JeffG
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It will play a HDR source, but it still uses 8-bit color depth (not the 10 that is required for HDR10)
So you will not see get the benefits of a true HDR TV
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300
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Xbox One S Thread: The S is for Sexy
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It will play a HDR source, but it still uses 8-bit color depth (not the 10 that is required for HDR10)
So you will not see get the benefits of a true HDR TV
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Ok. Thats what my assumption was. Will I at least get a little green checkmark on the S's tv calibration page?
Samurai G0SU
Member
Vizio's P-Series that came out this year are amazing. Especially for the price.
Bought my 55inch during a sale and paid $1300. including an extended warranty. This TV supports Dolby Vision and now HDR10. HDR10 is important because it is the open format that the xbox one s uses and what the 4k/UHD blu-rays use too.
Also, HDMI 5 can go as low as 17ms in gaming mode. However, it doesn't support HDR as it is just HDMI v1.4 instead of HDMI v2.0a like the ports 1-4 support.
I think the 50 inch version is $800? im not 100% sure.
JeffG
Member
That I don't know.
JeffG
Member
I am looking at a Sony 55 X850D. I think that is the TV for me. I may wait to see if it goes on sale. (Currently is sitting at $1600 canadian)
Inceptional
Member
Maybe I'm just wanting to see things but I swear watching Bojack Horseman on Netflix on my S just now looked more colorful and crisp than it ever has before and I just have a regular old 1080p Samsung.
The colors of the dashboard feel like they pop more, especially the red for some reason. Even the text just looks really crisp and clean.
The OS definitely feels a bit faster as well, at least in regards to getting around quicker, not sure about booting up apps and games which still feels a little laggy to me.
It's also super-silent, even quieter than my OG XBO. I'm playing the Hardcore Henry BR right now and I put my ear right up to the fan and it just sounds like if you had a fan running on the lowest setting 20 feet away from you. Super-fuckin'-silent!
The colors of the dashboard feel like they pop more, especially the red for some reason. Even the text just looks really crisp and clean.
The OS definitely feels a bit faster as well, at least in regards to getting around quicker, not sure about booting up apps and games which still feels a little laggy to me.
It's also super-silent, even quieter than my OG XBO. I'm playing the Hardcore Henry BR right now and I put my ear right up to the fan and it just sounds like if you had a fan running on the lowest setting 20 feet away from you. Super-fuckin'-silent!
Hawk269
Member
My wife says I have a "New TV" disorder or something medically wrong with me where I want to upgrade to a new TV almost every year. Just a small example of what I bought....
2013 near release of the first 4k sets, the Sony 4k 65" XBR900a (still have this one)
2013 near the end of the year Panasonic 4k Set (this was returned due to banding issues)
2014 mid-year the Panasonic 800u 4k Set (mainly because it had display port and I wanted to do 4k gaming on my PC)
2015 mid-year the Panasonic CX850u 4k set, much improved and one of the first sets with HDMI 2.0a that allowed 4k/60fps via HDMI. (still have this one and there is a HDR firmware update for it).
2016 in mid-May Sony released the high-end 75" 940d which included HDMI 2.0a on all ports and HDR.
Sony just announced the new ZD line, (http://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/xbr-z9d-series) which no-one really new about and shocked a lot of people being that the 940d was suppose to be the flagship model for this year. The initial specs seem extremely impressive, it is suppose to hit 4,000 nits, which is extremely bright, which would make HDR on that set even more impactful and it has some new tech that improves black level even more and uses a new X1 extreme processor. It is suppose to come out very soon, but very pricey. I believe the 100" model is at $59,999.00 according to Best Buy that had posted and then removed it. They will also have a 65" and 75". I mildly mentioned it to my wife, which she put a immediate stop to any thought of getting it. I guess I need to start buying some flowers every other weekend!!!
JeffG
Member
lol
I just got my 15 yr reward from work. $500 visa card. I am using that to subsidise my TV purchase. (I was going to use it on VR, but decided to go TV and get a Scorpio next yr.)
Samurai G0SU
Member
nice. Did you check out this review?
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850d
they also have some calibration settings, you might want to bookmark for later. Unless you have your own tools/software and do it yourself.
Do we know that HDR doesn't work in game mode on this TVs already?
Unfortunately we don't even know the lag on these TVs with a 4k input source - could be very different results to 1080p.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I know that at least with LG TVs that the set switches to an HDR mode with only 3 selections that don't include a game mode. Hopefully they are updated in a firmware upgrade.
My wife says I have a "New TV" disorder or something medically wrong with me where I want to upgrade to a new TV almost every year. Just a small example of what I bought....
2013 near release of the first 4k sets, the Sony 4k 65" XBR900a (still have this one)
2013 near the end of the year Panasonic 4k Set (this was returned due to banding issues)
2014 mid-year the Panasonic 800u 4k Set (mainly because it had display port and I wanted to do 4k gaming on my PC)
2015 mid-year the Panasonic CX850u 4k set, much improved and one of the first sets with HDMI 2.0a that allowed 4k/60fps via HDMI. (still have this one and there is a HDR firmware update for it).
2016 in mid-May Sony released the high-end 75" 940d which included HDMI 2.0a on all ports and HDR.
