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Hardcore in my neck of the woods means uncut Porn. We in the UK can't handle a erect Penis on TV and the Japanese can't handle pubic hairWhat does that even mean lol
Hardcore in my neck of the woods means uncut Porn. We in the UK can't handle a erect Penis on TV and the Japanese can't handle pubic hairWhat does that even mean lol
You know, I wonder if we actually disagree.What you’re referring to I can’t fully answer without inciting console wars. Even though I own all 3 and treat them equally, others don’t and get upset. Read my first post again.
The timing of these PC-pitching threads is what I am raising an eyebrow to, because of what has been happening on the forum this week and last week.
You didn’t see these threads pre-February.
Let's say we have two individuals:First, you have to tell me what hardcore exactly means because I've done my fair share of modding, setting up private servers and tinkering stuff. However there still console only gamers that eclipse my playing time, proficiency in gaming and general knowledge about gaming and specific games themselves including lore, music composition, game balance and design.
100% agreed. You can be hardcore on anything, doesnt have to be a PCHC for me is not on what you play, but how many genres and type of games you play. A HC gamer is someone who plays from crpgs to strategy to action games. From indies to AA and AAA games.
Bruh, what ? I'm sure most of the 4090 owners out there have had a long upgrade journey which started with a ATI Radeon connected to CRT monitor back in the day. Like me. Nothing wrong with wanting to spend on top-of-the-line hardware and then using it to experience the best in visuals, especially if you can afford it. Doesnt automatically make you a casual. Depends on what else you do. I play both Cyberpunk 2077 and Disco Elysium on my rig.That being said, it all depends on your definition of hardcore.
For me personally, I don't consider most 4090 owners hardcore gamers, as most of them seem to be mostly interested in eyecandy, moreso than actually playing videogames. Again, this is based on personal experiences and interpretation, but yeah, you can have a €3000 PC, if all you do with that PC is Counterstrike, Overwatch, and mess around with Skyrim and Cyberpunk mods, than I don't consider you a hardcore gamer. Or even a gamer at all. You're just someone who occasionally plays some games to kill time. You're as much as a gamer as my mother, who plays Farmville on her tablet for 3 hours a day.
That's me. I got mine custom-assembled from a local business who specializes in this. On my third one now, i upgrade every 6-7 years. And yea, i've taught myself enough software tinkering to keep my drivers updated and my Windows free of bloat. I even brought back the better Win10 right-click menu on Win11 by tinkering in the registry.Not necessarily. Some people like to buy pre made PCs and call it a day.
To me, if you enjoy the process of building your own PC and taking care of it software wise, meaning you're tech savvy enough to keep your GPU driver up to date and not accidentally install hundreds of freeware apps that all try to start up when you turn on the PC, then it makes sense to get a PC purely for gaming.
It's not for everyone and it is way more expensive than consoles, so there is a barrier of entry.
They're certainly better at arcade games.Another typical stereotype with how Japanese players are better than Westerns at games. Nothing hardcore about the Japanese, they can't even handle pubic hair
It's funny how most of the world records for Arcade games belong to Westerns.They're certainly better at arcade games.
I'm a hardcore reader.Define hardcore gamers.
No. There are all kind of hardcore gamers, and definitely there is a specific group who are only on pc, the modding community. But the hardcore gamers who also like to collect games are nowadays only on consoles. Then the speed runners who are on every platform imaginable... And the list goes on and on.
The console path is definitely more straightforward.It definitely takes something extra.
Buy a new console - game on!
Buy a new 4080 Super:
1. Won’t post - ah - issue with power draw, plug different 8 pin into card - success.
2. Still not ideal though - wire looks cheap - buy new wire.
3. Try new wire. Play several games - hmm - not quite as good as it could be. Fps seems a bit low - also some tearing.
4. Use overlay to check power, fps and gpu usage. Power seems a bit low - we are talking 10 to 20 w. I have the required 750w psu - it should be fine but….
5. Buy 1000w psu and install - no immediate difference with stutter, but clear that getting higher fps - good.
6. Research stutter - could be g sync interfering with v sync. Decision as to 144hz or higher (monitor can do up to 180hz) - check it out and anything over 144 is oc and so colour depth drops to 8 from 10 - hmmm - sounds best to stick with 10 so stick to 144.
7. Further research - enable vsync in nvidia settings - and gsync and something else which caps frames to 140 or so.
8. Try games again - no stutter and fps solid at 140 or so!
9. Mess around with MSI crappy cooling software for what seems like hours to avoid annoying fan noises that are now happening (due to changing psu and mobo bios deciding to forget fan curve). Not helped by windows not liking you to boot in bios anymore. Success - nice and quiet.
