Officerrob
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Gotta respect that hustle
Conrad Link
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Sting losing that way made me legit angry.
The war ended over a decade ago but they still have to keep up the LOL WE WON stuff to stroke their egos. -_-
I doubt Sting was actively out there each week on WCW trying to destroy HHH's family and put them out of business before it was even his family.
He's just an old legend who use to wrestle and was popular somewhere else. And the WWE can't stand it?
Basically the exact reasons he was worried about going to the WWE before? They'd just Booker T him. Why the shit did he agree to this? :/
The war ended over a decade ago but they still have to keep up the LOL WE WON stuff to stroke their egos. -_-
I doubt Sting was actively out there each week on WCW trying to destroy HHH's family and put them out of business before it was even his family.
He's just an old legend who use to wrestle and was popular somewhere else. And the WWE can't stand it?
Basically the exact reasons he was worried about going to the WWE before? They'd just Booker T him. Why the shit did he agree to this? :/
Ddp was there too! Bunch of pica of him on twitter
Mr. Enigma
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The ending to Sting/HHH was a total clusterfuck and made zero sense. And what the fuck was up with JBL turning it into a WWF vs. WCW thing? Shit all around. Sting should have known they would do that to him.
Hall of fame. Merch sales, dvds, money from the network for the dvd residuals, possibly more matches down the line. WRESTLEMANIA MOMENT
Officerrob
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I don't care if he was there live, that's fucking crazy
Jimmy King
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There wasn't a match as good as H/Bryan or a cathartic moment/culmination of a story like Bryan's, but I think what this Mania lacked in quality it made up for in quantity of ridiculous moments that were so dumb they were good.
I may be biased tho
I may be biased tho
MaulerX
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Honest question as I personally wasn't aware... When did we find out this was a no DQ match? It was never billed as one that I'm aware off. I think it was half way thru the match that the announcer's made that revelation. But I'm not sure. I'm semi convinced there were last minute changes there just like the main event.
Sledgehammer+bat usually means no dq, for both guys
We didn't know live until Lillian said the only way to win was by pinfall or submission.
serenewarfare
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No. When they first were doing entrances the ring announcer said "the following contest is scheduled for one fall and can only end by pinfall or submission". Kind of like the Rock/Austin match at X7.
That's when everyone learned.
Dark Ninja
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Meltzers a Mark of the highest caliber
mariachi507
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What an insightful post, do you have a blog that I could subscribe to?
As for Mania.
The show completely exceeded my very low expectations. The only reason I tuned in was because of Brock resigning with the company. The main event was great with Brock demolishing Reigns, as he should. My only complaints were that Reigns kicked out of three F-5's which should never happen. This guy is turning into Super Duper Super Saiyan Cena and that is not the direction he needs to be took in. Also, in my opinion he looked a little green early in the match with the stiffness, and it didn't seem like Brock appreciated that much. His constant smile/smirk is really annoying as well. My heart skipped a beat when Reigns hit Brock with the flurry of Superman Punches and Spears towards the end since it looked like Brock was losing. Now that the match is over I can say that I really liked that sequence. Brock looked like a damn monster getting up from every finishing move while bloodied, it was perfect booking. I hate using this term but it was very "cinematic". Having Rollins pin Reigns was a brilliant decision which makes everyone go home happy. We get a title change which gives the storyline plenty of potential, and Brock remains the beast incarnate. Good job WWE, you did a very good damn job tonight.
MaulerX
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Conrad Link
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I doubt Sting needs cash, and HoF and DVD sets can come without letting HHH/Vince piss all over you and the place you were so loyal to forever first can't it?
Wait, I forgot who I was talking about for a second there. Of course it can't.
Its honestly a bit weird how they did exactly the things he said he was worried about happening before.
Just seems weird he'd not care for so long then suddenly decide he wanted a WM appearance even if it was just getting shat on. Maybe he just doesn't care about that shit, he should though.
I love you, and I made sure Dean destroyed our pictures so don't worry.
