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you are all a bunch of misogynists
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Topher
Identifies as young
People can have their own takes on "misogyny" if it doesn't directly address what she is saying. I and others believe taking someone as beautiful as she is and twisting them into this Kay Vess character is another example of "misogyny" this is far too prevalent in the video game industry. It isn't an indictment of "comprehension levels" to make an independent point on its own.
Madserb2023
Member
I am sure just through sheer odds there is mysogeny in the gaming industry. It's about 90% men working in it. Doesn't make it right but it's getting tedious hearing about it all the time. I work in the cosmetics industry. I'm a guy and I have been called everything, even told that my opinion is not valid because I am a guy, so what would I know about products mainly consumed by women. Most women I work with are decent and not remotely sexist, but in an industry that's about 90% female, again through just odds alone you will have misandrists. This will probably always be the case, therefore you will have articles like this till the end of time.
TheDuskwalker
Member
Now her in game model makes sense, Ubisoft just wanted her outside to match her inside.
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Hardly an independent point, since it’s being used in this thread to attack her. Last I checked, she isn’t a modeler at Ubisoft.
Not to mention multiple responses assuming her comment was about the backlash to the Kay Vess scan.
fart town usa
Member
I've never been into Ubisoft. I assume their glory days were the PS2 Era. For me their best game is ZombiU. Rayman is great too of course but I only dabbled in the IP.
As an outsider, their best IP IMO is FarCry. I watched my brother play part 3 alot on the PS3 and it seemed like a great game. The cult one seemed awesome too when I watched a fellow gaf'r play it via screen share. I do want to play that one at some point.
As for Assassin's Creed. That series has always been hot garbage to me. I played 1 and 3 and good grief, just awful. I know the Italian protagonist ones seem to be considered the best but 1 and 3 were so bad I have no desire to ever touch the IP.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have no clue why they are such a big deal, they've always come off as incredibly mid with a few great games from time to time. They never came of as consistent enough for me to buy their games blind of get excited to their scheduled releases.
As an outsider, their best IP IMO is FarCry. I watched my brother play part 3 alot on the PS3 and it seemed like a great game. The cult one seemed awesome too when I watched a fellow gaf'r play it via screen share. I do want to play that one at some point.
As for Assassin's Creed. That series has always been hot garbage to me. I played 1 and 3 and good grief, just awful. I know the Italian protagonist ones seem to be considered the best but 1 and 3 were so bad I have no desire to ever touch the IP.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have no clue why they are such a big deal, they've always come off as incredibly mid with a few great games from time to time. They never came of as consistent enough for me to buy their games blind of get excited to their scheduled releases.
Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....then you should respond to who you are talking about to make your point. This reply to no one but wag your finger at everyone makes no sense.
I know my initial post in this thread was an independent point not related directly to what she said.
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Mr Moose
Member
I'm not seeing it on Amazon/Shopto or GAME. I thought it was digital only for now.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I didn't even read the OP. I just see the word misogyny and it flips my incel switch
ConkerTheSquirrel.
Member
If you weren't before, women like this surely will.
Just an all-around lack of accountability, shifting the blame on anyone else but themselves.
Just an all-around lack of accountability, shifting the blame on anyone else but themselves.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Every purchase adds a month to my next ban
Topher
Identifies as young
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I assume your crusty old ass has about 5 more years left, so buy 60 shirts and that's a ban for life
Topher
Identifies as young
Angry_Megalodon
Member
I bothered to read her quotes, at the risk of my mental health. What she says is full retard. Period.
No where in that does she say “ALL gamers or the industry” are misogynist. It’s clear as day that’s not what she’s saying, yet you still pull this nonsense.
The greatest irony though is that this bad faith garbage, along with some of the TRULY misogynistic bile responses here, happen to be the exact pocket of gamers/community she IS talking about. All you’ve done is prove her correct.
The greatest irony though is that this bad faith garbage, along with some of the TRULY misogynistic bile responses here, happen to be the exact pocket of gamers/community she IS talking about. All you’ve done is prove her correct.
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digoutyoursoul
Member
Wont say a word about misandry tho
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Ten years of this tired ass playbook.
CherryFalls
Banned
I think you got lost, Reddit is that way
laynelane
Member
I don't think men and women are different in this regard. As an example, I played a game with a friend where you could create your own character. She created a character that looked like her - but with the attractiveness dialed up to 11 out of 10. Other women I played with were similar or had no preference. Yet there's this small contingent of men and women that insist on using women characters as their personal battle ground. It's incredibly off-putting and backwards. It also leads to this backlash against female characters and women themselves which is unfair and undeserved.
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ShadowNate
Member
pfft couldn't have meant gaf
There's an appreciation thread for her since the game's release.
There's an appreciation thread for her since the game's release.
Wolzard
Member
And it seems to me to be an exclusively feminine concern, since men feel represented even with a slime.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Some people really base their value on how oppressed they feel.
