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Wrasslin' Thread 20XX |OT| New Age WrestleGAF

rkofan87

Gold Member
Stan Hansen broke Bruno Sammartino's neck with a bodyslam. Sammartino spoke to Hansen and told him not to worry, sometimes those things happen in wrestling. I think Hart has some residual jealousy for Goldberg. Goldberg never grew up in the business but he got hot quickly because of his look and gimmick. Hart was on the downside of his career at that point in WCW, he and Goldberg should bury the hatchet.
sting told the same thing to seth after the buckle bomb at noc 2015
 

NickFire

Member
Wait a sec, WWE Saturday night main event is coming back? Damn
I'm all for it if so. I absolutely loved those back in the day. With rare exception, that was pretty much the only time the big names faced each other outside of PPV. And we were way too poor when I was a kid to get PPV.
 

dave_d

Member
I'm all for it if so. I absolutely loved those back in the day. With rare exception, that was pretty much the only time the big names faced each other outside of PPV. And we were way too poor when I was a kid to get PPV.
All I can add is everybody remembers the bossman hogan superplex off the cage. It was so iconic.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Ok I had never heard about the ring boys and the sexual abuse of kids. Pat Patterson and others. Horrendous.
 

DKehoe

Member
Ok I had never heard about the ring boys and the sexual abuse of kids. Pat Patterson and others. Horrendous.
When it comes to Vince, a lot of the worst stuff gets swept under the rug and people focus on things like the Montreal Screwjob.

The documentary (from what I've seen so far anyway) doesn't mention that Vince had previously hired Mel Phillips back on the condition that he stayed away from kids, which he did not.
 
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RavageX

Member
When it comes to Vince, a lot of the worst stuff gets swept under the rug and people focus on things like the Montreal Screwjob.

The documentary (from what I've seen so far anyway) doesn't mention that Vince had previously hired Mel Phillips back on the condition that he stayed away from kids, which he did not.
The documentary really didn't introduce much that wasn't known (IMO). Honestly I didn't see anything that could be considered offensive to Vince or family, and I have about 20 minutes left of the entire thing.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That Punk Mcintyre hell in a cell match was fucking awesome.

1. I didn't expect CM to be able to have such a brutal match without completely gassing out
2. I didn't expect W to allow this much blood, almost like a Moxley AEW PPV match.
 

Dthomp

Member
I feel bad that Drew/Punk, who's feud has been building to this type of match at a PPV named Bad Blood didn't get the main event treatment it deserved instead of garbage tag match just so we could get his almighty ego a minute on screen at the end only to disappear and come back in two months talking about goosebumps or some shit.

This PPV was a big miss for me other then the Drew/Punk match. Both women's matches were awful, and that ref both in the Liv/Rhea match was terrible. Stupid Saudi segment didn't help either when many including me were really hoping this was finally gonna be a women's IC title.
 

NickFire

Member
I feel bad that Drew/Punk, who's feud has been building to this type of match at a PPV named Bad Blood didn't get the main event treatment it deserved instead of garbage tag match just so we could get his almighty ego a minute on screen at the end only to disappear and come back in two months talking about goosebumps or some shit.

This PPV was a big miss for me other then the Drew/Punk match. Both women's matches were awful, and that ref both in the Liv/Rhea match was terrible. Stupid Saudi segment didn't help either when many including me were really hoping this was finally gonna be a women's IC title.
Not a great PPV IMO either. But I like the Rock segment. I assume he will turn on Roman at Survivor, possibly win belt from Cody after (he has that whatever it’s for belt so maybe not), and Roman will face him at WM.
 

Dthomp

Member
Not a great PPV IMO either. But I like the Rock segment. I assume he will turn on Roman at Survivor, possibly win belt from Cody after (he has that whatever it’s for belt so maybe not), and Roman will face him at WM.
I can’t imagine Triple H putting the real belt on Rock, he’s got his dumb custom, and much like last year Rock/Roman does not need to be for a title. I think Cody/Orion makes for a better title match, and some of that is I truly don’t think Rock has anything left in the tank. I mean he managed to hurt himself in the tag match last year didn’t he? How can he handle a one on one with anyone other than Romans slow match style he developed.
 

