
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142174/choker-of-barbed-reins
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142173/ring-of-collapsing-futures

There is also a new set, which could actually prove really useful for Mythic+ dungeons:

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142207/amulet-of-the-last-guardian
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=142215/wine-stained-mantle

I wouldn't be suprised if some of those things as well as some trinkets turn out to be BiS for some speccs if it proccs a high enough itemlevel.

Preeetty cool. I'm really looking forward to hopping back into Karazhan.

 

[Mothman91]

So my shaman alt is 845. Everything he has is above 835+ besides a fire relic. I've been damn trying my hardest to run heroic and mythic dungeons for one. Weekly boss drops one, going to use all 3 of my coins on it, if it doesn't drop then fml.

If that fails, are crafted fire relics upgradable like crafted gear? I upgraded my alchemy trinket, but never tried looking for a relic.

 

[Tenebrous]

This expansion has definitely made me swear off alts forever.

Too much to do. Some of it good. Some of it RNG nonsense.

Pretty much the complete opposite for me.

My chances of getting an upgrade from mythic+ is ridiculously low on my Warrior that I only tend to do a +10 each week for an 880+ piece. Professions are sorted, WQs unneeded... Character is pretty much done.

Monk is 854 with fully crafted BiS gear. Chances of getting a worthwhile upgrade from mythic+ is pretty low - Definitely not worth spamming through it with Artifact Knowledge 3. Still, did a +8, and will hopefully get a decent chest from it. Professions are sorted, WQs needed until I get a legendary, but that's 4 WQs a day only.

Druid is just stacking AK until I get bored & clearing 4 WQs a day.

So my daily checklist is...
2x Four World Quests (on alts)

And my weekly checklist is...
2x High level mythic+
4/5x Raid nights

*Shrug* might as well do some alts.

 

[Rhaknar]

wtb 110 boost

 

[Orochinagis]

Damm you Thalyssra, the guy sacrificed to save us and you left him like trash on the entrance, you crazy? there is no prop to take him inside also he have some HP left yet he dies anyway.

wtb 110 boost

k, gift me that

 

[v1perz53]

I don't feel that at all, leveling alts has been fun and even if I don't feel like playing them immediately at 110 they can sit there and gain AK.

See, my problem is that I feel like I have to level all my alts to 110 just so that I can start collecting AK so they won't be too far behind (which means doing enough WQ content on each alt to maintain the 500 resources every few days for research). And then I feel like I should specifically not play them because it feels bad to get a reward of 150 AP when I know if I waited a couple weeks it would be 700+, even with the alt needing less AP per point of the artifact. 7.1 will help quite a bit with account wide WQ and suramar unlocks, but I definitely feel that alts are a pretty rough undertaking (if you want to also play your alt at the highest levels of content, mythic+ and mythic raids that is. System works fine if you just casually play your alts).

 

[TheYanger]

See, my problem is that I feel like I have to level all my alts to 110 just so that I can start collecting AK so they won't be too far behind (which means doing enough WQ content on each alt to maintain the 500 resources every few days for research). And then I feel like I should specifically not play them because it feels bad to get a reward of 150 AP when I know if I waited a couple weeks it would be 700+, even with the alt needing less AP per point of the artifact. 7.1 will help quite a bit with account wide WQ and suramar unlocks, but I definitely feel that alts are a pretty rough undertaking (if you want to also play your alt at the highest levels of content, mythic+ and mythic raids that is. System works fine if you just casually play your alts).

They gain AK faster if they wait anyway. They'll always just be ~a week behind once you start playing them no matter what. Like an alt you start today, has 1 day AK research for the first 6 or 7 points.

 

[v1perz53]

They gain AK faster if they wait anyway. They'll always just be ~a week behind once you start playing them no matter what. Like an alt you start today, has 1 day AK research for the first 6 or 7 points.

Are you sure? One of the people in my mythic+ group is an alt who was rolled ~3 weeks ago, and he is right now 3 AK behind the rest of us, with 4 day research. And one of the other people in our group just hit 110 on his alt ~5 days ago, and his research was 2 days, 2 days, 3 days. It seems like there is catch up, but if you don't get in early enough you will always be somewhat behind.

