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[Eminem]

OK I actually watched the entire show, and it was pretty miserable. The curse continues, and I am deeply sorry.

 

[jobber]

just so you will remember.......

you are paying for the sins of booing Cena............


I told you you would get yours! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Now that I think about it, TNA puts on a pretty good hour-long show.

 

[Christopher]

Now that I think about it, TNA puts on a pretty good hour-long show.

True that.

TNA puts on one hell of a good hour show...it just needs to look a bit more professional in terms of presentation and music.

 

[bjork]

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_17067.shtml

LOL

"Although The Zombie still cuts a better promo than Vince McMahon."

^truth!:lol

 

[CB3]

"Although The Zombie still cuts a better promo than Vince McMahon."

^truth!:lol

False. Vince does the walk. Walk alone > Zombie BS

 

[bjork]

False. Vince does the walk. Walk alone > Zombie BS

The Zombie may be my new favorite wrestler.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I'd like to see Kurt Angle headbutt dust off of the Zombie, and then the Zombie doesn't tap out or pass out from any chokes because he feels nothing.

Feud of the century.

 

[bjork]

I'd like to see Kurt Angle headbutt dust off of the Zombie, and then the Zombie doesn't tap out or pass out from any chokes because he feels nothing.

Feud of the century.

THIS is the kind of writing I could really get behind! :lol

 

[DMczaf]

I'd like to see Kurt Angle headbutt dust off of the Zombie, and then the Zombie doesn't tap out or pass out from any chokes because he feels nothing.

Feud of the century.

 

[Lyte Edge]

New ECW episode 1 sounds just like "Smackdown! 2," but I'll watch it anyway. I was disappointed with ECW ONS as well, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. The biggest problem right now is the huge WWE presence. I'm even okay with a few WWE guys jumping to ECW, as long as they don't go nuts with it (although reading that Big Show cleared the ring of nine ECW guys with ease made me wince), but it's tying in the WWE title with ECW and RAW that doesn't belong, nor do Edge and John Cena need to show up there as well. Right now, this is the Alliance angle all over again, sans the WCW faction. Yuck.

 

[The Frankman]

Hell if they wanted a no-sell, they could watch a real wrestler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc2Xsh70gDA

 

[Snaku]

I think I'm gonna be sick. That was absolutely atrocious.

 

[Triumph]

Guys, I'm confused. I just watched something that I was led to believe was ECW. But it, you know, SUCKED.

 

[shoplifter]

Tonight's show : 0/10

Fixed.

This show took everything ECW was and took a huge ****ing shit on it. You can tell that the guys in the locker room are trying, but with Vince and Co.'s hands in it, this abortion should just go away instead of tainting ECW any further.

 

[Forgotten_Taco]

I've been watching for about 20mins, and I hate it.

edit: ok, best promo ever.

 

[TheDuce22]

I laughed when that zombie grabbed the mic and started screaming into it but that was all the entertainment I could extract from that shitfest. What a horrible show. PS... I dont know what the **** that was but it sure as hell wasnt ECW.

 

[DMczaf]

 

[Dante]

:lol @ the zombie. Is the plan to always shoot this at the same venue as Smackdown, and also are they gonna keep crossing over ECW and WWE, or seperate them?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

also are they gonna keep crossing over ECW and WWE, or seperate them?

Why do you ask this as if anyone here would really know?

 

[Dante]

Why do you ask this as if anyone here would really know?

I didn't know if there were any future plans laid out on how this whole thing is gonna work.

 

[Tchu-Espresso]

Why do you ask this as if anyone here would really know?

:lol I love just how frank you are.

Lui Kang's GF: "Do you think i should wear this skirt to dinner tonight?"
Lui Kang : "Why do you think it even matters or that anyone should even care?"

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I just see a difference between questions like "so does anyone have insider news on any backstage dirt?" and "so does anyone happen to be a part of the WWE booking team and know how shit's going to play out?"