NickFire

Member
I can’t imagine Triple H putting the real belt on Rock, he’s got his dumb custom, and much like last year Rock/Roman does not need to be for a title. I think Cody/Orion makes for a better title match, and some of that is I truly don’t think Rock has anything left in the tank. I mean he managed to hurt himself in the tag match last year didn’t he? How can he handle a one on one with anyone other than Romans slow match style he developed.
Yeah, as I was typing that I remembered the fake title to have a title he carries. And they could fight over that red bead necklace thing for tribal chief bragging rights.
 

rkofan87

Gold Member
I feel bad that Drew/Punk, who's feud has been building to this type of match at a PPV named Bad Blood didn't get the main event treatment it deserved instead of garbage tag match just so we could get his almighty ego a minute on screen at the end only to disappear and come back in two months talking about goosebumps or some shit.

This PPV was a big miss for me other then the Drew/Punk match. Both women's matches were awful, and that ref both in the Liv/Rhea match was terrible. Stupid Saudi segment didn't help either when many including me were really hoping this was finally gonna be a women's IC title.
on the womens ic hope i was the same.
 

Soodanim

Member
"Final boss engaged" nonsense makes me cringe every time. It's terrible. I also don't want him come back, the shark jumping attention seeker didn't add anything. And that title he carries is a load of shit.
 

Dthomp

Member
"Final boss engaged" nonsense makes me cringe every time. It's terrible. I also don't want him come back, the shark jumping attention seeker didn't add anything. And that title he carries is a load of shit.

Yup, it's super lame and yeah he just needs to stay away. He was great IN HIS TIME, that has past and his jacked up steroid body can't handle wrestling anymore, stick to wrecking franchises in Hollywood and enjoy your position at TKO for reasons??? the product was already super hot WITHOUT him inserting himself into the mix, he added nothing with his last return. WM would sell out with me being in it, he didn't sell tickets that weren't already planned to be sold. Let the newer and fading generations have their time FFS.
 

dave_d

Member
BTW for those that missed it tonight's RAW is 2 hours. (I hope this means a tighter show. RAW at 3 hours does seem like they're stretching it out for time.)
 

Dthomp

Member
BTW for those that missed it tonight's RAW is 2 hours. (I hope this means a tighter show. RAW at 3 hours does seem like they're stretching it out for time.)
Haven't they already confirmed that it's back to 3 hours when it moves to Netflix, and that SD will be 3 hours when it moves to USA?
 

dave_d

Member
Haven't they already confirmed that it's back to 3 hours when it moves to Netflix, and that SD will be 3 hours when it moves to USA?
I don't think they've confirm anything but I wouldn't be surprised. (Oh and SD is already on USA but is 2 hrs. Not sure if they'll bump it to 3 when RAW leaves.)
 

Soodanim

Member
Do we need 3 hours of Raw? Other than more advertising opportunities I don't see what the benefit is. You're burning through more ideas and inevitably have more filler. I bet 2 hours would be a lot more appealing to a lot of people.

I'm still curious as to what the Netflix set up wil be. Ads as normal? Live stream? Presumably not skippable until after the first airing.
 

DKehoe

Member
Do we need 3 hours of Raw? Other than more advertising opportunities I don't see what the benefit is. You're burning through more ideas and inevitably have more filler. I bet 2 hours would be a lot more appealing to a lot of people.

I'm still curious as to what the Netflix set up wil be. Ads as normal? Live stream? Presumably not skippable until after the first airing.
The extra hour really dragged it down but they were getting so much money for it that they were never going to turn it down. But like you say a 2 hour show is more appealing to more people so it always felt like it was a short-sighted move that would burn through their audience much quicker.

Does Netflix do ads for live stuff? I don't think I've watched anything live on there. I guess I could maybe see them doing something where they structure the show to have sections for ads for people on the ad-supported tier but those on the premium tiers don't get those cutaways.
 

NickFire

Member
Haven't they already confirmed that it's back to 3 hours when it moves to Netflix, and that SD will be 3 hours when it moves to USA?
I saw HHH talk about this. Might have been the presser. I don't think they know for sure as of last weekend at least.
 

DKehoe

Member
At the time he was a huge draw. As a kid I can't think of a bigger draw than Andre and then eventually Hogan.
Bruno was pretty much the biggest draw of his era. Vince has been able to rewrite so much of wrestling history and as a result Bruno's achievements and importance have been downplayed. Whereas someone like Andre, who still played an important role in Vince's era, still got highlighted. It's also partly because Bruno was critical of Vince over the years. But there's a reason Bruno was the main event and Andre/Hogan wasn't. The Bruno/Zybysko feud was selling out everywhere they went, whereas Hogan/Andre weren't.

