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WWDC12 Thread of iOS 6, Mac OS X Mountain Lion and iCloud
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Whogie
Member
I know, it's pretty disappointing -- especially since the Air has a higher res at the same screen size. Like they don't want to get their hands dirty with the current design.
Price. It takes a lot for an equivalent Air.
[Probably] upgradable HDD and RAM.
Faster GPU and CPU. ULV GPUs aren't as fast.
Price. It takes a lot for an equivalent Air.
[Probably] upgradable HDD and RAM.
Cheaper with education discount, a SuperDrive?, more ports, a bigger hd compared to air ssd, a revamped model,....li think that it.
It depends on what you're planning to do on your laptop, but I prefer the Air over the Pro for a few reasons:
-Thinner and lighter
-SSD
-Better screen resolution
The Pro does have an optical drive and more hard drive space, but if you're just doing everyday stuff (Internet, Word Processing, iTunes), I feel that the Air is a better choice. But it does depend a bit on what you're planning to use it for.
Good Job Bob
Member
Would it be possible for a Chrome plug-in to simulate iCloud tabs?
Basically the MBA is 1/3" thinner, 1.5 lbs lighter, and has a better res. MBP has a better processor and 75% more hdd space. They both are the same in just about all other respects including battery life.
I'm having a hard time deciding between those two models as well. We have a 2011 iMac for keeping our multimedia libraries and for heavy duty work. So the notebook would be for simpler work (writing, coding, designing) and play done around the apt, out and about, and while traveling.
At the same price, Air seems like it has the edge since we've got the desktop for anything it can't handle at home. But after the MBA ram upgrade and ed discounts, I'd be passing over a better processor, 75% more hdd space, and $150 for portability. Just seems harder to justify and I start to question how much I'd take it out on the road versus how much I'd need that faster processor and additional hdd space.
I know I'm the only one who knows what I want/need, but I thought posting this out might help organize my thoughts a bit. And hopefully it can help you with your decision as well.
there's absolutely no reason for them not to release a Sandy Bridge update, it might just be a caution at first to make sure they have enough chips for the laptops... then refresh the iMacs around the holidays.
edit... but I guess top of the line iMac would use a chip that wouldn't be used in MBP or nMBP, right?
Well, the new MBP is essentially a MacBook Air isn't it? What apple chooses to call it is arbitrary. Or is it the current MBA price-point you were looking for.
It was very impressive. I thought it was insane how much Apple was rumored to announce at the same time. And even if they didn't do Apple TV or the desktops, having OS X and iOS and new laptops is more than they have ever done at an event. It used to be like E3 at Macworlds, Apple never announce as much as hyped but now it is starting to feel like they have everything running like clockwork and everyone at E3 look like they have been sitting on their hands for years in comparison. And to think they still aren't that massive in terms on number of employees, haven't even expanded into their giant circle HQ yet.
The new Macbook Pro looks realy great, am i seeing it right that it doesn't even say 'Macbook' on it anymore, nothing other thanone Apple logo?
Keep in mind the Air has an SSD by default while it's an expensive option on the Pro. In terms of general responsiveness, the Air beats the Pro handily due to that fact alone, despite being less powerful on paper due to its weaker processor.
Interficium
Banned
Pulled the trigger on the base retina macbook + 16gb ram.
My face when seeing the order confirmation screen:
My face when seeing the order confirmation screen:
The_Inquisitor
Member
Would love this. Probably apple has it locked
Any of them should work. I have a cheap Samsung in a drawer for the once in a blue moon that I need one.
anonymous_abc
Member
what kind of difference will the processor make?
2,3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
vs
2,6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor
vs
2,7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor
seems a very steep price step for little gain on first glance...
I need help, as I want to order ^^
2,3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
vs
2,6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor
vs
2,7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor
seems a very steep price step for little gain on first glance...
I need help, as I want to order ^^
Welp! You're right on calling the Macbook Pro Retina essentially an Air. I was going to respond that I wanted the lighter and smaller form factor of the Air, but upon double checking the Macbook Pro Retina is actually lighter than the Air. I totally glossed over that when I read the conference live blog earlier.
Looks like new iMacs and Mac Pros are coming next year: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/11/david-pogue-new-imacs-and-mac-pros-coming-probably-in-2013/
I don't think that's correct.
