Wrasslin Discussion: Week of June 26th.

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Outcast2004 said:
what else do they have to cheer for? Have you seen the crap that Smackdown has become?


storyline wise and wrestling wise, Smackdown is a lot better than Raw. SD should pick up steam since the Bash is the next ppv.
 
jobber said:
storyline wise and wrestling wise, Smackdown is a lot better than Raw. SD should pick up steam since the Bash is the next ppv.

What are you talking about...outside of King Booker there are NO storylines on Smackdown!
 
jobber said:
storyline wise and wrestling wise, Smackdown is a lot better than Raw. SD should pick up steam since the Bash is the next ppv.

Sorry, respectfully disagree. I find it dull and I'm sick of seeing the exact same matches every damn week.

A champ that can't win
Tag champs with no other tag teams to match with
A DEAD cruiserweight division
Khali is a waste of flesh
A NON EXISTENT main event scene
...and more lame ass late 80's sterotypes than you can shake a stick at.
 
Christopher said:
What are you talking about...outside of King Booker there are NO storylines on Smackdown!

you're not entertained by the acting of the GREAT Khali?!!??!?!


HFSIH SGFISJGISDF REST IN PEACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- Khali :lol
 
We've Edge vs RVD, Cena vs RVD, and ANgle vs RVD in three straight days... It should be brtually apparent why Cena sucks...
 
ecw has pretty good matches (especially compared to raw) but they NEED to tape it somewhere else. the smackdown crowd was dead for most of the show and chanted for cena. it was disgusting :(
 
Bowser said:
Damn, that was a nice 15-18 minute match.


It is kind of sad that ECW here can do that in a one hour show and yet Raw has now time for a match that goes over 5-7 minutes.
 
the_geche said:
Best match on WWE tv all year. You could tell the Cena chants got to both men though. Females and kids are stupid...


you guys are fuc king crazy

Cena chants didn't get to anyone.


you guys hate on a man who gets a chant on a show he's not even a part of :lol

relax
 
Very solid show outside of the unnecessary and stupid Kelly part. I love what they're doing with the Big Show.
 
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"Word life, mofos" :lol
 
Eminem said:
Very solid show outside of the unnecessary and stupid Kelly part. I love what they're doing with the Big Show.


Ya know what I actually get the point of Kelly, she is there to get Mike Knox over as a heel.
 
jobber said:
you guys are fuc king crazy

Cena chants didn't get to anyone.


you guys hate on a man who gets a chant on a show he's not even a part of :lol

relax
naw if you were watching closely, Rob and Kurt were talking to each other like WTF and they kinda botched RVD grabing the ropes/reversing the Angle Lock...
 
The Frankman said:
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"Word Life, mofos" :lol
:)

so tell me Cena haters? When was the last time Cena spit a rhyme or even said Word Life?

He's not a "thug" anymore. He's slowly turning into Sargent Slaughter :lol
 
Shard said:
Ya know what I actually get the point of Kelly, she is there to get Mike Knox over as a heel.

That's all well and good, but they should have him stop the striptease right away instead of letting it eat up a solid segment of a one hour show.
 
Next time John Cena gets on the mic and starts one of his cheesy, Rock wannabe promos, Sandman should come out and kill him...That would stick with Sandman's current gimmick nicely!.
 
Eminem said:
That's all well and good, but they should have him stop the striptease right away instead of letting it eat up a solid segment of a one hour show.

silence you. Kelly is perfection...just let her strip guys...just let her strip.
 
God I can't believe the amount of hate for the man who once was the hottest thing on Smackdown!. Seriously, this is great. You people are pissed that the fans have spoken, and they want John Cena. :lol

(this is going to be fixed in like 5 seconds by someone...)
:D
 
jobber said:
:)

so tell me Cena haters? When was the last time Cena spit a rhyme or even said Word Life?

He's not a "thug" anymore. He's slowly turning into Sargent Slaughter :lol
You dont get it, THAT was the Cena that everyone liked. The Cena that use to just decimate opponents lyrically then take the battle in the ring. Then they move him to Raw and just turn him into another generic good guy...
 
the_geche said:
You dont get it, THAT was the Cena that everyone liked. The Cena that use to just decimate opponents lyrically then take the battle in the ring. Then they move him to Raw and just turn him into another generic good guy...
Wait... so even though he grew up in suburbia/middle class you like him BETTER as a wannabe rapper? Great, that made sense. Didn't people just call him a "wigger" last night?
 
Hopefully they are trying to get the Sandman over as hell with the WWE crowd before Punk comes out and tears into him. There were actually "Sandman" chants tongiht. Punk debuts next week..BELIEVE!
 
The Frankman said:
Wait... so even though he grew up in suburbia/middle class you like him BETTER as a wannabe thug? Great, that made sense.
yea b/c that was the whole point, he was a bad ass rappin white boy who wore throwbacks 2 years after they became played out and thought he was the shit...
 
