Xbox Game Pass has reached more than 35 million subscribers
saintjules
Member
Sounds like good numbers. It's been said by many people that GP isn't a sustainable model. What is now 8 years later and it's still there.
The showcase yesterday still continues to push some games (even AA ones) as day one availability on the platform. If the service was bad/not sustainable, why is it still seemingly moving strong all this time later?
The showcase yesterday still continues to push some games (even AA ones) as day one availability on the platform. If the service was bad/not sustainable, why is it still seemingly moving strong all this time later?
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I relish the days of old where transparency was paramount and we'd get some proper splits.
Xbox vs PC and tier levels...
That being said, it looks like we're looking at only 1 million additional users in over a year and a half
www.theverge.com
That's tremendously slow growth.
Xbox vs PC and tier levels...
That being said, it looks like we're looking at only 1 million additional users in over a year and a half
Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service grows to 34 million subscribers
Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass growth has slowed.
www.theverge.com
That's tremendously slow growth.
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Portugeezer
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Reached =/= concurrent subscribers.
Over the years I've had about 4 months of gamepass for a total of around $8. I'm included in these numbers.
Over the years I've had about 4 months of gamepass for a total of around $8. I'm included in these numbers.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
you're welcome, phil
Jaguar Victory
Member
Am I mathing right that this is about 4.2 billion annual revenue give and take just for GP?
viveks86
Member
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
reinking
Gold Member
I'm out. My sub lapsed a few days ago and I am not resubscribing until I either get a deal I cannot refuse (not jumping through hoops) or I will sub a month if there is something I really want to try out.
It is a great service but it is does not fit me. I actually believe I have played less games on Xbox due to Game Pass than more. Lack of ownership means that I put things off and it becomes a little less a priority to play. The next thing you know, it is an older game and there is a new shiny game I want to play. At least I sent it out with a banger, Claire Obscure.
It is a great service but it is does not fit me. I actually believe I have played less games on Xbox due to Game Pass than more. Lack of ownership means that I put things off and it becomes a little less a priority to play. The next thing you know, it is an older game and there is a new shiny game I want to play. At least I sent it out with a banger, Claire Obscure.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Yea, well, how many sub for a month, finish the likes of the new doom, exp33, etc, and then unsub? This is what i do.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Yeah, everything's going just swell. That's why they're charging 80 dollars for The Outer Worlds 2. That's why they're porting to every platform possible. That's why Microsoft themselves are not actually transparent with where Gamepass subs are at. That's why they're throwing an 8th Hail Mary with a PC handheld.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
LordOcidax
Member
Bravo, best gaming service, by far.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Using my friend @Mibu no ookami 's math logic.
More than 35 has the range from 35 to 100m.
GG Game Pass.
More than 35 has the range from 35 to 100m.
GG Game Pass.
Baemono
Member
People like to round up reality to something bigger. « Assitant to the regional manager » becomes « Deputy-CEO »Amazing what folks reveal on their linkedin pages. Never occurred to this guy that maybe if Microsoft isn't revealing these numbers then maybe he shouldn't either.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Amazing what folks reveal on their linkedin pages. Never occurred to this guy that maybe if Microsoft isn't revealing these numbers then maybe he shouldn't either.
This will be edited out shortly, other zealous employees looking to bolster their linked-in have put up GP numbers before only to be removed shortly after.
Kacho
Member
Brutal... lol
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
My issue is that I like playing the games at my own pace, without worrying about something leaving a subscription. Like with Expedition 33, I knew I wouldn't blast through that in a month, then I look at a Steam key site and I can "own" it forever for less than the cost of 2 months of gamepass.
However something like Hellblade 2 and Indiana jones I blast through with a month of gamepass. Only reason I played them at all. So GP does actually get me to play more of the Xbox games.
So depends on the game for me. If it's short and I don't wanna own it. GP it is.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Really does seem like Game Pass's total potential is like 40 million subscribers.