 

[Orochinagis]

You have to wait 3 days per AK, so your alts will be behind your "Main" no matter what unless you stop researching AK and getting AP on your main.

Or the guy right there leveled up their alt right away and managed to catch his main

 

[Mothman91]

I thought you were able to keep on using coins as long as you did them over and over? Did WB 3 times in a row, coin option only popped up in the first kill.

 

[Nere]

Has this been posted yet https://puu.sh/rnYeC/03b82d69be.jpg ? Think it all but confirms that N'zoth is coming, maybe next expansion?

 

[Mamont1537]

This thing with mythic keystone naming confuses me a lot.
When people in LFG write "mythic +2" do they mean key lvl 2 or lvl 3?

 

[Rhaknar]

barely did any mythics this week, just did a +3 just to get something out of the chest. oh well, will be better with kara since everyone in my little group wants to do it bad (at least for the first few weeks I guess)

 

[Sölf]

This thing with mythic keystone naming confuses me a lot.
When people in LFG write "mythic +2" do they mean key lvl 2 or lvl 3?

They mean level 2. Mythic +1 is the same as normal mythic.

 

[Mamont1537]

They mean level 2. Mythic +1 is the same as normal mythic.

I've just seen normal mythic being called Mythic 0 a lot of times.

 

[v1perz53]

You have to wait 3 days per AK, so your alts will be behind your "Main" no matter what unless you stop researching AK and getting AP on your main.

Or the guy right there leveled up their alt right away and managed to catch his main

I also don't think this is true, since I know at least one person who "caught up" and is now on 4 day AK research despite starting late, and I also know someone who just hit 110 and had 2 day AK research for a few of them. To me it seems like if you didn't start right away, you will always be somewhat behind, and it is likely that the sooner you start accumulating AK orders the less far behind you will be in X months down the road, until they change something. I know the current system doesn't allow you to ever catch up, since the guildie who is on 4 day research like me is 3 AK behind me, though I can't be certain if they allow a fresh 110 now to catch up to his level of "3 AK behind" but I also doubt it.

Hence my original comment about feeling pressure to get my alts to 110 just to start pumping up AK while I don't have time to play them anyway.

 

[TheYanger]

You have to wait 3 days per AK, so your alts will be behind your "Main" no matter what unless you stop researching AK and getting AP on your main.

Or the guy right there leveled up their alt right away and managed to catch his main

Yes, it will be behind, but it won't take long to catch up. In the long run, an alt you make today will be the same amount behind as one you made a week ago, compared to one you levelled day 1.

 

[Fjordson]

I've just seen normal mythic being called Mythic 0 a lot of times.

Basically the keystones start at level 2 and go up from there. Anything else (mythic or "mythic 0") is just a regular mythic.

 

[CelticKnight]

Sub runs out in 3 days and I'm taking at least 6 months off from WoW, I'm just bored of Legion now.

Has this been posted yet https://puu.sh/rnYeC/03b82d69be.jpg ? Think it all but confirms that N'zoth is coming, maybe next expansion?

I'd be down for an Old God expansion, probably the only thing they could storyline wise that they could do that'd make any sense.

 

[Mothman91]

Has this been posted yet https://puu.sh/rnYeC/03b82d69be.jpg ? Think it all but confirms that N'zoth is coming, maybe next expansion?

After you beat Odyn, go and talk to him ;p

edit: here it is.

 

[crpav]

Sub runs out in 3 days and I'm taking at least 6 months off from WoW, I'm just bored of Legion now.



I'd be down for an Old God expansion, probably the only thing they could storyline wise that they could do that'd make any sense.

I really should end my sub as well. I had some fun in it but I can't raid due to no time with family, job, life and everything. I don't have time to run dungeon after dungeon, do mythics or any end game content like I did before son was born. Only thing keeping em going is old mount farming and events like Headless Horseman and Christmas event. Thing is every Christmas we go to in laws so really can't even easily do that just to open the presents on Christmas.