Wait, I forgot who I was talking about for a second there. Of course it can't.
Its honestly a bit weird how they did exactly the things he said he was worried about happening before.
Just seems weird he'd not care for so long then suddenly decide he wanted a WM appearance even if it was just getting shat on. Maybe he just doesn't care about that shit, he should though.
I love you, and I made sure Dean destroyed our pictures so don't worry.
BadAss2961
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I feel the same way.
Wouldn't have been so bad had he lost to Taker. But Triple H, the guy who ironically buries more people than the Undertaker himself, nah... I watch casually, but the buildup to the match didn't seem like a WWE vs WCW thing, yet that's the theme they ran with tonight as Sting was booked to job.
Serpens007
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"The following contest is set for one fall, and the only way to win is by pinfall or submission" is where I realised this was a No holds barred match.
reptilescorpio
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Nah he can still do it fine. First 2 attempts he stayed up so H could break the hold. 3rd time he locked it in he was kneeling all the way down close to H.
After the first 2 attempts I had the same thought but he proved it was just part of the storytelling in the end thankfully.
LOL. Nah he said "Thank you so much"; but your version is pretty good too. I think Reigns/Ambrose/Rollins are being positioned as Rock/SCSA/HHH of the current generation. WWE is sitting on so much talent...I sort of think they should bring the Smackdown & RAW split back. Going to be a good few years, I think.
Paracelsus
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The whole Sting match is kind of WWE's take on the Monday Night Wars, because they legitimately think it's stuff like DX that saved the WWF, that HHH helped killing WCW. They probably reject with their whole beings that it was more an issue of wcw imploding.
BadAss2961
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True, but everyone and their mother kicks out of multiple finishers at Mania now. They've really played that out.
serenewarfare
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Yeah, but not even Taker kicked out of 3 F5s.
SquashMatch
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Thoughts on WM 31
-Ladder Match was good but I honestly expected a bit more, still a solid start to the evening with the right guy winning.
-The Orton RKO spot is hands down the greatest spot in the history of Wrestlemania. Because he has been around so long, and his character can be stale sometimes, I think we all forget just how good Orton can be when motivated.
-The Sting-HHH match was just stupid for ONE specific reason. I didn't like the result but that isn't the reason, I actually enjoyed the run ins and marked out for an nwo/dx meelee. The handshake was the reason I was upset. Guy smashed you with a sledgehammer and then you shake his hand??
-Also the handshake symbolizes a face turn for HHH but within a few segments he is an asshole heel again. Makes zero sense and made the whole match a big disappointment.
-Didnt watch the divas match, not really into women's wrestling, not trying to be rude, just being honest.
- Rusev has nowhere to go from here, he is now just another guy who is no longer special and another guy who is worse off for working with Cena.
- Bray Wyatt has nowhere to go from here, he is also now a guy who is no longer special.
-Undertaker looked great!! Really took his training seriously and it showed. That being said age is catching up to him in the ring.
- Sting also in great shape!! Stings hair not so much, looks terrible!
-The squandered momentum and terrible booking of Bray Wyatt should be a case study for how to destroy a performer. Pathetic.
- Brock Lesnar is special. For a guy labeled as a mercenary and someone who dosent care he consistently puts on the performance of the night whenever he is on the card. If he had not been gone so long I think he would have become the greatest pro wrestler of all time. So,so,so glad he re-signed!!
- Reigns just isn't ready, guy has a great look and charisma but he is green and he is just too limited with his moveset.
-Happy for Seth Rollins but still unsure if he has the total package to be a top tier guy, love him in the ring though!! His entrance music is ass and unworthy of a top guy. Also needs to drop the two lackeys, makes him look small time.
-Stephanie is great!! Segment with Rock and Rousey was good but waaaaaay too long!!
- No more west coast Wrestlemania's unless it's in an indoor stadium!! Sunlight detracts from the atmosphere!!