Sony just announced the new ZD line, (http://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/xbr-z9d-series) which no-one really new about and shocked a lot of people being that the 940d was suppose to be the flagship model for this year. The initial specs seem extremely impressive, it is suppose to hit 4,000 nits, which is extremely bright, which would make HDR on that set even more impactful and it has some new tech that improves black level even more and uses a new X1 extreme processor. It is suppose to come out very soon, but very pricey. I believe the 100" model is at $59,999.00 according to Best Buy that had posted and then removed it. They will also have a 65" and 75". I mildly mentioned it to my wife, which she put a immediate stop to any thought of getting it. I guess I need to start buying some flowers every other weekend!!!
I have the 65ax800u. I think it looks really good and I had a 50" plasma before it. It doesn't have HDR, but it has awesome blacks, contrast, and color reproduction. The displayport is great for my living room gaming rig, I don't notice any input lag whatsoever. It does have expanded color gamut, and I don't really know if I should be using it or not with the xbox one s. Of course I use it for my PC, and it appears to recognized the xbox one s is putting out a 4:4:4 4k signal as 4k pure direct setting is selectable when playing Revenant UHD. It looks really fucking good. But I don't know if it makes sense to have the native 0-255 color gamut enabled if UHD blu-rays don't support it? I read that uhd blu-ray only supports 4:2:0, but the xbox seems to be sending a 4:4:4 signal when playing a uhd blu-ray. Using the xbox calibration tool there is no black crush, and everything looks good, so I guess I will leave it as is with expanded colors.
JeffG
Member
Thanks and yes I saw that review. It seems to be the best of the low cost HDR TV's. The Vizio P and M series do not seem to be in any stores here..
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Came so incredibly close to caving last night at my brother's store I was sweating.
Gotta hold out for that Gears console.
Gotta hold out for that Gears console.
Sorry! UNK55KS8000
Yes but the problem is that those tests are not done at UHD nor HDR.
JeffG
Member
Did you update the firmware?
Sounds like HDR wasn't there until an update
https://community.sony.com/t5/4K-Ultra-HD-TV/x810c-HDR-update/td-p/557132
Edit: Maybe not your TV There was this text
Which model? Been looking at the Samsung 4k sets.. had my eye on the UN55KS8000 and was wondering if it was as good as I think it is.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Just wanted to say that my older brother has this set and it is gorgeous. Seriously an incredible looking display.
BobbyColtrane
Member
Can anyone comment on the compatibility of my television with the 4k signal from the Xbox One S?
I'm reading and reading but just getting a headache lol.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T63YVAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm reading and reading but just getting a headache lol.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T63YVAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Impulsor
Member
It is. I have the KS9000 which is the curved version. Go. Do it.
If your asking is it HDR, no.
Same model! I'll find out this weekend how good it is, but I heard good things about it on TV OT here on GAF and rtings.
JeffG
Member
Its a 2015 M series. The 2016 series got a patch for HDR
It doesn't have HDR support. It's a great TV but you should be looking at
https://www.vizio.com/tvs/mseries/m65d0.html
or
https://www.vizio.com/tvs/mseries/m70d3.html
I personally prefer the 2016 P series.
Gnome Scat
Member
Because of a deal at GameStop and my Kinect, the 500GB S is only gonna cost me $125. Sold!
MaximusPayne
Member
They give you $25 for a kinect...I'm surprised
BobbyColtrane
Member
Thank you everyone for the responses. Since my TV is UHD and not HDR, it still supports 4k resolution from HD blurays, streaming, etc?
God, I used to be able to understand these things, I swear....
God, I used to be able to understand these things, I swear....
Gnome Scat
Member
I thought I'd have to pay them to get it off my hands.
Yes, of course. Everything but HDR. It's still going to look fucking amazing.
I'm saving up to buy this year's B6V model, does this mean we can't experience HDR and play with reasonable response lag at the same time...? If so then that makes a HDR set sound pointless for me
Backfoggen
Banned
I'm saving up to buy this year's B6V model, does this mean we can't experience HDR and play with reasonable response lag at the same time...? If so then that makes a HDR set sound pointless for me
Idk how long you have to save up still but I'd definitely wait for HDR gaming tests if it's important to you. We should see some next month.
JeffG
Member
Plug n play
Good to know. Thanks.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I'm saving up to buy this year's B6V model, does this mean we can't experience HDR and play with reasonable response lag at the same time...? If so then that makes a HDR set sound pointless for me
Vizio lets you use the GLL option (Game Low Latency) with every picture mode, so I think their TVs will have the lowest input lag for HDR gaming at this point. Hopefully LG updates their TV line to support game modes for HDR or maybe they already have? I'd suggest going to avsforum.com and reading up on any particular model you are interested in. One thing I find refreshing about Vizio is that the CTO of Marketing is pretty active on the forums and getting feedback from gamers planning to use an Xbox One on their Vizios. Post launch support has been pretty good for the P Series as well.
D4rth Man7iz
Member
Great OP!
Hope everyone who is getting one likes it. My launch console will do just fine while I wait for Scorpio to come out.
Hope everyone who is getting one likes it. My launch console will do just fine while I wait for Scorpio to come out.
SlaughterX
Banned
Yep I think this is pretty much the same thing I misread
Thats not helping! You glad you didn't wait bud? Only reason I'm still waiting is that I managed to reserve the 500GB for about £224 ish I think which is a great price.
That sounds pretty good but the main reason I'm going for the LG B6V is because of OLED. Just can't beat those panels. I'll look into the Vizios though.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I get it. OLED is way better for HDR. LEDs need local dimming to show a good HDR image, but even with a lot of dimming panels it still won't be anywhere close to an OLED. The per pixel lighting is just going to look so much better especially in starry lit nights where a local dimming panel might cause you to lose some detail.