Syphon Filter
Member
nah it sold more. I believe xbox sold 400k-500k and xbox 360 sold 1.6 million.
Xbox One Launching 9/4 in Japan
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nah it sold more. I believe xbox sold 400k-500k and xbox 360 sold 1.6 million.
Problem is, is those games that you listed are exclusive to Xbox consoles. That's what we don't want.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
the fella looks almost hesitant, like "I'm not sure I really want this" kind of expression
Why don't we want them? Those games wouldn't have existed unless MS funded their development.
so you rather have the games not come out at all?
I wouldn't take those publisher/developer lists as a notice that they're actively developing games for Xbox One.
No:
Xbox - 472,992
Xbox 360 - 1,612,391
No:
Xbox - 472,992
Xbox 360 - 1,612,391
I'd like them.
AcademicSaucer
Member
ATLUS hmmm
It's not that. It's that many people like myself buy Nintendo's & Sony's consoles & handhelds for Japanese 3rd party games.
Games like Tales of Vesperia, for example, we didn't get for PS3 in the U.S., because Microsoft paid off Namco-Bandai to keep it exclusive to the 360 for the west. That's what I meant by what I said.
They don't want to have to shell out $500 w/tax for another console just to play games that they want to play.
I don't care, I've got a PS4 and Xbox One, I the winner either way.
ambientmystic
Member
Dat first week MC sales thread for the Xbone is gonna be a hoot.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
Who's "we"?
No but really, this will be one of the greatest flops in the country of all time.
The 360 managed awful numbers, but it was cheaper, came out earlier, had better quality multiplats and had a bunch of Japanese-focused exclusives.
The Xbox one is more expensive, coming out later, with worse quality multiplats and seems to have no japanese focused exclusives thus far. Not to mention, the Xbox 360 probably had a more appealing design for Japan vs. the Xb1 and 360 launched in a much healthier console market. This will truly be something to see.
I'd be kind of surprised with 500k LTD honestly.
The 360 managed awful numbers, but it was cheaper, came out earlier, had better quality multiplats and had a bunch of Japanese-focused exclusives.
The Xbox one is more expensive, coming out later, with worse quality multiplats and seems to have no japanese focused exclusives thus far. Not to mention, the Xbox 360 probably had a more appealing design for Japan vs. the Xb1 and 360 launched in a much healthier console market. This will truly be something to see.
I'd be kind of surprised with 500k LTD honestly.
boredandlazy
Member
Probably just Wonderflick.
Sakura
Member
That's pretty good then. If this trend continues the Xbox One could be sitting at around 5 million there.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
Fromsoftware?
Must be an exclusive soul's game
Devil's Souls
or Otogi
Must be an exclusive soul's game
Devil's Souls
or Otogi
boredandlazy
Member
Probably most level headed people. 3rd party exclusives on either side are annoying as far as I'm concerned.
OldKingDoran
Banned
hmm..Cave and Moss..looks like Xbox is gonna be the place to get your shmups again.
HORRORSHØW
Member
ctrl+f Platinum. yo, wtf?
Xbox 360 sold just over 3X the amount of OG Xbox, so that means... Xbox One will sell over 4.5 million!
lol
Microsoft gave up on 360 in Japan years ago, and likely burned bridges with most of the userbase they cultivated. The platform is now pushing ~200-300 units a week.
I notice you don't have a gamertag in your profile.
Doesn't seem very level to me...
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
whose 'we'?
The majority of consumers would rather have content, then not have content.
And publishers would rather make money, than not make money.
boredandlazy
Member
Lost Odyssey was first party and DR3 was funded by Microsoft. I don't consider those third party exclusives.
Freeman
Banned
MS probably doesn't believe its going to sell well, but they have to try just in case.
The Japanese studios that get involved in those deals are asking for trouble.
Total exclusivity is just not beneficial in the long run for third party studios, they miss the opportunity of popularizing their own franchises at a time people are more receptive to new IPs. Restricting your game to Xbox in Japan is a poor strategy.
The Japanese studios that get involved in those deals are asking for trouble.
Total exclusivity is just not beneficial in the long run for third party studios, they miss the opportunity of popularizing their own franchises at a time people are more receptive to new IPs. Restricting your game to Xbox in Japan is a poor strategy.
boredandlazy
Member
Neither do I. I more consider them second party because they're being funded by the platform-owner.
statham
Member
3rd party exclusives can be good for games we wouldn't have gotten without it. See Ryse, Fatal Frame,DR3, Bayonetta and maybe TF.
meppi said:
I figure they have more business sense than to go by that reason alone. I'd assume that if these devs stuck to Xbox One this gen, it would be for similar initial reasons to 360: development was cheaper or maybe MS somehow otherwise incentivized it.
I just want the games to exist. I'm happy to see them on consoles over handhelds/mobile, so which of the consoles doesn't really matter to me.
I don't understand why a game not existing is preferable to a game existing as an exclusive.
Please read my other post that I made earlier to see what I meant & why I don't want most Japanese games being exclusive to Xbox One:
Link.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
This release date tells me that Japan could really care less about FPS. I could be wrong, but I honestly think their local developers know more about continuing franchises that their culture is use to rather than trying to experience something like Titanfall or Call of Duty for the very first time. Sounds totally like our market in its current state, except ours is shooters.
Not if those games weren't going to happen otherwise. Most level headed people aren't angry at Nintendo for Bayonetta 2, and they shouldn't be angry at MS for Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon. Feel free to be annoyed by what happened with Tales of Vesperia, but don't act like every exclusive MS ever sees is equivalent.
Everybody has a choice, it's just lots of people choose to take sides in the first place.
Syphon Filter
Member
Didn't LO do surprisingly well in the U.S?
Nope, they're just asking for failure.
boredandlazy
Member
Already commented on that. To clarify I find it annoying when any company pays to specifically keep a game off of another platform.
If the game would not actually exist without the funding provided by Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo, then that's fair enough.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Bust out those Swiffers.
Time to dust off all that extra shock and ship these consoles over to Tier 2 territories.
LowerLevel
Member
Exactly what I was thinking. Does anyone know how the "Every box becomes a devkit" works? If it's own a box and pay a fee to create games for it, what's to stop a smaller team to just create/port smaller/cheaper digital games and release through id@xbox, or whatever it is called, similar to I suppose what Greenlight is doing? (is that what Greenlight is doing?) Of course I'm kinda sleep deprived at the moment so I may be imagining things.
VibratingDonkey
Member
Official Tier 2 launch is May-August then.
Microsoft might pull a Sega Saturn shiro.
Microsoft might pull a Sega Saturn shiro.
boredandlazy
Member
Exactly what I meant earlier.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Not to sound like I'm bashing or anything. But Japan gets... I mean MAKES better action games. I don't see Ryse doing anything different. Again I'm just making a statement I strongly agree upon.
Maybe you shouldn't have replied to a post citing "those games listed" when none of them fit the problem you're complaining about?
Same! I think people underestimate Microsoft's ability to see what fans and hardcore gamers want and give it to them. I always thought the original Xbox was really a Dreamcast 2.