Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Bray's just a fat corny guy. Are you folks being serious? You want that man in sweatpants vs Brock Lesnar?
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lol like anyone thinks Bray's fat ass could beat Lesnar.
He lost to Jericho for fuck's sake.
They really botched Bray, he's just floundering around with no purpose.
I also don't think you can give this rub to Bryan; they basically used their two biggest cards on Lesnar - the Streak and making their 10 years of lolCenaWins / SuperCena into a jobber. Bryan has 2-4 years left, at most (being 33) of a full time wrestler. That's a really short sighted move to please some internet smarks. But if Bryan got dominated? Then you'd see genuine confusion and genuine fear and genuine anger towards Lesnar from the crowd. The only way for Lesnar to get genuine heat from the crowd is to run down Punk and destroy Bryan.
I don't know if Reigns is ready, and I'm pretty sure the smarks are going to crap all over Reigns regardless of what he does, as long as he has the perception of being the "chosen one.". But I am pretty sure you don't give that win to Bryan.
I don't know if Reigns is ready, and I'm pretty sure the smarks are going to crap all over Reigns regardless of what he does, as long as he has the perception of being the "chosen one.". But I am pretty sure you don't give that win to Bryan.
BronsonLee
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Bray is an awesome athlete, an awesome character and the best promo in the WWE (not counting Heyman).
I'd like to see it eventually, but he's kind of spinning his heels here. Needs a fresh angle. I could actually see them returning to Bryan/Wyatt for Wrestlemania 31 because that feud was cut short and their match is still, IMO, the best singles match of the year.
FallingEdge
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I love D.Bry but from a wrestling physique and in ring presence, current day D.Bry isn't close. Dood needs a full blown gimmick change.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I dont think age matters as much in wrestling as it does in other sports.
Flair was 40 when he had the steamboat matches
That was at Elimination Chamber. ER 2013's main event was the Cena/Ryback clustermuck.
Joe Shlabotnik
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In WWE "canon", Lesnar destroying Cena ranks him so far off the charts that you have to break consistency eventually or he keeps the belts forever. It's not a question of whether it's believable for Bryan to beat him because right now no one is believable. Whoever they build up won't make total "sense", so it's no worse for Bryan than anyone else.
BronsonLee
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Flair is timeless though
Oh god you're right~! Ignore me then, I got shit mixed up.
God, that's even worse!
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Everyone's forgetting Brotista.
Bryan's been wrestling for over 15 years already, he started in 1999. Even Cena has less mileage on him than Bryan.
It's not about the age, it's about the mileage. Also, Bryan's in-ring style is based on speed and mat wrestling, not power. (EDIT) The speed part is not likely to age super gracefully, and his recent WWE rise has not been very heavy on mat wrestling.
It's nonsense. Lesnar basically got them an increase in 2012 on the two PPVs he wrestled on against Cena and Triple H (WWE's two biggest stars), but even then, those numbers aren't anywhere near as good as what they were doing even 7 years ago. He's basically been mostly useless since then. When Brotista does a bigger viewership number than you ever have on his return when he's been absent for 4 years and looking like a Teletubby, you're not some huge star.
The Rock is the only legit dude they have who has moved things. Lesnar is just another main eventer. His presence alone doesn't mean anything. It's what they do with him from a storyline perspective.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Good rumble or February program for Brock
Er, why would his mat wrestling fail? That's the one thing he can always fall back on even if he can't do the big dives anymore.
BronsonLee
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...Mat wrestling is literally the one thing that will always work in a wrestler's career.
Sorry, meant to clarify, the speed part would be the part that might not age gracefully. The mat wrestling would age well, but he hasn't been about mat wrestling in the WWE during his meteoric rise, and I think part of the reason the mainstream crowd has gotten behind him is that he is fast and does moves they don't normally see. Daniel Bryan the mat wrestler would probably be an upper mid-card guy.
Master Thespian
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Usually, you can attack a guy's weakness for kayfabe purposes. You can outquick most big guys. Or their fighting acumen was suspect. Brock's better at everything almost anyone you put in there with him in kayfabe AND in reality.
Stronger than almost everyone.
Faster than almost everyone.
Meaner than almost everyone.
A better fighter than everyone.
They just need to have Brock's diverticulitis return in the storyline or do a triple threat where he doesn't get pinned and then you can have Bryan or Reigns go over. I don't think any amount of sensible booking between now an WM31 makes any one person credible enough to beat Brock without shenanigans.
Stronger than almost everyone.
Faster than almost everyone.
Meaner than almost everyone.
A better fighter than everyone.
