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Xbox One Launching 9/4 in Japan

Same! I think people underestimate Microsoft's ability to see what fans and hardcore gamers want and give it to them. I always thought the original Xbox was really a Dreamcast 2.

With all those early SEGA releases, it basically once. That's what pushed me over the edge to purchase one.
 
yes i want more support for Japanese games in the west
but i dont want it on a console thats bigger than half the size of my TV(and comes with a worthless camera)
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Please read my other post that I made earlier to see what I meant & why I don't want most Japanese games being exclusive to Xbox One:

Link.

I hear you. I get mad when I can't buy stuff either, or can't afford more.
But I say "I" in this case, not "we" :)

The fact of the matter is, in some cases, yes, exclusivity sucks.
But in many cases, given the business realities, these things simply won't happen without funding. It's similar to some major hollywood movies, or some sequels that get greenlit after questionable returns on the first film. If a different disturber doesn't come in agree to finance international releases, the film doesn't get made. One studio will fund domestic, one funds international, risk is mitigated, and profits are split behind closed doors. If you can't find a publishing deal that might net you profit, you can the project.

As consumers, it's very hard to see that and I understand frustration.
But sometimes, as people who love gaming and want more and more insatiably, these things are needed (for better or worse).
 

Synth

Member
GAF would have been heartbroken if ryse never happened.

I'm glad it exists. I wouldn't have been "heartbroken" if it didn't... but then that could be said about any game (other than Shenmue 3), simply because it wouldn't have existed for me to miss.
 

Fraxin

Member
I heard somewhere that Phil has a new strategy how to target the Japanese market, can't remember where I read it.
 

Freeman

Banned
3rd party exclusives can be good for games we wouldn't have gotten without it. See Ryse, Fatal Frame,DR3, Bayonetta and maybe TF.

That excuse is just been thrown around now. Respawn was already making the game for PC before. Ryse started as a Kinect game that's why it had to be funded by MS. Why Capcom gets involved in those deals is beyond me (had plenty of opportunity to learn their lesson with Lost Planet releasing first for Xbox 360 and DR1 exclusivity). Lets see how Bayonetta works out, is they had trouble funding the game it is probably a big red flag for its potential to succeed.

Studios who know how to leverage their games with platform holders sell temporary exclusive content and co-marketing to make extra money from console wars, but their game still gets released everywhere and they retain the rights over an IP and it prospers.

Exclusives make sense for first-party and second party studios who plan on doing this for a long time.

It is sad how those exclusive deals end up influencing the perception of how viable some titles were and then influence future decisions.
 
So they are gonna ship all the Xbox One's that are gathering dust in main land Europe, to Japan where they gather a second layer of dust.
 

statham

Member
That excuse is just been thrown around now. Respawn was already making the game for PC before. Ryse started as a Kinect game that's why it had to be funded by MS. Why Capcom gets involved in those deals is beyond me (had plenty of opportunity to learn their lesson with Lost Planet releasing first for Xbox 360 and DR1 exclusivity). Lets see how Bayonetta works out, is they had trouble funding the game it is probably a big red flag for its potential to succeed.

Studios who know how to leverage their games with platform holders sell temporary exclusive content and co-marketing to make extra money from console wars, but their game still gets released everywhere and they retain the rights over an IP and it prospers.

Exclusives make sense for first-party and second party studios who plan on doing this for a long time.
how about sunset overdrive are they second party? cuz I'm really looking forward to that one.
 

Synth

Member
That excuse is just been thrown around now. Respawn was already making the game for PC before. Ryse started as a Kinect game that's why it had to be funded by MS. Why Capcom gets involved in those deals is beyond me (had plenty of opportunity to learn their lesson with Lost Planet releasing first for Xbox 360 and DR1 exclusivity).

Studios who know how to leverage their games with platform holders sell temporary exclusive content and co-marketing to make extra money from console wars, but their game still gets released everywhere and they retain the rights over an IP and it prospers.

Exclusives make sense for first-party and second party studios who plan on doing this for a long time.

Bayonetta 2 was likely being made for 360/PS3 before also. Things can get canned along the way. Also Lost Planet made perfect sense, seeing the demo for it hit around 6 months before the PS3 released. Not everyone is ready to debut a new franchise on multiple platforms at once... especially when one has built up a few million in userbase so far, and the other is starting from scratch.

It's easy to assume that these things make no business sense outside of "moneyhats", but that's not always the case.

yet itll be bought on PS4 more so cause plot reasons
if you own an Xbox One and buy KH3 without playing the others your head will explode(probably)

Kingdom Hearts has been sent to so many non-related platforms over the last decade that I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of its fanbase owns every console ever made by now.
 

Coda

Member
Dammit Cave do not make me consider getting MS' DRM machine.

I think it's gonna be a long while before we know what Cave is going to do with their business in general. We'd be lucky to see a new shmup on any home console in the next three years. I honestly don't even think that's gonna happen unless Microsoft gets smart and lets them release their games as arcade titles (as they all should've been from the start) to maximize exposure and sales.
 
yet itll be bought on PS4 more so cause plot reasons
if you own an Xbox One and buy KH3 without playing the others your head will explode(probably)

A mainline console KH hasn't come out since the PS2 days. I didn't play the spin offs (in in the middle of them now) but if I never did I could buy it on Xbox One and be fine. Plenty of people went from PS2 -> Xbox 360.
 
A mainline console KH hasn't come out since the PS2 days. I didn't play the spin offs (in in the middle of them now) but if I never did I could buy it on Xbox One and be fine. Plenty of people went from PS2 -> Xbox 360.

BBS is the main one
seeing as how youll just wonder who the hell this old man is when he shows up
and DDS is required as it sets up KH3
edit:rrc play BBS the main villain for the entire series is introduced, hell the game sets up the whole damn series
 

Fraxin

Member
yet itll be bought on PS4 more so cause plot reasons
if you own an Xbox One and buy KH3 without playing the others your head will explode(probably)

Even if you played the others, your head might still explode. I'm actually wondering how the game will do on the Xbox One.
 

Tain

Member
I think it's gonna be a long while before we know what Cave is going to do with their business in general. We'd be lucky to see a new shmup on any home console in the next three years. I honestly don't even think that's gonna happen unless Microsoft gets smart and lets them release their games as arcade titles (as they all should've been from the start) to maximize exposure and sales.

I think Cave wanted retail from the start. 5pb tried to go to XBLA and couldn't.
 

Synth

Member
maybe in planning stages, but they said over and over again it wasn't happening without Nintendo.

Ah ok, I hadn't really followed it much. I only remember there being rumors of it possibly being amongst one of a few games Sega canned early 2012.

Still, the point stands that something being in development doesn't guarantee that it'll ever see release.
 
Even if you played the others, your head might still explode. I'm actually wondering how the game will do on the Xbox One.

everyone knows that Xbox is FPS central so probably not well
bar from a few RPGs(one of which will never happen again if Babas recent mindset is anything to show for) last gen Sony and Nintendo were where you would go for RPGs
 

Coda

Member
I think Cave wanted retail from the start. 5pb tried to go to XBLA and couldn't.

Yeah it probably made sense then when Japan wasn't really too savvy on the whole online video game ecosystem like the West adopted. Either way, I think this go around unless you are a AAA or AA developer digital will be the way to go instead of retail.

Another thing that we soon seem to forget is that both these two major players in the next-gen market are both region free. That's pretty huge, obviously right now it doesn't really matter but in the future to come I think or at least hope that shift towards unity between markets will be good for consumers and game aficionados. Only time will tell if this will make an impact or not.
 
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