 

[Ninja Scooter]

people actually like this shit? Hey lets get 10 guys into a ring and have them constantly hit eachother with signs and trash can lids over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

and while we're at it lets bring out the most awkward looking skank stripper we can find and have her dance around on stage for no apparent reason.

 

[DMczaf]

people actually like this shit? Hey lets get 10 guys into a ring and....

"You had me at 10!"

 

[Forgotten_Taco]

Big Show is the only thing booked right the entire show.

 

[Nameless]

Like last year, Vengence is shaping up to be a damn good event:

WWE Championship
RVD vs. Edge

ECW's Sabu vs. WWE's John Cena

ECW's Kurt Angle vs. WWE's Randy Orton

Handicap Match
Degeneration X (Shawn Michaels and Triple H) vs. Spirit Squad (Kenny, Mikey, Johnny, Nicky and Mitch)

Best Of Three Falls Match
Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley

Triple Threat Intercontinental Championship Match
Shelton Benjamin vs. Johnny Nitro vs. Carlito

-Edge vs. RVD should be great, especially if its anything goes.
-Angle/Orton should put on another great match..I really dig Shoot/MMA Angle
-DX vs. Spirit Squad-hey its DX nuff said.
-Flair vs Foley-with the recent work both of these guys have put on lately I have high hopes.. it would be better if it was a 3 stages of hell though. 1st match wrestling match, 2nd hardcore, 3rd cage.
-Shelton vs. Nitro vs. Carlito- Could be MOTN if given enough time... I'll be happy if either Carlito or Nitro wins, though.

I wonder if they'll add Kane vs Kane, or drag it out to Summerslam to be homage to Taker vs Taker which took place at summer slam 94. Kane vs Kane will suck unless its an inferno or buried alive match.

 

[shoplifter]

people actually like this shit?

No one with any sense liked this shit.

 

[Nameless]

Ring of Honor and Combat Zone are both kicking ass right now. That is how you're supposed to do a cross promotion feud/invasion angle. Watch some of that their shows, you'll forget about this ECW fiasco quick.

 

[shoplifter]

Until my Dragon's Gate and NOAH dvds show up, all I can do is hold out hope that next weeks' show isn't a total ****ing abortion.

 

[Nameless]

Until my Dragon's Gate and NOAH dvds show up, all I can do is hold out hope that next weeks' show isn't a total ****ing abortion.

heh..ROH/CZW is already making WWE harder to watch than ever, i'm afraid that the japanese stuff will push me right off the wwe cliff.

 

[The Frankman]

CAn we see like 3-4 more show before condemning ECW to the fiery depths of Tartarus? Geez, let them build their roster.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

I wonder if the audience will eventually be morphing the "you ****ed up" chant for botched moves into "Paul ****ed up" chants for botched angles.

 

[Nameless]

CAn we see like 3-4 more show before condemning ECW to the fiery depths of Tartarus? Geez, let them build their roster.

You should know by now that as much as we criticize, nit-pick, and down right bitch & moan at times, no one is going to stop watching. Hell, even Lui Kang still watches despite his weekly rants.

You have to admit, though, that this was a HORRIBLE show. The crowd wasn't into it, we didn't even get a real match(2 squashes, and a cookie sheet battle royal). The time they spent on useless flashbacks, rambling, and that blonde chick taking off her bra...straps, then they did on wrestling, which was what ECW is SUPPOSED to be centered around.

Its just funny that the program was nothing more than Raw-Lite, and pretty much contained everything that Heyman, Tazz, and Styles have been shooting lately.

 

[Nameless]

I wonder if the audience will eventually be morphing the "you ****ed up" chant for botched moves into "Paul ****ed up" chants for botched angles.

Nothing tonight had Paul's signature on it. This show is probably going to suck until this ECW v. WWE angle is over, because all they will be doing is featuring WWE invaders and pimping hte living **** out of the next WWE PPV. With Raw vs Edge in the mainevent, and Cena facing an ECW guy I'm sure they'll both be on the show until their feuds are done.

