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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004
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Guardian for resto as the 10% dmg reduction far outweighs the 5 yard increase I imagine.
Feral for the movement speed for bear I guess?
Blizz nerfed thick hide to 6%, so I'm considering the feral movement.
Wtf was that in the patch notes?
Orochinagis
Member
OMG I got the Blach Hand, *runs aways from the raid*
tried doing a +10 vault of the wardens. First miniboss instagibs entire party repeatedly because of +40% non-boss damage. Who balances this shit?
We gave up and went to do Halls of Valor. We could have done that in time with another try, I think. But not enough time in the week, I guess. Oh well, still get our 880.
We gave up and went to do Halls of Valor. We could have done that in time with another try, I think. But not enough time in the week, I guess. Oh well, still get our 880.
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Deleted member 325805
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I've used Grid forever but thought I'd give the default raid frames a go and they're actually really nice, think I'll go with them from now on. I've been trying to cut back on my addon bloat lately.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I would highly recommend resto affinity for Guardian. Last Mythic+ run, Ysera's Gift accounted for 34% of my total healing, doing ~14 million over the run, or ~20% of the healing our Holy pal did. It seems to be either bugged currently or the tooltip is wrong, as it heals more than the 1.5% the tooltip says. Also, there are many situations where being able to pop out and heal is both viable and also very helpful. Intermission phases on Helya, AoE on last boss of CoS, etc. My swiftmend alone heals for 660k, which is a massive single heal that can be amazing in the right situations, and is very useable even with it shifting you out of Bear.
I quite like the default raid frames now. The only thing I wish now is that I could whitelist/blacklist certain buffs or debuffs from the frame. For example, I wish I could have it only show Atonement on a disc priest, because that is really important to keep track of and everything else kind of gets in the way and just muddies the waters. Or maybe assign certain corners to certain buffs/debuffs.
Somehow?
Do piss easy Mythic like Maw or Hold for 1.
LF Carry Group for +2 key for 2 more.
LF Carry Group for +3-5 key for 3-5 more....
Thanks friend, will switch to resto affinity.
Has the Thick Hide nerf affected you so far?
I personally haven't noticed it at all, I feel incredibly powerful on a Guardian druid, especially for mythic+ even after the nerf. We did a couple +10/11's this week with Fortified (the "trash do more damage" one) and I was definitely getting hit hard but it was never out of hand. You have so many tools as a Guardian these days, be it Frenzied Regen healing 60-70% of your HP when you are getting hit really hard to short CD Rage of the Sleeper, which when combined with Embrace of the Nightmare is probably one of the best CDs in the game. And it is always pretty easy to kite as Guardian, since thrash applies a slow.
BTW, this is far into the future of any potential play, but if you ever do need to kite consider Moonkin affinity for that specific situation. It allows your thrash to hit enemies outside of their melee range, meaning you can infinitely kite without getting hit, very useful for things like Necrotic in Mythic+.
irfaanator
Banned
got my legendary earlier. ret pld waist. Not the greatest but not the worst legendary out there. Also in regards to stat sims, why does simc and askmrrobot give me two different stat weight values? Is simc the more preferred sim program?
One could argue thats what most nerfs do :3
So we finally did it, my Mythic+ group mass transferred our mains and alts to a PvE server. Now, as I've said before, I will defend to my death the right of people on PvP servers to freely gank and kill people wherever and whenever is allowed by Blizzard. But at the same time, there are several things that they changed in Legion that makes it so that a PvP server is 1000x more annoying than it ever was in the past.
First of all, the lack of faction specific quest hubs makes things pretty irritating, since if you are levelling a fresh 100 and someone is doing the same quests at 108, you will be moving from area to area with them and they can gank you the whole damn time. And speaking of, the "chose your zone" idea was fine in theory (though honestly adds nothing when you just have to do all the zones to level anyway) but leads to ~100-105 being a miserable experience on PvP servers. Then there are the world quests. There is plenty of incentive for 110 well geared players to occupy the same areas as lowbies levelling, and so many of them just kill you as you walk by. Which leads to the most egregious error, why do I get penalized for being repeatedly killed? Why am I the one with a 2 minute rez timer because someone is camping me? The rez timer REALLY should not apply to PvP kills against honorless targets...