The_Inquisitor
Member
Jesus, 18 months till next refresh? Or a small one in between then retina,
Gary Whitta
Member
What? No, not even close. the retina MBP weighs 4.46lbs, Airs are between 2.38 and 2.96lbs.
http://www.apple.com/why-mac/compare/notebooks.html
Well, I just upgraded my `13" MacBook Air (mid-2011)` with a `13" MacBook Air (mid-2012)`.
Selling last year's model for a few hundred less, so I lose a little on the deal, but I gain enough RAM to actually do software development for my clients. And it's probably faster and stuff. So, win-win.
I doubt it. Just decline the FaceTime invitations.
Selling last year's model for a few hundred less, so I lose a little on the deal, but I gain enough RAM to actually do software development for my clients. And it's probably faster and stuff. So, win-win.
I doubt it. Just decline the FaceTime invitations.
Decline with a text message through the new phone ios6 feature > Custom > I'm too poor for a good broadband plan / I downloaded too much porn to facetime this month (just kidding at that last points... I have a shitty 500mb plan)
Because the 13" MBP is the past.
I think I read last month that it's far-and-away the best selling model somehow. Maybe Apple's as confused by that as I am and afraid to mess with it.
Keep in mind that this very well may be the biggest hardware refresh they've ever done in a single day. They typically roll out these generational improvements painstakingly slowly. iMacs have traditionally been bumped just at the tail end of the education buying season (August-September), but they've deviated from that the last couple years as the upgrades have been so incremental.
Hmm, does this mean that if I wanted to, I could run OS X at the display's native resolution?
hmmm
im just thinking
whats the point of getting a 15" macbook retina pro? $2500 in australia
I could get a Macbook Air 13" now for $1300 and then when they upgrade the iMacs get that for $1300 as well
then I can do all my work on the iMac with the bigger screen and have the macbook air for portability...
im just thinking
whats the point of getting a 15" macbook retina pro? $2500 in australia
I could get a Macbook Air 13" now for $1300 and then when they upgrade the iMacs get that for $1300 as well
then I can do all my work on the iMac with the bigger screen and have the macbook air for portability...
What an amazing downgrade in the Maps application. Don't get me wrong, I love turn by turn, and you can't dispute the map data being current, since it's pulling from Yelp and god-knows-where... but the map tiles are aged and pixelated. My condo has been built for 7yrs and yet everything around me is a pixelated dirt-laden mess w/ no signs of suburbia...
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It runs in native res by default. However, all screen elements are 4x the normal size, so they appear the same size as on a 1440x900 screen. Same kind of deal as with iPad 2 vs iPad 3. That settings panel let you customize UI elements size though.
Of course. You're right.
What I had in mind was, you know, using Coda 2 at 2880x1800, with tiny tiny text.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Never thought I would say this, but I think I may actually transition away from Macs, at least for my main computer. I've had my iMac for just over a year now, and without a decent refresh I think I might actually sell it and build my first PC. Maybe a Mac Mini would suffice for a second machine for all my media?
Disappointing...
Disappointing...
Gary Whitta
Member
Shit man, I never thought I'd see someone get that desperate.
anonymous_abc
Member
ok, my wallet is wheeping
just ordered the retina display MBP with 2.7GHz and 16GB Ram, should keep me happy for the next ten years...
just ordered the retina display MBP with 2.7GHz and 16GB Ram, should keep me happy for the next ten years...
SuicideUZI
Member
how much are you selling it for?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
That's really going to be something. Someone on Anandtech article comments suggested this:Of course. You're right.
What I had in mind was, you know, using Coda 2 at 2880x1800, with tiny tiny text.
Sutton Dagger
Member
I'm in Aus, so I'll be looking for about $2000. It originally cost $2700 (I only payed $2200 for it) and I've also put in more ram. I'm leaning more towards gaming on the computer now anyway so a $1300 PC and $700 mac mini would be the perfect combo.
Gary Whitta
Member
Fuck that, I can't even justify it for myself!
shadyspace
Banned
How long have the MBAs had Thunderbolt?
Since 2011 model.
shadyspace
Banned
Holy shit the MBA launched in 2008. Where did the time go.
....after a year?
World wasn't ready for MacBook Air back in 2008 and it took 2 years and the new redesign before they were ready.
Yeah, who buys an iMac if they feel like they may need to upgrade a year later?
Makes me want to wait a few revisions on neoMBP
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
I've never even been tempted to buy any sort of Apple computer, but I don't know if I can resist that retina display o_0