 

[Christopher]

Exactly, great points all around.

The show was a total dud, when you have about 44 minutes of television time no segment should go to waiste espcially on your debut show. Why are Angle and Big Show ALREADY getting such big rubs...plus that squash match was shit...why not have a great match with angle on television.

Let's Break The Segments Down:

Intro Segment: Cena overcame the ****ing odds at ECW...please Cena go **** yourself.
Zombie: Fun little segment, but not needed on a debut show.
Angle Match: Waiste of Angle and Justin Credible.
Kelly: she likes to show off yet she covers her tittes? what is that?
battle royal: meh.

I agree with Ninja Scooter.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

CAn we see like 3-4 more show before condemning ECW to the fiery depths of Tartarus? Geez, let them build their roster.

What build was there today?

This is television. Regardless of anything, you have to be ****ing entertaining. Do people allow sitcoms and dramas weeks and weeks of development while suffering through shitty shows, or do you have to grab everyone right from the start? ECW isn't doing that.

This isn't just GAF shitting on the show. This is nearly every single wrestling site on the Internet exploding in "WHAT THE **** WAS THAT?" backlash. PWTorch received the most hateful, lowest-rated viewer feedback of all time. (They even mention in the headline that it's lower than the worst WCW Thunders.) Wrestling forums all over the Net are in stunned shock at what they just saw, with every forum having a sad "Well, it wasn't THAT bad" apologetic thread just because people want to still hold on to some hope.

And if you thought this was going to get better...

The next "supernatural" style character you can expect to see in ECW will be a tarot card reading witch portrayed by Shelly Martinez as WWE filmed vignettes with her tonight in Trenton, New Jersey.

 

[Christopher]

This is the most pointless use of an animated gif ever.

Is it?

Blast From The Past.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I love you, Biohazard.

 

[The Frankman]

What build was there today?

This is television. Regardless of anything, you have to be ****ing entertaining. Do people allow sitcoms and dramas weeks and weeks of development while suffering through shitty shows, or do you have to grab everyone right from the start? ECW isn't doing that.

This isn't just GAF shitting on the show. This is nearly every single wrestling site on the Internet exploding in "WHAT THE **** WAS THAT?" backlash. PWTorch received the most hateful, lowest-rated viewer feedback of all time. (They even mention in the headline that it's lower than the worst WCW Thunders.) Wrestling forums all over the Net are in stunned shock at what they just saw, with every forum having a sad "Well, it wasn't THAT bad" apologetic thread just because people want to still hold on to some hope.

And if you thought this was going to get better...

See, I had a big inspirational speech coming up where I'd mention the good 'ol days of wrestling, talk about how Cena overcoming is good not just for jobber and I, but for the country, and wrap it up with a Jesse Jackson "Keep Hope Alive" speech. Then I read this:

The next "supernatural" style character you can expect to see in ECW will be a tarot card reading witch portrayed by Shelly Martinez as WWE filmed vignettes with her tonight in Trenton, New Jersey.

Holy sh*t, it's XFECW: X-Files Extreme Championship Wrestling. I'm think I am going to lie on my bed and cry myself to sleep. I can't kid myself on believing today's show was passable ... Vince, YOU BROKE MY ECW.

Spoiler

At least we have DX

 

[Lost Fragment]

I'm sure these things have been talked about numerous times in this thread, but there ain't no way I'm gonna find the discussions in this thing.

1. Wrestling. On Sci Fi. Yeah. Ok. I hate this new demographic-based TV trend
2. The WWF/WCW feud that reignited popular interest in wrestling? The crux of that ended nearly 10 years ago. 10 YEARS. For the love of God and all that is holy, try something truly different that I haven't felt like I've watched 80,000 times so maybe I'll have more than a "hmm, wonder what this wrestler is up to these days" interest in wrestling again.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Until my Dragon's Gate and NOAH dvds show up, all I can do is hold out hope that next weeks' show isn't a total ****ing abortion.