Just so many other games I am enjoying and can enjoy in small time frames if needed.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Wow, there is still hidden things in 7.0, and 7.1 is about to drop. Come on WoW players, yall slippin'.

5 dollars it has to do with mini-cthulus whispers in the EN raid.

Something about dying under a circle of stars...it also says to 'drown' yourself but if it doesn't have to do with the ocean, then that may be a hint to its location(The half-drowned temple near the Court of Farondis?).

 

[Teletraan1]

I don't feel that at all, leveling alts has been fun and even if I don't feel like playing them immediately at 110 they can sit there and gain AK.

I feel the exact same way. Are people completionists on their alts or something? I sure as hell wouldn't do Nightfallen to Exalted or anything again but it is nice to have some different characters to play. I can have WQ unlocked shortly after they hit 110 if you just do the main quests until "get magical macguffin out of dungeon" quest and then move on to the next zone and repeat. You get to be upset when your alts get loot off of world bosses rather than gold or legendaries before your main or just park them and accumulate AK.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Spoiler

It's the eyebeam hat. Still not the BiS ring, but better than some others I guess,

 

[cdyhybrid]

Just got my

Spoiler

0th

legendary

 

[Strimei]

Anyone who got annoyed with the archaeology quest, Blizzard has increased the droprate apparently (saw a tweet from the official warcraftdev account) and the angry highborne spirits will have a 100% drop rate for it.

So it shouldn't take you like eight hours now.

 

[Data West]

I really want an expansion with Undermine as the major city

 

[dimb]

Anyone who got annoyed with the archaeology quest, Blizzard has increased the droprate apparently (saw a tweet from the official warcraftdev account) and the angry highborne spirits will have a 100% drop rate for it.

So it shouldn't take you like eight hours now.

I'm glad I didn't do it yet I guess. Feel sorry for those that grinded it out.

I really want an expansion with Undermine as the major city

This would be ideal if they are going in heavy on a N'zoth expansion. Was super bummed out by the treatment it got in Cataclysm when there's so much they could do with it.

 

[Strimei]

I'm glad I didn't do it yet I guess. Feel sorry for those that grinded it out.

It was annoying, but it wasn't too bad. But, bear in mind, I got the Seeker of Knowledge title in MoP (requires every pristine Mogu and Pandaren artifact), and the last pristine took me six months, so I may be a bit...skewed when it comes to this sorta thing.

Spoiler

Six god damn months. I love my title, but I still feel my eye twitch thinking about it

 

[B-Dubs]

Anyone who got annoyed with the archaeology quest, Blizzard has increased the droprate apparently (saw a tweet from the official warcraftdev account) and the angry highborne spirits will have a 100% drop rate for it.

So it shouldn't take you like eight hours now.

Except those spirits don't spawn every area, I've seen like 2 spawn over two days.

 

[Strimei]

Except those spirits don't spawn every area, I've seen like 2 spawn over two days.

Its more RNG, you've had bad luck.

I think they can spawn from any dig, but its up to the RNG gods. I got several over the course of digging up these jewels on two characters.

 

[B-Dubs]

Its more RNG, you've had bad luck.

I think they can spawn from any dig, but its up to the RNG gods. I got several over the course of digging up these jewels on two characters.

Considering how long it took me to finish off my Thunderfury, I'm not sure I'll ever finish one of those quests.

 

[dimb]

It was annoying, but it wasn't too bad. But, bear in mind, I got the Seeker of Knowledge title in MoP (requires every pristine Mogu and Pandaren artifact), and the last pristine took me six months, so I may be a bit...skewed when it comes to this sorta thing.

Spoiler

Six god damn months. I love my title, but I still feel my eye twitch thinking about it

It's rewards based for me. Like grinding out the MoP arch title feels not so bad when you get a reward like that. So far the arch rewards in Legion have been mostly terrible and pointlessly timegated. Doing it this week for a meager amount of gold is just like...why...