They just need to have Brock's diverticulitis return in the storyline or do a triple threat where he doesn't get pinned and then you can have Bryan or Reigns go over. I don't think any amount of sensible booking between now an WM31 makes any one person credible enough to beat Brock without shenanigans.
Soyongdori
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Why Lesnar/Heyman are the best heel duo ever in WWE next to the Dudley Boyz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bovr3V56w64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bovr3V56w64
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
As the article states, it was Lesnar's first PPV in 8 years. That's my worry. Hey, Summerslam will get a great bump. But afterward? I don't know if it will sustain.
This is more my line of thinking.
Then maybe you try to convince Rock to go Rock vs Brock at WM 31?
How come I have this sinking feeling we might see the Fingerpoke of Doom tonight?
I think they could keep the belt on Lesnar until Mania. Just build the show around people trying to be (or not be) the Number 1 contender.
Feed Lesnar the Big Show, Orton and maybe even Mark Henry.
Just keep having Heyman on talking shit about everyone, and talk about how Lesnar doesn't even think enough the competition to show up until he's ready to destroy them.
It'll make his loss at Mania legendary and creates some more value to the belt. What's wrong with a guy holding it for half a year?
I'd also say they could try to push the Intercontinental Belt as the main event for a bit, but unfortunately I don't see a situation where they have Ziggler closing the show.
Odds are that we get more Steph/Bella fallout ending Raw tonight.
Feed Lesnar the Big Show, Orton and maybe even Mark Henry.
Just keep having Heyman on talking shit about everyone, and talk about how Lesnar doesn't even think enough the competition to show up until he's ready to destroy them.
It'll make his loss at Mania legendary and creates some more value to the belt. What's wrong with a guy holding it for half a year?
I'd also say they could try to push the Intercontinental Belt as the main event for a bit, but unfortunately I don't see a situation where they have Ziggler closing the show.
Odds are that we get more Steph/Bella fallout ending Raw tonight.
Sir_Crocodile
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They already did this and squashed henry bad more then once.
Only way of remotely making him credible again is turning him heel and reopening the hall of pain, which'd take too long and lead to a heel v heel match anyway.
You're confusing Extreme Rules and Elimination Chamber.
The top billed
Times change. Lesnar coming back in 2012 was a big deal- The Rumble and Elimination Chamber were both down from the previous year, and while WrestleMania was up (Which happens when you go from Miz vs Cena in 2011 to Rock vs Cena in 2012), the fact that Extreme Rules did an increase from the prior year when stuff was going down shows he was a draw.
What, really? His gimmick for over a year now has been he's on the way out.
Mighty Chin
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Bork vs Sheamus I can see happening
The only person that can take down the beast is the animal Batista. He's the only one powerful enough to get the job done. Goat man would have no chance.
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I love D.Bry but from a wrestling physique and in ring presence, current day D.Bry isn't close. Dood needs a full blown gimmick change.
He also needs to not have a career-threatening injury that he wants to rush into surgery for so that he can rush back to competition. Yeah, that will end well.
Ronda Rousey was at SummerSlam with her friends who have dubbed themselves the Four Horsewomen; so she threw the Four Hoursemen sign to them.
SpideySenses
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If he was rushing back he'd either have taken the second surgery as soon as it was proposed or have ignored the suggestion outright. That he's still waiting on whether he needs it or not suggests he's looking at the bigger picture.
Wow, Brock's actually a cool guy sometimes.
BadAss2961
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A bit ironic that one of her friends kinda looks like Miesha Tate.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
One example, and it wasn't a huge jump, plus it was a return. I just want to see it sustained. I don't think they have the current roster to do it.
Lesnar/Big Show? Dud. Lesnar/Orton? Boring. Lesnar/Henry? Blah.
Who wants to see any of that?
Do they do Lesnar/Cena again for three months?
That was a nice, natural interview of Brock. lol @ Heyman "Your light's not on"
BronsonLee
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If I'm Miesha Tate, I pull a switcheroo with that friend and then fuck with Rousey for the entire day
What's the status on this?
ShabbadooJr
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Lots of guys are cool guys, when they're drunk.
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PHOENIXZERO
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Cena and Bryan have been wresting for about the same number of years, they both started in late 1999, pretty sure Cena actually had his first match before Bryan had his. Only difference is that Cena didn't start wrestling with a high frequency until after he debuted in WWE in 2002 but regardless of the style Cena has at least just as much mileage on him as Bryan.
Ah I see. I'm actually interested in checking out SummerSlam now. Lesnar destroying Cena on a PPV sounds too good to be true.
Not to mention a Fedora. Plus he's been in Sister Abigail's friend zone for how long now?
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