Nameless said:
Hopefully they are trying to get the Sandman over as hell with the WWE crowd before Punk comes out and tears into him. There were actually "Sandman" chants tongiht. Punk debuts next week..BELIEVE IT!
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... Fixed. :lol
 
I did like how the crowd went from a bunch of prepubescent "we want Cena" chants to actually appreciating the match they were watching as it progressed...
 
the_geche said:
You dont get it, THAT was the Cena that everyone liked. The Cena that use to just decimate opponents lyrically then take the battle in the ring. Then they move him to Raw and just turn him into another generic good guy...

I couldn't agree with you more but people seem to be stuck on the fact that he use to rap when clearly he doesn't anymore.

Since he's been on Raw, he retired Jericho...ran Christian off Raw....beat Kurt Angle 20 times....lost the title after a EC match...won the title 2 weeks later...and made the almighty HHH tap clean at Wrestlemania.

Has all types of heat (good and bad) and he hasn't missed a beat. I've been watching wrestling for over 20 years and I've never seen anything like this before. Bret's last WWF title run would come a distant 2nd.
 
the_geche said:
You dont get it, THAT was the Cena that everyone liked. The Cena that use to just decimate opponents lyrically then take the battle in the ring. Then they move him to Raw and just turn him into another generic good guy...


I don't hate Cena, but looking at the old Cena PPV matches, the personality and work he did was better back then. But Cena has made literally millions following the script that Vince made for him. Hopefully there will be a character tweak to return him back to his old character.

If you get a chance look at the Cena/Undertaker match. The build-up was classic. Remember Cena peeing on the toombstone? But for some reason, Vince sees his faces as just kiss asses, not with any personality. Atleast it appears that is what he is most comfortable with.
 
Shard said:
It is kind of sad that ECW here can do that in a one hour show and yet Raw has now time for a match that goes over 5-7 minutes.


Well, you can't short the DX time! :lol

Actually, the RVD/Cena match on Monday went pretty long, but not as long as the ECW match tonight.
 
The Frankman said:
... Fixed. :lol


CM Punk is the Anti-Naruto and the Anti-John Cena....No suprise, because their fans seem to be one in the same. 11 year old boys around the country, probably spend hours trying to figure out if they should go with the Naroto or John Cena shirt.
 
dskillzhtown said:
I don't hate Cena, but looking at the old Cena PPV matches, the personality and work he did was better back then. But Cena has made literally millions following the script that Vince made for him. Hopefully there will be a character tweak to return him back to his old character.

If you get a chance look at the Cena/Undertaker match. The build-up was classic. Remember Cena peeing on the toombstone? But for some reason, Vince sees his faces as just kiss asses, not with any personality. Atleast it appears that is what he is most comfortable with.
yes I think that it but the funny thing is the only face to escape this curse has been Stone Cold (though they did make him superman after awhile) and Austin was wrestling's highest draw in its most profitable era...
 
jobber said:
I couldn't agree with you more but people seem to be stuck on the fact that he use to rap when clearly he doesn't anymore.

Since he's been on Raw, he retired Jericho...ran Christian off Raw....beat Kurt Angle 20 times....lost the title after a EC match...won the title 2 weeks later...and made the almighty HHH tap clean at Wrestlemania.

Has all types of heat (good and bad) and he hasn't missed a beat. I've been watching wrestling for over 20 years and I've never seen anything like this before. Bret's last WWF title run would come a distant 2nd.

That's basically why everyone hates him. Cena is basically booked as God and he doesn't even have an interesting gimmick. All he does now is act like a badass and salute. Then he squashes everyone and never loses unless interference happens.
 
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I don't think any of us actually hate Cena as a person, or even his current character that much. It's that everyone knows what's going to happen. Overcome the odds, 5 moves of doom, blah blah blah. The "Same old shit" idea isn't unfounded. It's not Cena's fault that he's being booked this way, but it's only logical that a lot of fans have gotten sick of this bullshit and take it out on him.
 
There is nothing wrong with getting a good push. But my main problem with Cena is that he doesn't put anyone over DESPITE getting the victory. The wrestlers with talent can make their opponent look damn good and put them over in the process despite getting the victory. The way Cena works and sells(or lack there of) in the ring, makes him come across and totally obliterating his opponents.

Its like instead of the finish we saw tonight against RVD and Kurt, RVD hit the top rope kick, RVD hit his spinning heel kick, then hit rolling thunder, then hit his split legged moon salt, and then hit the frog splash FTW back to back to back to back to back(5 moves of doom style) , totally no selling the extensive damage he took during the match in the process. That would have made Kurt come off as looking weak. Both him came out of this looking competitive and stronger.
 
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