-After WWE doctors originally said he could have ZERO physical altercations, Hulk Hogan took a decent bump tonight into the ring post. He is going to have another match whether we like it or not, its going to happen.
- I hope we get a few matches out of Sting. Would be sad if his WWE legacy was going 0-2 at Wrestlemania. The more I think about it the more it kind of pisses me off that he did the job tonight.
-Ladder Match was good but I honestly expected a bit more, still a solid start to the evening with the right guy winning.
-The Orton RKO spot is hands down the greatest spot in the history of Wrestlemania. Because he has been around so long, and his character can be stale sometimes, I think we all forget just how good Orton can be when motivated.
-The Sting-HHH match was just stupid for ONE specific reason. I didn't like the result but that isn't the reason, I actually enjoyed the run ins and marked out for an nwo/dx meelee. The handshake was the reason I was upset. Guy smashed you with a sledgehammer and then you shake his hand??
-Also the handshake symbolizes a face turn for HHH but within a few segments he is an asshole heel again. Makes zero sense and made the whole match a big disappointment.
-Didnt watch the divas match, not really into women's wrestling, not trying to be rude, just being honest.
- Rusev has nowhere to go from here, he is now just another guy who is no longer special and another guy who is worse off for working with Cena.
- Bray Wyatt has nowhere to go from here, he is also now a guy who is no longer special.
-Undertaker looked great!! Really took his training seriously and it showed. That being said age is catching up to him in the ring.
- Sting also in great shape!! Stings hair not so much, looks terrible!
-The squandered momentum and terrible booking of Bray Wyatt should be a case study for how to destroy a performer. Pathetic.
- Brock Lesnar is special. For a guy labeled as a mercenary and someone who dosent care he consistently puts on the performance of the night whenever he is on the card. If he had not been gone so long I think he would have become the greatest pro wrestler of all time. So,so,so glad he re-signed!!
- Reigns just isn't ready, guy has a great look and charisma but he is green and he is just too limited with his moveset.
-Happy for Seth Rollins but still unsure if he has the total package to be a top tier guy, love him in the ring though!! His entrance music is ass and unworthy of a top guy. Also needs to drop the two lackeys, makes him look small time.
-Stephanie is great!! Segment with Rock and Rousey was good but waaaaaay too long!!
- No more west coast Wrestlemania's unless it's in an indoor stadium!! Sunlight detracts from the atmosphere!!
-After WWE doctors originally said he could have ZERO physical altercations, Hulk Hogan took a decent bump tonight into the ring post. He is going to have another match whether we like it or not, its going to happen.
- I hope we get a few matches out of Sting. Would be sad if his WWE legacy was going 0-2 at Wrestlemania. The more I think about it the more it kind of pisses me off that he did the job tonight.
BadAss2961
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Next year someone will probably kick out of 4 F5s.
MaulerX
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What's worse is that Sting made it clear on RAW he wasn't fighting for WCW or some "long forgotten war".. Because at this point it would be "ridiculous". Yet WWE framed it as such wich didn't make sense. I just feel they were at odds and there was some back stage politics involved. It's just so ironic that Sting never went to WWE out of fear of what they did to him tonight.
Aeternus Malum
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If this is the case; they are almost certainly doing Cena / Hogan at WM 32. (Or Cena/Hogan in a tag match against someone else).
aspiegamer
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This is going to end up a divisive WM.
The wrestling was largely blah but the wrasslin' carried the entire show. Two old guys in the ring? Call up an army of retired acquaintances of warring factions to spice it up. Need to drum up maximum hype for a US vs USSR Russia match where the outcome is as certain as a 20-0 Undertaker streak match? Bring one guy in on a goddamn tank. Main event guy can't wrestle? Make it a painful, bloody wrasslin' brawl instead. Crappy endings booked? If they all end up awful it accidentally comes full circle to be great wrasslin'. More goddamn Authority mic time? Call in Vegeta. Wrasslin'! Finishers no longer mean a damn thing? Wrasslin'!