Fahdis
Member
The first page or so of this thread kinda proves her point. But I think she's a little misguided.
Folk aren't angry or upset that we're playing as a woman in that Star Wars game. Folk are angry that they took your face, gave you a mop of a haircut and mo-capped you into a 3/10 version in the video game for no good reason other than...diversity?
Usually, human-based video game character models are designed into better looking versions of the actor/actress.. but they did the reverse with her, and for what reason?
She looks like a 4 max and then they turned her into a 3. With these comments she's a 2.
FunkMiller
Member
I just find it incredible, brave and amazing that she managed to have time to put out this statement between making her husband’s dinner and cleaning the washing machine filter.
laynelane
Member
And it seems to me to be an exclusively feminine concern, since men feel represented even with a slime.
Not all girls are the same is the point I'm making. In fact, many are similar to men in this regard. They also like well-written characters and games/movies/shows. They also don't need to see themselves in the end product to enjoy it. There's been an influx of bullshit saying otherwise, but that's not coming from the millions upon millions of women in the world. It's from a small group that have their own ideology which they insist on inserting into media.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Correct. She doesn't say all gamers are misogynist. She says, and I quote:
"Yes, to be a leading woman not just in a Star Wars story but in the video game industry, which also tends to have a lot of limitations and misogyny and kind of in-and-out politics of who can be a part of it and who you want to play as.”
I'm not sure I agree with this statement. To start with, it's too vague. In what regard is the industry misogynist? A vast number of games now have women front and centre and it's been this way for a while. We can say that some gamers are misogynist, but that's not the industry as a whole.
Barakov
Member
I'm never playing this game. Fuck this game, Fuck Ubisoft, Fuck the model. Also Fuck anyone who keeps shoving this shit down gamer's throats.not acording to me but according to Star Wars Outlaws Actress Humberly González
“Yes, to be a leading woman not just in a Star Wars story but in the video game industry, which also tends to have a lot of limitations and misogyny and kind of in-and-out politics of who can be a part of it and who you want to play as.”
“I am incredibly proud of the team having chosen someone like me, but also only me, that there isn’t a male counterpart to the story of Star Wars Outlaws that we are focusing on a female point of view of a scoundrel story because we’ve only really ever seen males in a scoundrel position,”
'Star Wars Outlaws' Actress Humberly González Says Video Game Industry Has A Lot Of Misogyny And Praises Game For Only Having A Female Point Of View
Humberly González, the actress who portrays Kay Vess in Star Wars Outlaws, says the video game industry has a lot of misogyny while also praising Ubisoft and Massive Entertainment for ensuring the only character in the game is female.thatparkplace.com
and you guys still buy their games
Reizo Ryuu
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BlackTron
Member
Talk? No one even paid attention to how she looks.
laynelane
Member
I remember back around 2013, it came out that the developers of The Last of Us and Bioshock Infinite had to fight to get their lead female characters on the game box. Ellie ended up on the cover and Elizabeth ended up on the back cover. Execs at the time didn't think gamers would buy a game with a girl/woman on the box cover. They were wrong, of course, but even that attitude doesn't come across as misogynistic to me. It was a misread of the customer base, for sure, but it wasn't rooted in hatred of women. Needless to say, the current industry is far removed from that idea as well. I don't agree with her statement, to be frank. The word "misogyny" just seems like a buzzword at this point with the way it's being used.
nkarafo
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yeah I call it gaslighteconomics.
Sentenza
Member
I swear. Insults from these people lost all meaning at this point.
They can call you a sexist, racist, transphobic, ableist or what else and almost no one is batting an eyelid anymore.
It's not incidental that the only places where they "control the discourse" and they don't come off as ridiculous in a discussion are the ones where they can physically silence opposing voices (banning/muting on social media and forums, shouting people who can't talk back out of classrooms, etc).
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West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
OP : You are all misogynists!
Me :
Me :
Hrk69
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lmimmfn
Member
So you're saying we should go LIVE?
YuLY
Member
Some people would agree, but you can also make a case for the PS360 era:
-Assassins Creed 2 + Brotherhood (best ACs - Ezio, enough said)
-Rainbow Six Vegas 1+2 (these are still beloved to this day, still mad they cancelled Patriots...)
-Far Cry 3 (the best one which became a template for a lot of open world game the following decade)
-Splinter Cell Blacklist (this game is underrated tbh, I only put it behind Chaos Theory)
-Rayman Legends (arguably the best one)
They still made great games a decade ago, I feel like their downfall started with the Watch Dogs downgrade fiasco and that bullshit trailer they put out when the game looked like it was an earlier gen when it launched. Then they cancelled campaigns in the next Rainbow Six and made it a competitive shooter with Siege, then Splinter Cell went dormant for over a decade, Ghost Recon Wildlands was actually pretty cool for the type of game they made but then Breakpoint was a disaster an always online trash with so many bugs at launch and so many other fumbles. Something happened to them around 2013-2014.