But there is really one massive failing that I think causes all sorts of problems. WHY are the guards so damn weak now? It used to be that if you attacked someone near a flight master or in a city, the guards would make quick work of you, as punishment for what you did. But while levelling an alt recently, I would get instantly killed when landing at every single flight path, only to watch the guards attack my assailant and do ~1% damage to them per hit, as they easily got away. Back in my day, guards saw through stealth, kept hitting you when you would FD, and would kill you within 10 seconds if you were ballsy enough to attack in a town. Why don't they do that now?
I personally think world PvP is dumb and ganking is idiotic, but again I will defend to the end everyone's right to do so on a PvP server. But my god did Legion make this WAY worse than it has ever been before, to the point where I swapped servers just so I don't have to deal with it anymore.
First of all, the lack of faction specific quest hubs makes things pretty irritating, since if you are levelling a fresh 100 and someone is doing the same quests at 108, you will be moving from area to area with them and they can gank you the whole damn time. And speaking of, the "chose your zone" idea was fine in theory (though honestly adds nothing when you just have to do all the zones to level anyway) but leads to ~100-105 being a miserable experience on PvP servers. Then there are the world quests. There is plenty of incentive for 110 well geared players to occupy the same areas as lowbies levelling, and so many of them just kill you as you walk by. Which leads to the most egregious error, why do I get penalized for being repeatedly killed? Why am I the one with a 2 minute rez timer because someone is camping me? The rez timer REALLY should not apply to PvP kills against honorless targets...
But there is really one massive failing that I think causes all sorts of problems. WHY are the guards so damn weak now? It used to be that if you attacked someone near a flight master or in a city, the guards would make quick work of you, as punishment for what you did. But while levelling an alt recently, I would get instantly killed when landing at every single flight path, only to watch the guards attack my assailant and do ~1% damage to them per hit, as they easily got away. Back in my day, guards saw through stealth, kept hitting you when you would FD, and would kill you within 10 seconds if you were ballsy enough to attack in a town. Why don't they do that now?
I personally think world PvP is dumb and ganking is idiotic, but again I will defend to the end everyone's right to do so on a PvP server. But my god did Legion make this WAY worse than it has ever been before, to the point where I swapped servers just so I don't have to deal with it anymore.
Just sounds like quality world PVP to me! It's great for the game!
startyourengine
Member
LOL, what realm is this?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So I'm a fire mage
which one should I use?
which one should I use?
Jag
Member
Do you have another 110? You can do the same WQ twice on different toons. Don't forget the one in Dal is always up.
If I learned one lesson last night - never, ever accidentally pull one of those stags in Halls of Valor at +10 fortified. It charged our party for 3 million damage.
A bit disappointed in our performance this week but our time is limited and we spent 2 nights on Karazhan (1 for attunement, 1 for clear). We could have definitely gotten the +10 guild achievement but we got unlucky with our +10 keystones and we only had time to get two.
Really wanted to try a Nightbane run, we'll definitely tackle that this week if we get something impossible for our group like teeming/necrotic.
yeah I finally got my Blood hidden appearance and I'm done with that place. I would really like to see them add a hard mode though.
Out of curiosity how many points did you have? I was doing 400-450 every time it came up for a while, but after reading that many people only got it at higher levels I started full clearing. Got mine after clearing with 670.
A bit disappointed in our performance this week but our time is limited and we spent 2 nights on Karazhan (1 for attunement, 1 for clear). We could have definitely gotten the +10 guild achievement but we got unlucky with our +10 keystones and we only had time to get two.