Which I don't really understand, particularly when people are so vocal about not being able to afford $70 and $80 games.
Which I don't really understand, particularly when people are so vocal about not being able to afford $70 and $80 games.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It says 35 million plus, dont think it is an accurate figure.Amazing what folks reveal on their linkedin pages. Never occurred to this guy that maybe if Microsoft isn't revealing these numbers then maybe he shouldn't either.
Topher
Identifies as young
Which is even worse
jm89
Member
Most gamers are buying a few games a year.
Some just buy COD and FIFA.
Unless your happy with everything gempass offers it is not good value.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Wow, the growth is massive and growing.
Zacfoldor
Member
Gamepass is a console service like PSN or NSO. Unless Xbox maintains a healthy console ecosystem the service will wither over the next few years.
This may be the high water mark but I suspect it goes slightly above this as the rest of the gen plays out and then starts to dwindle when the next Xbox hits the shelves.
I think that this service is in the mind of console gamers, the main selling point of Xbox and also baked into the cost of playing online.
I can't imagine PC gamers floating this once MS has went 3rd party publisher(but also selling a prebuilt as they always have, that was always allowed).
You ARE seeing a big activision bump but you are also seeing a retraction play out at the same time so it looks like they are slightly up, but just know, as the console turns so turns gamepass. You will never see in final steps to building a gaming PC "Subscribe to gamepass."
This may be the high water mark but I suspect it goes slightly above this as the rest of the gen plays out and then starts to dwindle when the next Xbox hits the shelves.
I think that this service is in the mind of console gamers, the main selling point of Xbox and also baked into the cost of playing online.
I can't imagine PC gamers floating this once MS has went 3rd party publisher(but also selling a prebuilt as they always have, that was always allowed).
You ARE seeing a big activision bump but you are also seeing a retraction play out at the same time so it looks like they are slightly up, but just know, as the console turns so turns gamepass. You will never see in final steps to building a gaming PC "Subscribe to gamepass."
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Knucklepux
Member
I get that people think Gamepass is a deal..and in certain ways it is.
But you end up paying for stuff you don't want. Just because it's a new first party game doesn't mean everyone likes it.
So in reality you're paying for a bunch of games that are older. Like everyone celebrates getting a 2 year old game added to the service
If it was a game you truly care about, then you would've already bought it.
So in pure Gamepass terms, you're paying $240/year for maybe one game you actually give a shit about. I don't care about this "I get to try a bunch of game I otherwise wouldn't have". That isn't really the sell you think it is. But a game that is day one that you truly give a shit about.
So it's not a surprise they aren't seeing growth, people are realizing they're paying even more/year than they already were
But you end up paying for stuff you don't want. Just because it's a new first party game doesn't mean everyone likes it.
So in reality you're paying for a bunch of games that are older. Like everyone celebrates getting a 2 year old game added to the service
If it was a game you truly care about, then you would've already bought it.
So in pure Gamepass terms, you're paying $240/year for maybe one game you actually give a shit about. I don't care about this "I get to try a bunch of game I otherwise wouldn't have". That isn't really the sell you think it is. But a game that is day one that you truly give a shit about.
So it's not a surprise they aren't seeing growth, people are realizing they're paying even more/year than they already were
Topher
Identifies as young
Game Pass is not just a console service.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
nm, forgot GPU is $20 a month now.
Yeah that's a tough sell unless you're a hardcore gamer
Yeah that's a tough sell unless you're a hardcore gamer
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Numbers are being bolstered by the cheap price of GP PC now... we'll see how sustainable that price is.
People can just wait for sales, that 80 dollar price point on select games isn't going to drive people to GP.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
This really stopped growing years ago huh...
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
I look at game pass as still Xbox live but with free games like PlayStation plus.
I bring up the 10 million subscribers stat from 2008 for Xbox live gold
news.xbox.com
And in 2010…
www.engadget.com
"While Microsoft's CES announcement that Xbox Live "is now an active community of over 20 million people"
So the aura of these stats can be misleading because of the tiers (gold, silver, arcade, core, ultimate, active, non active etc.)