10. Screw around with power cables so rgb on new gpu visible outside case. Perfect.
Only took a few days and another £150 plus but now satisfied. The gpu cost twice as much as my ps5 which worked out the box. I don’t what that is if it isn’t hardcore.
Bruh, what ? I'm sure most of the 4090 owners out there have had a long upgrade journey which started with a ATI Radeon connected to CRT monitor back in the day. Like me. Nothing wrong with wanting to spend on top-of-the-line hardware and then using it to experience the best in visuals, especially if you can afford it. Doesnt automatically make you a casual. Depends on what else you do. I play both Cyberpunk 2077 and Disco Elysium on my rig.
Lame generalisation, seems your only experience of PC gamers is forum nerds. PC offers the most eclectic gaming experiences out there and it's not even close. Hundreds of thousands of games of all differing genres at your fingers tips. True hardcore gaymers know this, bruvHardcore gamers? No.
Hardcore graphics nerds? Yes.
What happens when that person buys a switch? Because I do see a lot of 4k60 switch games comments but that's not possible on a switch.... HmmmIMO, PC gamers are the most hardcore because they're willing to go the extra mile to get the games running at their absolute max! And console gamers who put up with all the downgrades must mostly be casuals or fanboys.
Part of my eyebrow raise comes from the insistence of people suddenly shoving PC into this picture, implying two things:If we would be talking strictly platforms, I believe between PC, PS and Nintendo, we'll have a balanced industry with 'healthy' indirect competition.
That's why I said that I think there is a misunderstanding, because I think exactly like you.Part of my eyebrow raise comes from the insistence of people suddenly shoving PC into this picture, implying two things:
1) That many people here, including yourself, feel that a 'Big 3' is still a necessity, and I simply don't feel that to be the case.
2) That PC is now being pushed in place of another platform in order to 'win' over the other two.
I'm saying that neither make sense because PC is in a different echelon of gaming. PC has always been around, and Steam has been around for 2 decades at this point. PC has no set specs, no closed ecosystem, no sense of 'generations', and the only reason it would have exclusives is because either the developer couldn't afford the budget, the game's systems are too complex for a controller(RTS), or the game was too graphically advanced/processor heavy for consoles to run.
And still, all of the above does not matter to those who simply prefer consoles.
The problem with this statement is that you're speaking as if PC is new which is the part of your post that doesn't make sense. When you're talking in regard to PC, you keep saying 'going to be' as if they are some party stepping into the picture and are now relevant. They have always been relevant. They have always been around. One platform that would devalue their exclusivity doesn't suddenly change this.That's why I said that I think there is a misunderstanding, because I think exactly like you.
But there will be 3 platforms to play games on regardless.
You say the same thing as me, but for some reason make it so that I (and probably others) somehow turn it into a new 'big 3'.
I consider it PS vs Nintendo in the console-space with PC in it's own regard in parallel.
And even Nintendo vs Playstation isn't similar to PS vs Xbox, as I think it's going to be healthy indirect competition between PC and consoles.
PS vs Nintendo I can see becoming direct competition if Switch 2 gains proper 3rd party support.
My source is I am a PC gamer and a huge graphics nerd.Lame generalisation, seems your only experience of PC gamers is forum nerds. PC offers the most eclectic gaming experiences out there and it's not even close. Hundreds of thousands of games of all differing genres at your fingers tips. True hardcore gaymers know this, bruv
"Going to be" as in "post-Xbox".The problem with this statement is that you're speaking as if PC is new which is the part of your post that doesn't make sense. When you're talking in regard to PC, you keep saying 'going to be' as if they are some party stepping into the picture and are now relevant. They have always been relevant. They have always been around. One platform that would devalue their exclusivity doesn't suddenly change this.
It may change the console space, but the PC space remains unaffected and unmoved.
I'll never understand why humans try to put themselves in these neat little boxes when there is only one box they truly belong in.
Wait, is this secretly a thread about Porn?Let's say we have two individuals:
Individual A: Rides around on a very tame, kids friendly Pony inside of a fenced off small area right besides the barn. But does it for many hours, every day.
Individual B: Rides with impressive speed on a prize-winning Arabian horse through thickets and underbrush, crossing difficult terrain and manages to look good doing it. But he does it only once a week for about 4 hours or so.
Whom of the two would you deem to be a more "hardcore" rider?