March Climber
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Gamepass core continues to be a bad joke that increases in price.
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"Xbox Game Pass Standard" is launching in September
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Standard is a newly classified tier. Console, the existing tier, still gets day 1 and even retains the same price. New customers just can't buy into that tier anymore.
Apologize for being wrong, ass.
Technically you're right, but idgaf I'm still going to run with it. So suck it, bitch.
Bernardougf
Member
Everyone can do math bro ... anyone that wants the awesomeness that is gamepass have it, if not is not one game that will change that, even more a multiplayer game that people buy to play indefinitely, sure one or two over the fence may get it or someone wanting to play just the campaign may sub for 1 month. But moving the needle substantially to make a difference? Not a chance. Zero.
King Dazzar
Member
Gamepass is a failed bet. They thought gaming would transition to a subscription based model and it just didn't happen.
People simply don't play hundreds of games and with gaas taking over many people are stucked playing the same game for months. A completely useless scenario for a subscription.
What they accomplished is to devalue their own first party games which now their fans don't even want to buy at full price.
Anyway Microsoft internally has already moved on, the goal of gamepass is now to try to be viable with the current userbase by raising prices, while the main strategy of the company is focused on becoming a dominant full multiplatform gaming publisher.
People simply don't play hundreds of games and with gaas taking over many people are stucked playing the same game for months. A completely useless scenario for a subscription.
What they accomplished is to devalue their own first party games which now their fans don't even want to buy at full price.
Anyway Microsoft internally has already moved on, the goal of gamepass is now to try to be viable with the current userbase by raising prices, while the main strategy of the company is focused on becoming a dominant full multiplatform gaming publisher.
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Orbital2060
Member
So if youre subbed up to ultimate already, you can stay on that price for as long as you dont cancel and resub later?
If thats how it works, its a great time to jump in before 12/8 if youre considering game pass.
If thats how it works, its a great time to jump in before 12/8 if youre considering game pass.
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feynoob
Banned
You can't claim something which you haven't seen.
Fess
Member
Yeah that was my thinking as well. And stacking 12 months Core subs and then convert to Ultimate still works. I’m in til 2026 for the cost of two full priced releases.
Topher
Gold Member
Guess you'll just continue to ignore the changes to day one games.
Here are the threads where no one is "batting an eye" talking about the PS+ price increase....
Sony on PS Plus Price Increase: We Want to Make PlayStation Plus Great
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/10/sony-on-ps-plus-price-increase-we-want-to-make-playstation-plus-great Well, in a new interview with Barron's, PlayStation exec Eric Lempel offers some degree of insight. To its credit, the publication asks Lempel directly about consumer criticism of the...
PlayStation Plus is increasing its pricing globally starting September 6th
Edit: Mods, please fix title if possible :messenger_dizzy: "PlayStation Plus is increasing its pricing globally starting September 6th." https://blog.playstation.com/2023/08/30/playstation-plus-monthly-games-for-september-saints-row-black-desert-traveler-edition-generation-zero/ We also...
Will you buy/renew your PS Plus membership now prices have increased.
Sony decided to increase their prices for PS Plus with an astronomical 33% for all tiers. Prices are changing within a week: $20 increase for essential. $59.99 -> $79.99 $35 increase for extra. $99.99 -> $134.99 $40 increase for premium. $119.99 -> $159.99 Considering I bought the premium for...
Rumor - Community - PS Plus Subscribers Reportedly Flocking to Cancel Their Subscriptions
PS Plus prices are rising and users of the service are not happy. With the increase, which will start on September 6th, each tier of PS Plus (Essential, Extra and Deluxe) will go up by over 30% and this has had a negative effect around the world. Most posts say they will unsubscribe because of...
GameIndustry "PS Plus price hike: We'll all pay for a subscription-based future"
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ps-plus-price-hike-well-all-pay-for-a-subscription-based-future-opinion In the past couple of weeks, though, it feels like we've seen a couple of unwelcome flashes of the arrogant beast that Sony once was. First there was the news that the PlayStation Portal – a...