 

[Strimei]

Considering how long it took me to finish off my Thunderfury, I'm not sure I'll ever finish one of those quests.

Oof, good luck.

It's rewards based for me. Like grinding out the MoP arch title feels not so bad when you get a reward like that. So far the arch rewards in Legion have been mostly terrible and pointlessly timegated. Doing it this week for a meager amount of gold is just like...why...

Chief reason I'm doing it in Legion is so I can get the appearance that's locked behind it. Because of course the color I like for my mage and monk are the ones that require this damn thing.

 

[Rokam]

Just got my first legendary.... on my alt , Storms Tempest for Enhancement.

 

[lazygecko]

Still screwing around with DoF. You can enable mouse-driven control of the depth which is pretty nice.

 

[vocab]

Easy week easy timer.

 

[Data West]

Greed is a really fucking annoying trait

 

[Fjordson]

Ohh shit, the Calamari world boss just gave me double loot (with the bonus roll), one of them being the fire artifact. Yasss! My first useful pieces of loot in like a week.

 

[v1perz53]

It's rewards based for me. Like grinding out the MoP arch title feels not so bad when you get a reward like that. So far the arch rewards in Legion have been mostly terrible and pointlessly timegated. Doing it this week for a meager amount of gold is just like...why...

Honestly, I haven't enjoyed any incarnation of Archaeology more than its original implementation in cata. Real tangible gear rewards that were BoA and would make both your alts and mains very happy, interesting toys and random fun items, mounts etc. But mostly, no god damn crates. I know most people disagree, but crates are the worst thing about archaeology. Nothing feels more underwhelming to me than finishing a solve just to get yet another worthless crate every damn time. I honestly liked the vendor trash version of cata archaeology, some of them were worth a ton of gold (after the changes) and I made a non-negligible amount just from selling them. I wish I would have the option now to either crate or sell for a varying amount of gold. Though crates probably feel worthless because I have every rare solve that can be obtained from fragments...

E: also, don't know if it was this way before, but you can get the jewels for the archaeology weekly both as drops from the wisps and also as loot from fragments. Just got my 4th from a pile of fragments, no wisp spawned. Also this is much better now, whole thing took me like 45 min including the long walk back and forth in the beginning, doing it on a second toon. Yes, I do archaeology on more than one toon...

 

[dimb]

There was something kind of special to archeology in Cataclysm. Unearthing a new Zin'rokh that was actually useful was sort of unreal, and kept a strong connection with sort of getting back this sword that had been a big deal for me back in Vanilla. I can see a certain appeal to making a more involved story for each piece, but with the way things are gated it winds up removing any feeling of adventure.

 

[Lomax]

Yeah, that stuff was useful, but it was also insanely rare. Part of the reason most of us love the crates now is it gives us a chance to get the rares we never did from then. I farmed hundreds and hundreds of completed artifacts and never got Zin'rokh or the Tol'vir stuff. The current incarnation in terms of rares is far better. And honestly since dig sites give so much more, you could probably still get the old stuff to vendor from crates at about the same rate as it was back in Cata if that's what you really want. I'm not saying archaeology is great by any means, but at least it's gotten QoL improvements over the years if nothing else.

 

[Sarcasm]

I honestly don't know what to do with arch. I maxed it and have crates which I don't know what to do with.

 

[cdyhybrid]

So Blizzard put in an auto-D/C trigger on Fel Rush to try and combat animation cancelling macros.

The only problem is you can trigger it through normal play without macros. I just got booted from a group because I triggered the D/C and was offline for a minute, and now my specific dungeon queue for the day is gone. Quality fucking programming, Blizzard.

 

[Tarazet]

Just as I was complaining about how hard it was to get upgrades. Every week my Mythic+ caches have been utterly ridiculous, and this week continued the trend. The game really wants me to keep playing Enhancement, perfect roll.

 

[Strimei]

What with the SAG-AFTRA strike in a few days and Activision-Blizzard listed as one of the companies to strike against, I wonder how that may impact Blizzard in the future, if it goes on for long.

And with their voice acting getting so good, too.