Really wanted to try a Nightbane run, we'll definitely tackle that this week if we get something impossible for our group like teeming/necrotic.
yeah I finally got my Blood hidden appearance and I'm done with that place. I would really like to see them add a hard mode though.
Out of curiosity how many points did you have? I was doing 400-450 every time it came up for a while, but after reading that many people only got it at higher levels I started full clearing. Got mine after clearing with 670.
Jubei'Thos plus xrealms
Teletraan1
Banned
That raid/dungeon was hardly no nonsense. It had a bunch or RP and was one room with bosses that kinda sucked. We just came from Ulduar with is one of the best raids they ever designed and it was a filler raid prior to ICC. Not really a benchmark to judge the proof of concept. They could design a trashless series of connected rooms with cool bosses and people would like it. Terrible idea....hardly. Just never executed properly in this game. But I guess the other option is a bunch of trash. yes something that the MMO community has been calling trash since its inception. Surely something worthy of plowing through to avoid so called terrible ideas.
So yea, they changed something...
>:O Goddamnit, doing 5 quests for a smattering of gold and a piece of 825 gear is not fucking cool, Blizzard!
I think I ended up with 550. Usually start with 8 withered and just clear the whole thing, ignoring only the first door to the right.
Also I just love the look of the fists on my Gnome Monk. Clipping everywhere, but so damn funny/badass.
Teletraan1
Banned
Those fragments will be dropping out of normals and heroics at a higher rate by the next big patch you can count on it. Just like why do I have to unlock CoS on my alt this will be fixed so everyone can see the illidan storyline. Right now they are pushing mythics hard. I personally have no current interest in them because I am currently out of a guild. Rather than be a fun thing to do with some WoW bros it is dipping your toe in shit. It is not impossible and you do get good groups sometimes but I hate having to encounter random pug people in this game since a good majority of them are absolutely vile human beings and constantly remind you of this at every step of the way. It is also the big reason I am currently guildless. I simply don't end up meshing with the random racist/misogynist/asshat that has to use whatever raid voice communication program as their own personal offensive comedy hour. I simply have no tolerance for that anymore.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
So yea, they changed something...
Nothing has changed. It always shows 5 quests when you have no emissaries up.
First time for me, usually shows me 4. heh.
Lanrutcon
Member
I think I ended up with 550. Usually start with 8 withered and just clear the whole thing, ignoring only the first door to the right.
Also I just love the look of the fists on my Gnome Monk. Clipping everywhere, but so damn funny/badass.
Dude. Your Gnome looks fucking awesome. Tell me she has an appropriate name to go with those things.
racketpunch
Member
Finally got myself attuned for Karazhan. Is this dungeon in the premade dungeon finder? I wasn't able to see any entries for the dungeon when trying to find/create a group.
Robin64
Member
Mythic only.
So yea, they changed something...
It's always looked like that for me. I was actually surprised when the quests were only four.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
GJHSYH
GUYS
I OPENENED MY MITYCH CJHEST
I GOT
SHARD OF EXODAR
I can't. I quit.
GUYS
I OPENENED MY MITYCH CJHEST
I GOT
SHARD OF EXODAR
I can't. I quit.
spootime
Member
Oh shit, I got a good legendary!
Fuuuuuck I'm so jealous
cartographer
Member
Also got a second legendary, the Outlaw bracers, from my class chest. Can't equip two, so I have to choose between it and Sephuz 
(bracers for bosses, ring for cleaving dungeons, I guess).
My holy pally friend can't decide if he's more pissed that he's yet to get one or that I keep getting bad ones.
(bracers for bosses, ring for cleaving dungeons, I guess).My holy pally friend can't decide if he's more pissed that he's yet to get one or that I keep getting bad ones.
racketpunch
Member
I know it's mythic only but I'm looking in the "Premade Groups" section in the LFG tool where I find my other mythic+ groups.
teeming necrotic