It's been six months since Sony increased PS Plus prices
Last year Sony increased the price for their online services with an astronomical 33% across all tiers $20 increase for essential. $59.99 -> $79.99 $35 increase for extra. $99.99 -> $134.99 $40 increase for premium. $119.99 -> $159.99 Sony's motivation was that this was neccesary to improve...
If Sony doesn't report a decrease in subscribers for PS+, people are crazy!
This increase in price for PS Plus is insane and ridiculous. Arrogant Sony is back in full force and they really want to remove any good will they got from PS4 gen. But what is even more upsetting is that companies tend to do this crazy price hikes only to report that they increase sales by...
You'll ignore these too I guess.
Another example of Xbox talking out of both sides of their mouth
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/micr...unching-first-party-games-on-ps-plus.1640145/
I guess there actually wasn't any benefit seeing as they removed day one options.
feynoob
Banned
If people bother to read, we wouldnt see posts like these.
What are you talking about?
feynoob
Banned
All they did is increase the price of the day1 option. Added a cheap option with no day1.
So, they didnt remove day1 like you are trying to say.
Topher
Gold Member
That's not what he said
feynoob
Banned
Mate, the writing is there. Is there a different meaning to that word?
Topher
Gold Member
Saying they removed "day one options" is not the same as saying they removed day one entirely.
feynoob
Banned
But they havent removed the day1 option. They introduced a new option. There was no reason to bring that. Just a gatcha tribalism.
Removing options doesn’t mean they removed the price hiked day 1 Ultimate entirely. It means they removed day 1 games from the previously $10.99 teir and made it $14.99. they essentially made you buy things you might not want plus removed a benefit you had before.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
I was listening to the Xbox two podcast.... man, I can't even listen to more than 15 minutes.
New stages of the gift process need to be added
New stages of the gift process need to be added
feynoob
Banned
The new option isnt replacing anything. Its just there to counter the price increase.
Old got price increase, new option is simply for people that dont like the price increase.
avin
Member
The aspect of Gamepass I enjoy most is the curated access to great indie games I might not find otherwise. But they don't seem to have the one tier that makes sense to me, which is relatively cheap day one indie games, first-party after some time, folded in with multiplayer access? Not on console anyway, or I'm not seeing it. Did I miss something?
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Topher
Gold Member
feynoob
Banned
Indie games was a good gear for them. After Activision blizzard, it become normal gear. They aren't worth that much attention now, when they can simply get cod and other big games.
feynoob
Banned
How do people who don't like the price increase avoid the price increase? Xbox Game Pass for Console will be shuttered for new users. You seem to be confused about what has happened and your options. Xbox Gamepass standard is being replaced by a $14.99 tier which doesn't include day 1 games. You could have paid $10.99/m before and got day 1 games on xbox gamepass before. Ultimate is getting a price hike, so is PC gamepass. So is Gamepass
Cores annual plan that most got before.
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Topher
Gold Member
Xbox Game Pass Standard is the $14.99 option. Think you mean "standard" in a generic way, but dude is already confused enough.
Yeah, "standard" with the double quotes. The $14.99 one isn't called standard either I think, only with double quotes. I think the confusion is by design. Certainly seems to have got feynoob baffled as to what's happening.Xbox Game Pass Standard is the $14.99 option. Think you mean "standard" in a generic way, but dude is already confused enough.
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feynoob
Banned
Xbox Game Pass Standard is the $14.99 option. Think you mean "standard" in a generic way, but dude is already confused enough.
I am reading the standard as the old ultimate.
If the standard is just the Xbox version, that is highway robbery.
I could reply withI am reading the standard as the old ultimate.
If the standard is just the Xbox version, that is highway robbery.
but that would be a little mean. I'm just messing because I dont blame you really. Not long ago you had
$14.99
Cloud access
Day 1 games
PC and Console
Now $14.99 gets you
No cloud access
No Day 1 games
Just console?
So it's easy to mix up the two just based on the price ending up the same in a year. They've essentially become EA Play or Ubisoft+ with a bigger publishers games. "blocking MS from benefitting consumers" they said.