I've seen a few Dragon Gate shows. Really fun stuff. I just wish I understood Japanese.

 

[Memles]

...and you people said things would all get started on Tuesday. Seriously, folks, ECW One Night Stand started this abortion by not allowing ECW to create an identity. As long as the title picture hinges on WWE and the rest of it is shitty Sci-Fi crap, ECW will blow. Hard. Heyman or no Heyman, this shit was booked terribly, and clearly Vince has too much control or something.

 

[DarienA]

I can't even remember when I turned the show off... let me go check a writeup.... oh yeah I turned it off just before the strip tease I'll have to check my Tivo to see how the battle royale went and to see if the strip tease was worth it(or just glance back through this thread)... but I somehow doubt either was worth it.

 

[shoplifter]

^^^ it wasn't.

The next "supernatural" style character you can expect to see in ECW will be a tarot card reading witch portrayed by Shelly Martinez as WWE filmed vignettes with her tonight in Trenton, New Jersey.

Actually, this might not be so bad if booked properly. It depends on how spooky/ridiculous it's made, and whether they play up the 'SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!' side or the 'hay guys i'm reading your tarot for this upcoming match' side.

 

[evil ways]

That shit was terrible last night. About 20 minutes into it I was thinking "Well maybe things will get better during the 2nd hour" and then I remembered the show only lasts 1 hour.

 

[dskillzhtown]

That shit was terrible last night. About 20 minutes into it I was thinking "Well maybe things will get better during the 2nd hour" and then I remembered the show only lasts 1 hour.

Let me tell you this. Paul Heyman sucked ass booking OVW the last 3 months he was down there. Everyone thought that it would pick up now that he has his baby ECW back. That bullshit was bullshit last night. I just finished watching it and if it doesn't get any better, the 18-week run on Sci-Fi is not going to be extended. It looked JUST like the OVW crap Heyman booked. Time will tell, but last night's show tacked on to the end of Paul's run in OVW might be telling us something about his writing nowadays. Really sucks because this was the debut, the show that everyone watched and they saw that bullshit.

Maybe the Zombie and the Vampire were things they had to put on the show for Sci-Fi. But did the Zombie have to be in a match?

So...why exactly, storyline-wise, can Heyman book Cena in ANY match, let alone one on a Raw PPV, anyway?

I thought about that myself. What ****ing authority does he have?

 

[shoplifter]

As Dave Scherer noted earlier, Paul Heyman wrote last night's ECW script. I was told by several sources that Kevin Dunn and Vince McMahon fought with Heyman on several elements of the show and won out.

The Sandman was originally booked to cane an alien last night, but The Sci Fi Network didn't want an alien getting beat up on their network, since, I guess, they thought it would cause an upheaval among their fan base. Perhaps only Stargate SG-1 can beat up the aliens? Anyway, SciFi stepped in and got the Zombie instead.

Unless there is a major change in philosophy, You can expect a LOT more science fiction/supernatural themed elements over the next few weeks as well in the new Extreme Championship Wrestling.

...

 

[3kuSaS]

From PWinsider

Last night's show was written by Paul Heyman and then put through the tweaking process by WWE creative. For those of you who thought Heyman would have some kind of creative control of the brand, you found out otherwise last night. This is a Vince McMahon production and we saw that last night. Reports backstage were that Heyman wrote the show to meet McMahon's expectations and visions of ECW.

Speaking of Heyman, people who saw him backstage told me it was pretty clear that he thought the show was a train wreck. In fact, everyone I talked to in the company felt the same way. They all knew that the show was a complete disaster and a failure.

Couldn't sum it up any better than "complete disaster". And i thought TNA had been sucking lately, this show makes the current TNA product look like ****ing Wrestlemania.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I cant think of anything to type here to say about the show. I still have to wait till Sunday to watch but the wait just made itself a whole lot shorter after reading this ...that bad eh?