RAW should be fun, even though I have absolutely no idea what they're going to fill the show with other than Rollins opening. Many of the matches were total one-offs. Crowd will praise Rollins as Our Lord And Savior. And he really was. Reigns getting completely dominated but still kicking out of everything was painful and proto-Cena levels of cringing we've never seen before.
Reigns will still get his time. He should be in much better form in a year. If he keeps actually trying in the ring and learns how to speak coherently into a foam ball he will slowly win people over. Some actually character wouldn't hurt, either. There's no reason for people to be compelled to dislike him if he's booked well and/or goes hard heel.
One lasting impressions will be how apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON thought ahead of time about daylight issues. From the day it was announced through this afternoon, not one single WWE staff member. Hell, they even started the "pre-show" stuff EARLY and stacked the matches into the first hour!
The wrestling was largely blah but the wrasslin' carried the entire show. Two old guys in the ring? Call up an army of retired acquaintances of warring factions to spice it up. Need to drum up maximum hype for a US vs USSR Russia match where the outcome is as certain as a 20-0 Undertaker streak match? Bring one guy in on a goddamn tank. Main event guy can't wrestle? Make it a painful, bloody wrasslin' brawl instead. Crappy endings booked? If they all end up awful it accidentally comes full circle to be great wrasslin'. More goddamn Authority mic time? Call in Vegeta. Wrasslin'! Finishers no longer mean a damn thing? Wrasslin'!
RAW should be fun, even though I have absolutely no idea what they're going to fill the show with other than Rollins opening. Many of the matches were total one-offs. Crowd will praise Rollins as Our Lord And Savior. And he really was. Reigns getting completely dominated but still kicking out of everything was painful and proto-Cena levels of cringing we've never seen before.
Reigns will still get his time. He should be in much better form in a year. If he keeps actually trying in the ring and learns how to speak coherently into a foam ball he will slowly win people over. Some actually character wouldn't hurt, either. There's no reason for people to be compelled to dislike him if he's booked well and/or goes hard heel.
One lasting impressions will be how apparently NOT A SINGLE PERSON thought ahead of time about daylight issues. From the day it was announced through this afternoon, not one single WWE staff member. Hell, they even started the "pre-show" stuff EARLY and stacked the matches into the first hour!
BadAss2961
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The nWo also took a subtle L to DX for the cherry on top. Disgusting.
Ninja Scooter
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Hogan can barely walk he's not having another match.
The guys on the LAW seem to think we could get Taker/Cena next year if Sting doesn't stick around. I'd still like to see Taker go out getting revenge on Brock in some way if Brock isn't in the title picture a year from now.
The guys on the LAW seem to think we could get Taker/Cena next year if Sting doesn't stick around. I'd still like to see Taker go out getting revenge on Brock in some way if Brock isn't in the title picture a year from now.
SquashMatch
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Hypothetical of course but if that happened you would likely have the last matches of Sting, Undertaker, and Hulk Hogan all on the same card. That would be a pretty damn special Wrestlemania!!
Conrad Link
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Thats another issue I can't stand, for some reason they think Road f**king Dog and stuff are on the same level as mainline nWo era.
DX driving around on a jeep didn't end the f**king war, it really wasn't as cool as they think it was.
History is written by the winners sadly, if only HHH was half as good at penning weekly Raws as he is at re-writing himself as the most important part of the most popular time in wrestling.
GraveRobberX
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Read up the results, sucks I couldn't watch it, now hoping RAW tomorrow is off the chains which is always amazing after Wrestlemania
HHH got his buddies paid for that in ring fiasco, that's all that was, I mean there pthetr wrestlers who could have had a match and earned a bonus, but nope HHH is becoming just like his father-in-law
When Vince croaks and HHH takes the reigns, we'll get a few years of golden era -esque quality then he'll become senile like the old man and long for the ol' days and fuck up the corporation, by then Stephanie Jr's. Will be coming into their own and create drama while I'll be in my death bed.