I bring up the 10 million subscribers stat from 2008 for Xbox live gold
Xbox LIVE announces 10-Million members - Xbox Wire
Plus Disney and MGM is coming to the Video marketplace. From the press release: “The Xbox LIVE community continues to grow, reaching the milestone of ten million Gold and Silver subscribers, a full six months ahead of schedule. Xbox LIVE connects millions of members across 26 countries to enjoy...
news.xbox.com
And in 2010…
Xbox by the numbers: 20m Xbox Live users, 10m nongaming, 39m Xbox 360 consoles worldwide
Xbox by the numbers: 20m Xbox Live users, 10m nongaming, 39m Xbox 360 consoles worldwide
While Microsoft's CES announcement that Xbox Live "is now an active community of over 20 million people" is somewhat blunted by Sony's claim of 38 million PlayStation Network accounts (though if our dozens of collective PSN accounts are any indication, some of us have more than one), Redmond did...
www.engadget.com
"While Microsoft's CES announcement that Xbox Live "is now an active community of over 20 million people"
So the aura of these stats can be misleading because of the tiers (gold, silver, arcade, core, ultimate, active, non active etc.)
Topher
Identifies as young
I bet a lot of folks on PC do what I do with Ubisoft+ and subscribe for a month at a time when there is a game I want to play. So Game Pass is going to have peaks and valleys just like games sales do. Would love to know how many people actually pay the full amount every month every year.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
saintjules
Member
There's a reason they're still continuing the subscription model nearly a decade after starting it. So why haven't they stopped it if it's bad business?
Your other points aren't indicative to what my comment was about. but anyway, everyone is going to charge $80 at some point. So when Playstation eventually gets to that price point, are they going to be in 'trouble' as well with their business and do a hail mary as well?
Kerotan
Member
So in 17 months it only grew by a million subs despite getting cod? Did that additiona actually prevent it declining?
With this gen ending so badly for Xbox and no game bigger then cod to be added, maybe it'll decline from now on?
The only growth potential is a form of gamepass on playstation.
Negotiator101
Member
You know what I say? Don't believe anything you read on Gaf as far as Xbox is concerned
JoeDanny
Member
Xbox really needs to invest more resources in Xcloud. The Game Pass library is great, but streaming games to your phone or whatever platform you want should totally be the future. IF they can finally get it working great. GeForce NOW is a good example of what Xbox needs to be doing. Flexibility in choosing framerate, resolution, bitrate, etc. And it looks amazing with barely any hitches. And even if it does lag, the stuttering doesn't break the game into a blurry mess like Xcloud constantly does. Imagine if the barrier to entry to the entire Game Pass catalog is just a screen that you most likely already have? And maybe a controller? That seems to be what they want it to be... but Xcloud just sucks so much dong that it's never going to get there at its current pace. Streaming could be the future if they just give it some extra love.
Yeah, yeah, there's the whole issue of not owning your games, and that does suck. But digital games have been a thing for a while now anyway. Streaming is just an evolution of how your existing library/Game pass can be delivered to you, but I think the instant-access-to-any-game promise is an overwhelming pro outweighing the cons.
Yeah, yeah, there's the whole issue of not owning your games, and that does suck. But digital games have been a thing for a while now anyway. Streaming is just an evolution of how your existing library/Game pass can be delivered to you, but I think the instant-access-to-any-game promise is an overwhelming pro outweighing the cons.
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PeteBull
Member
Why think so small, it could be as well 2b, not just 100m, premium gamepass sub that makes u get free games on day 1 tho, thats whole other number, probably not more than 4 mil since gamepass day1 games cant even go beyond 4m active players and thats including their launch sales ;DUsing my friend @Mibu no ookami 's math logic.
More than 35 has the range from 35 to 100m.
GG Game Pass.