Fess
Member
You’re talking in circles.
A price increase or new creative tier subs is not the problem.
The problem is this:
* There is a $11 option for PC-only gamers to get the Gamepass library and day 1 games.
* There is NO $11 option for console-only gamers to get the Gamepass library and day 1 games.
Why is there only a $20 console+PC option for console-only gamers who want day 1 games?
Gaming media should ask MS this. I’m on PC but I still think this needs to be asked. The only reason people aren’t complaining here is because so many are still sitting with prepaid stacked cheap subs or are on PC.
A price increase or new creative tier subs is not the problem.
The problem is this:
* There is a $11 option for PC-only gamers to get the Gamepass library and day 1 games.
* There is NO $11 option for console-only gamers to get the Gamepass library and day 1 games.
Why is there only a $20 console+PC option for console-only gamers who want day 1 games?
Gaming media should ask MS this. I’m on PC but I still think this needs to be asked. The only reason people aren’t complaining here is because so many are still sitting with prepaid stacked cheap subs or are on PC.
Topher
Gold Member
People are going to talk in circles when shit gets as convoluted as this is. Microsoft can't seem to do anything simple.
But you are correct. PC is getting the better deal. As Tom Warren said, this is just more evidence that the future of Xbox is on PC, not consoles.
reinking
Gold Member
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Shows that MS doesn't really care about their console consumers, first they devalue their own console platform by not supporting it properly, now this with the GP tiers. MS tried desperately to make customers of Xbox trust MS with Phil Spencer pretending to be a gamers' dude. They lured console customers in with all kinds of MS Rewards like tons of points for buying digital games, excessive amounts of points for GP, cheap $1 deals for GP, free months of GP for turning on auto-renewal etc. then they drop most of that stuff out of the blue, have community managers discriminate against specific people, lie about their products, try to buy dev companies and generate artificial success.
They really have no one to blame but themselves for their lack of success in the console market, and their current reputation.
Topher
Gold Member
Because they have xbox players locked in on gamepass on consoles. They've stagnated growth there and are milking them instead for revenue rather than subscriber growth. PC users they're still trying to get people on to it but they still increased that PC price by $2 regardless. It was $9.99 before. $14.99 on PC with no day 1 would pretty much tank any growth they expect there. You have places like Amazon and EGS giving away free games with no sub too. It may be an indication that they're going to try and increase loss on the next xbox to compete still as a loss leader machine but try and make it back by charging much more for services and subs on it.
feynoob
Banned
Gambit2483
Member
Gamepass Console (which included Day 1) was replaced with Gamepass Standard (which doesn’t include Day 1).
It's really not that hard to understand.
feynoob
Banned
King Dazzar
Member
Now they have Core, Standard, Ultimate and PC Game Pass, I feel they need Deluxe and Gold too, to help make it easy for customers.
They added 'Core' they might aswell add 'Elite' now.Now they have Core, Standard, Ultimate and PC Game Pass, I feel they need Deluxe and Gold too, to help make it easy for customers.
Topher
Gold Member
Now they have Core, Standard, Ultimate and PC Game Pass, I feel they need Deluxe and Gold too, to help make it easy for customers.
Someone at Microsoft reading these posts...
dragonyeuw
Member
Was just thinking about this. Why is Gamepass now so overwhelmingly lopsided in favor of PC compared to console?! As you point out a 'console only' player doesn't have the option of Day one games now, unless one pays for a tier containing PC games that has no relevance to said player.
The Mad Draklor
Member
And then they go surprised Pikachu face when the Xbox brand struggles even further.
Topher
Gold Member
I think Microsoft is making every effort they can to sour things for Game Pass on console. They want as many people as they can on Game Pass Ultimate before they transition away from console completely.....
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The future of the Xbox looks a lot like a PC
Xbox is undergoing some platform shifts.
www.theverge.com
Speculation, obviously.
Fess
Member
Exactly. There needs to be a $11 console-only option. There is no valid excuse.
Topher
Gold Member
They should have left everything as it was and just raised the price. Everyone was expecting that. Not this bullshit.