HHH got his buddies paid for that in ring fiasco, that's all that was, I mean there pthetr wrestlers who could have had a match and earned a bonus, but nope HHH is becoming just like his father-in-law
When Vince croaks and HHH takes the reigns, we'll get a few years of golden era -esque quality then he'll become senile like the old man and long for the ol' days and fuck up the corporation, by then Stephanie Jr's. Will be coming into their own and create drama while I'll be in my death bed.
Paracelsus
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Phil said:
Sting and Hogan aside, that match involved the original Kliq and the neo-Kliq. A run-in at WM is worth tens of thousands of dollars.
Simply Sami
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I don't get the Stephanie love.
She constantly puts every superstar down with no comeuppance apart from today. Atleast when Vince did it there was some sort of end.
She constantly puts every superstar down with no comeuppance apart from today. Atleast when Vince did it there was some sort of end.
The point was that Roman Reigns is still popular despite the fact that a vocal part of the audience booed him, and that WWE is not reversing course on Reigns.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Its not okay for the male wrestlers to hit her anymore.
For reasons that probably should have been obvious back when they had Vince choking her with a pipe a few years back.
That sounds about right. Sting/HHH was the epitome of that. It was so dumb it couldn't not be fun.
The real problem here is that this extends to all of the divas too. She always completely owns every one of them and never gets anything back from them. They need to eventually go through with Steph/AJ at some point and not have it go over the way Steph/Brie did.
GraveRobberX
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PG-Era bruh
With all the domestic violence running rampant through the media, not a good look for the WWE
Was OK during attitude era but it has shifted away from it
MaulerX
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While WCW made horrible decisions during the last year, the beginning of the end (to me) was when Ted Turner merged with Time Warner (the worst thing he could have done). At that point he lost ownership and control of the company and Time Warner never wanted to be in that business. Ted Turner truly loved the sport and was willing to lose money on it as a consequence. If that merger never happened who knows where we would be.
Shadowlink
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Not sure how it looked like on the WWE Network, but the majority of the crowd at Levi Stadium booed the hell out of Roman Reigns.
It came through loud and clear.
Paracelsus
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I know, but this doesn't sit well with WWE, and winners write history. Thing is, historians don't have to deal with smarks.
They could've removed the audio track off the network and you would still hear the boos.
Conrad Link
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I've been bitching about the Stephanie and Authority problem for ages, there is nothing to even it out. It always ends with "SEE, WE ALWAYS WIN LOL".
Vince was brilliant at doing dicky shit but then knew he had to do the job and *throat gulp* to give people the payoff they wanted.
Even when the Authority lose they end up winning, then they come out and gloat and shit on whoever is 'opposing or disrespecting' them it all becomes really boring.
Character wise its sad she has taken more influence from HHH than she has from her Dad. Steph always having to remind everyone, even random Divas that she is the biggest and bestest around so DON'T F**K WITH ME CAUSE YOU CAN'T just gets so boring.
Vince was brilliant at doing dicky shit but then knew he had to do the job and *throat gulp* to give people the payoff they wanted.
Even when the Authority lose they end up winning, then they come out and gloat and shit on whoever is 'opposing or disrespecting' them it all becomes really boring.
Character wise its sad she has taken more influence from HHH than she has from her Dad. Steph always having to remind everyone, even random Divas that she is the biggest and bestest around so DON'T F**K WITH ME CAUSE YOU CAN'T just gets so boring.
GraveRobberX
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Where was Lobster Head, Too many Limes @?
Guessing he will be a surprise heel tomorrow for either Cena or Bryan
Guessing he will be a surprise heel tomorrow for either Cena or Bryan
oh, we heard it.
they were outright hostile to him during his walk through the audience, and every time he mounted any type of offense there were THUNDEROUS boos
I think this is just as much to blame for the reaction to the Rumble as anything. They kept gloating and putting down Bryan after he got injured, never giving him the true credit that he had earned and thus negating the whole point of his story, so uh... What the fuck do you expect us to want after he comes back?
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