I've reached a point where I pretty much only use my MacBook to write, browse, and as a storage device for my photos; so the iPad Pro is very interesting to me. The odd thing for me is that I use an Apple extended keyboard II with a bunch of adapters for writing, so I think I'll buy the cheap iPad first and see if it's for me.
WWDC 2017 |OT| iOS 11, macOS 10.13, watchOS 4 & tvOS 11
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badcrumble
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For sure. I'm just saying that Apple adding that feature is 100% a strategic move for the Asia market and has nothing to do with the US. (Although QR codes or something similar will likely become increasingly common as an affordable means for augmented reality stuff rather than as something you individually scan - filling the world with NFC tags would be too expensive)
Yes.
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Does the Extended Keyboard II ultimately connect over USB? If so, you might be able to use it with an iPad with one of these.
I'm actually considering an iPad Pro over a laptop but the one thing really holding me back is lack of mouse/trackpad support for the same reasons you mentioned.
A pretty serious amount of my use would be at a desk, and typing on a keyboard and reaching to the screen is absolutely awful. I never use my iPad Air 2 for actual work at a desk for that very reason, and while the software/hardware in the Pro is better those have never been problems exactly on my Air 2. It's all the reaching over the keyboard.
I mean... I am the biggest QR code hater in the world.. ok, not literally.. but yeah, I have NEVER understood where using a QR code is ever more convenient than the other way of accessing it. Like, I don't care about your shitty marketing. No I don't want to go through the hassle of loading up an app, to scan a code, for you to sell me something..
with that being said, moving it over to smart recognition in the camera app, which is a swipe away from my lock screen, and transitioning QR codes from marketing to something useful... shit, now THAT I can get on board with.
my hope (uggh. hope..) is that now that QR codes will be potentially ubiquitous with 500M plus users.. that places will start using them for more than just marketing. let me scan a QR code on a bus stop sign to be instantly taken to that bus lines' schedule. that sort of thing.
It's amazing how long JPEG, developed 25 years ago, has stuck around as the default image format. I'm glad we're finally moving forward.
HEIF is an awkward sounding name, though.
The patent situation is a disaster, so there's literally less than zero chance of that happening.
I'm not sure what Apple are thinking with this format to be honest. It's reasonably good as a format (though the container is unnecessarily complex) but it will effectively be an Apple only image format, with all the pain in the ass that that entails.
This to me is a very interesting prospect. Can anybody confirm if this works please?
Really considering getting a new iPad Pro instead of a high end Windows laptop now. Was about to jump on a razer blade after selling my high end 13" MPB. but then upon further thought I realised that I only really use a laptop for browsing and watching videos. After seeing my wife use PiP with Netflix on her Air 2, I thought that was really neat and I think with the iOS11 refinements it should be even better.
Whilst it would be nice to have a laptop capable of playing high end games, the use case isn't really there for me since I prefer to play on my desktop anyway. So I'm okay with having that clear dividing line between my desktop and portable systems. This way, I also save a bit of money which can go toward a new desktop next year.
The iPad Pro now seems like a solution which walks the line very well between mobile tablet device and a conventional laptop/notebook. I would really like to know how much RAM is in these things. Also considering picking one up from the US, because the prices are crazy here in the UK, especially for the Pencil and cover cases.
People said "What was Apple thinking?" when they chose AAC over MP3, but the rest of the industry eventually followed suit.
I too am interested in knowing this. Would be a shame if they kept it at 2GB
Am buying one anyway though, going from an Air 1. It's nearly 4 years old at this point and only has 1GB RAM
So I noticed some iPad Air 2 discussion in the thread - has anyone tried installing the beta on this device? Any impressions?
Of course it's not realistic to judge performance, being a beta - I was thinking more in the line of missing features. Apparently the "hover"-multitasking requires 4 GB RAM, and should therefore be missing - but might there be anything else, as well?
Edit: .. On the note of RAM in 10.5, as you discuss above and below - I guess the 4 GB requirement for hover multitasking, which I base off this tweet from Steven Troughton-Smith, would confirm 4 GB of RAM in the 10.5 Pro? Since it apparently supports the feature.
Of course it's not realistic to judge performance, being a beta - I was thinking more in the line of missing features. Apparently the "hover"-multitasking requires 4 GB RAM, and should therefore be missing - but might there be anything else, as well?
Edit: .. On the note of RAM in 10.5, as you discuss above and below - I guess the 4 GB requirement for hover multitasking, which I base off this tweet from Steven Troughton-Smith, would confirm 4 GB of RAM in the 10.5 Pro? Since it apparently supports the feature.
Is it any different from HEVC?
Zeyphersan
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Ha, youre right. They took out iOS integration for twitter and Facebook as Vimeo and such as well
Not at the moment
That's really kludgy. I miss the swipe left.
There is no swipe left, so it's gone. You have to do two or three additional actions to do the same thing...(swipe up, hope its in the Dock, hold the icon and drag it carefully over...)
Seriously, it's a big downgrade that I hope they fix
badcrumble
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Tbh they should add this into the News app, Nuzzel-style.
I'd also almost be down for having the Safari Reading List read-later stuff nudged into News somehow too. But combining the featureset of Nuzzel and a better RSS experience into the News app would actually get me to use it over Reeder/Feedly/Flipboard. I think it'd be brilliant for Apple to let third-party apps inject items into News (with user permission, of course), thus more properly letting paid subscriptions really work as needed.
I'm enough of a news addict that I have a bunch of different sources for news, each with different strengths, and it's annoying that I can't get some best-of-the-best featuresets distilled into a single app.