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dave_d

Member
Well that's interesting. Corny made a crack about Oba Femi accent and got called racist which he talks about here



The weird part? Oba's accent might actually be fake.

 

Soodanim

Member
Well that's interesting. Corny made a crack about Oba Femi accent and got called racist which he talks about here



The weird part? Oba's accent might actually be fake.


Wrestling Reddit, which is where most of it probably stems from (also Twitter), can’t wait to call Corny everything under the sun. You can tell who actually listens to Jim and who doesn't, because I hear all these accusations and I think "We aren't listening to the same podcasts".

They refuse any context for anything and forever hold onto things to justify their group think hatred of him. Like Jim being "homophobic" about Kenny, which IIRC comes from him calling self-trained Kenny "Twinkletoes" - a name earned because of what Jim calls "Happy feet", where green wrestlers don't have the relaxed footwork of experienced guys and take lots of quick steps.

More to the point, apparently it's racist when they hear Jim criticise Oba Femi's speaking voice but they don't say anything when Ospreay is criticised for very similar things. I guess they can't get him on racism charges there. Both guys are criticised under the same lens - how the promo sounds as a finished product.

They get so conflicted when Jim does something they agree with, like recently when he tweeted about Undertaker and Kane with Trump. They throw in every qualifier under the sun because there's no grey areas with them, and when he's not actively being a racist exist transphobic homophobic bigot by criticising a wrestler they like any statement of agreement is followed by lines of qualifiers about how Jim is still the devil incarnate but he's right on that rare occasion.
 

RavageX

Member
Wrestling Reddit, which is where most of it probably stems from (also Twitter), can’t wait to call Corny everything under the sun. You can tell who actually listens to Jim and who doesn't, because I hear all these accusations and I think "We aren't listening to the same podcasts".

They refuse any context for anything and forever hold onto things to justify their group think hatred of him. Like Jim being "homophobic" about Kenny, which IIRC comes from him calling self-trained Kenny "Twinkletoes" - a name earned because of what Jim calls "Happy feet", where green wrestlers don't have the relaxed footwork of experienced guys and take lots of quick steps.

More to the point, apparently it's racist when they hear Jim criticise Oba Femi's speaking voice but they don't say anything when Ospreay is criticised for very similar things. I guess they can't get him on racism charges there. Both guys are criticised under the same lens - how the promo sounds as a finished product.

They get so conflicted when Jim does something they agree with, like recently when he tweeted about Undertaker and Kane with Trump. They throw in every qualifier under the sun because there's no grey areas with them, and when he's not actively being a racist exist transphobic homophobic bigot by criticising a wrestler they like any statement of agreement is followed by lines of qualifiers about how Jim is still the devil incarnate but he's right on that rare occasion.
Its funny a lot of the time. I listen to him almost exclusively and I dont recall hearing him say anything I would consider racist. That comment about the accent...how is an accent racist? If you point out someone having an accent...fake or not then how is it racist?

Its weird how some people feel they should be offended by something inoffensive. Get outraged about REAL racism. Someone being denied help, or acts of violence.

Call out people responsible for shit like that, not for comparing an actor doing an african accent to another person with an accent(?).

That sounds stupid, lol.
 

DKehoe

Member
Anyone got any recommendations for a good podcast on wrestling history? The 80s onwards has been covered to death so I’m looking for something which covers older stuff, particularly guys like Hackenschmidt, Gotch, Burns, Muldoon and Lewis.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ugh man this fucking sucks. Rhea just got back from an injury not too long ago and she's out again indefinitely.

 

Dthomp

Member
Ugh man this fucking sucks. Rhea just got back from an injury not too long ago and she's out again indefinitely.


Starting to get concerned about Rhea being too injury prone. Seems like she picks up a significant injury each year. Not sure if it's her intense style or a mix of that and just bad luck, but it's already been a problem and it's hard to build a division around somebody who seems to miss half of each year.
 

DKehoe

Member
Some footage of a match from 1908 featuring George Hackenschmidt, the first world champion and one of the biggest stars in wrestling history, has been restored and made available online. It’s the first time people have been able to see a video of him.
 
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