Oh. I didn't think about this and that sucks
I remember hearing somewhere that you can drag the slide over app off screen. Can anyone in the beta confirm this? If that does work, does it work as well as the old slide over for sliding the app on and off the screen?
Even if sliding in an app quickly is gone, maybe it won't be so bad since you can change to your full screen favorite apps quicker now with the Dock.
Question about the Dock to anybody running the iOS 11 beta: When you fill your Dock with a ton of apps (I remember hearing that you can put as many there as you want), do the app icons get smaller, like on the Mac, or is the Dock scrollable, or is it some other implementation?
Smaller, like the Mac. There is a cap on how many apps you can have at once (on my iPad mini 4, it seems to be 11 apps + 3 recents).
Incredibly minor change to the MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook: the option and control keys now have their "shortcut" symbols printed directly on the keys.
Inexcusable that they weren't on there before. I have been using a Mac as my primary machine for going on ten years and I still don't know off the top of my head which of those icons is associated with which key.
Incredibly minor change to the MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook: the option and control keys now have their "shortcut" symbols printed directly on the keys.
Good. I don't even know why they removed them in the first place. Having those symbols on menus but not on the keyboard is extremely confusing for newer users.
Control really needs a new symbol, though. It's too easily confused with the caret, and too similar to shift.
Interesting. I could have swore I heard somewhere that it was as many as you want, which I take to mean unlimited. Also, I would have never thought Apple would ever rescale tapable app icons.
That's probably why there's a cap: they'd be too small to reliably tap at a certain point.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Really want to pick up one of the 12" Macbooks for the wife, but I dunno if I should go with the 256GB or 512GB SKU. Hmm.
CrudeDiatribe
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Historical symbol for control is the caret though. ISO symbol looks like a ship's wheel though, so I guess that could be adopted though I think it doesn't look as neat.
I understand the history, but having a ^ above both the 6 and the control key is counter-intuitive.
The Real Abed
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Incredibly minor change to the MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook: the option and control keys now have their "shortcut" symbols printed directly on the keys.
My god, seriously. I always forget which one does what. Every single time. I end up having to open a menu and press the key to see which symbol changes an option just to find out which one is Control and which is Option.
That shit is dead son. Phablet phones have made that size obsolete.
I agree that this would be a nice feature, but using the pencil in conjunction w/ my BT keyboard makes it a pretty decent experience. I don't have to hunch over and I get things done relatively quickly though a mouse would be quicker. I'm forced to use my setup in tight spaces sometimes when on the road and for that the pencil works fine as a pointing device.
I still wish they'd go all in and make iPad Pro more a MacOS experience but these iOS improvements might be enough to make me comfortable.
There may be deals or refurbished devices at that time.
I don't think the 7.9" iPad form factor is long for this world.
Michael F. Assbender
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Im loving the screenshot markup ability. The pic shows up on the lower left. Swipe if off to save it (or do nothing). Or tap it to write/draw on it. Send/save/delete it from there. Fantastic stuff.
Got the Shakes
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So I know that Apple is shipping iPads for deliver next week. Yesterday if you ordered it was June 13th delivery, today it is June 14th. Do we know yet if they are going to sell them in stores starting early next week as well? I'm thinking of replacing my Air 2 with the new 10.5" Pro, would love to go and mess with one first before deciding on a purchase (and I would also love confirmation that the smaller size also get the 4 gb of RAM).
Baroquemantic
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More than anything, I was hoping they would announce that at least the iPad would get multi-user support.
If you take another screenshot when the overlay omitted in the next screen shot or can you inception cascading screenshots? lol
Bruce Springsteen
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iOS 11 is truly an iPad Pro update, thank you Apple for making my iPad relevant again
Looking forward to running the public beta on my 9.7" pro
Looking forward to running the public beta on my 9.7" pro
Oh, I know. It doesn't have to do with money. It's more along the line of...Do i buy the new one now and get the same old iPad/iOS experience , or buy one fresh this fall with all the new features. (In a stable form) I'm leaning towards the latter as it will make it feel like a much more 'fresh' experience.
Also, been wanting to buy an Apple Watch for a while now, and those Toy Story faces got me hype, so one of those will be mine this fall as well
Michael F. Assbender
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yes they will have them in stores next week. Quantities (or constraints) unknown at this point. That they still haven't slipped online is promising.
I am a "day 1 in a month". This thing is incredible and a long overdue upgrade for my Air (people saying their Air still works perfect.. I am totally calling you out on that BS.. yeah if you mean turning on a video and letting it play is perfectly. Web browsing and ANY sort of productivity is a lagfest)
I am a "day 1 in a month". This thing is incredible and a long overdue upgrade for my Air (people saying their Air still works perfect.. I am totally calling you out on that BS.. yeah if you mean turning on a video and letting it play is perfectly. Web browsing and ANY sort of productivity is a lagfest)
ALSO: I know we won't officially know about RAM on the new iPad Pro, but we can almost lock in the fact that the 12.9 will once again have 4 GB (I don't see Apple bumping this to even more)...REALLY hope the 10.5 matches that so both products are a match. I'd rather not buy the larger version just to have more RAM.
So far from the little things here and there people are reporting on, it does seem the 10.5 inch will have 4 GB of RAM. Fingers crossed.
So far from the little things here and there people are reporting on, it does seem the 10.5 inch will have 4 GB of RAM. Fingers crossed.
brianmcdoogle
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AAPL stock is up after WWDC? I'm scared....
Michael F. Assbender
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It dropped a fair bit yesterday, if I remember correctly.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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Incredibly minor change to the MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook: the option and control keys now have their "shortcut" symbols printed directly on the keys.
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