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YouTube is experimenting with not allowing users to use the desktop site with ad blockers enabled on browsers
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Forsete
Member
I have YT Premium already. YT has taken the place of regular TV for me, so it is worth it. I don't even have the aerial hooked up to my TV anymore.
I run SponsorBlock though, because I hate all kinds of commercials/advertisement. And AdBlock/Wipr for all other adverts when browsing.
I run SponsorBlock though, because I hate all kinds of commercials/advertisement. And AdBlock/Wipr for all other adverts when browsing.
Trilobit
Member
I've got Youtube Premium Lite as I can't deal with the ads. I mostly watch on my LGTV so I'd have to do some Raspberry Pi type of stuff on my router to get adblock. When I watched on my computer Ublock was a given.
Youtube is unusable with ads. Absolutely mad amount of commercials.
Youtube is unusable with ads. Absolutely mad amount of commercials.
Superkewl
Member
I have had YT premium for over a year now and I cant imagine life without it. I just with they had a cheaper version strictly for ad-free youtube as I really don't care about the other features. I use YT music a bit, but could easily live without it for a cheaper rate.
EDIT: Just saw the post above mine. This is precisely what I want but apparently not available in Canada yet :-(
EDIT: Just saw the post above mine. This is precisely what I want but apparently not available in Canada yet :-(
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Wildebeest
Member
Sounds like waves of mass layoffs are in the future for Google.
xrnzaaas
Member
Fighting adblockers will only make their users and developers fight back even harder. They're not all going to raise a white flag or pay for the subscription.
If you want people to allow the ads don't make them common & intrusive, if you want them to pay for the sub make it an awesome offering with multiple tiers for everyone to choose something.
If you want people to allow the ads don't make them common & intrusive, if you want them to pay for the sub make it an awesome offering with multiple tiers for everyone to choose something.
ScepticMatt
Member
SponsorBlock exists
supernova8
Banned
Same way that I click off news sites that try to force me to disable my adblocker.... I just won't use it then. Fuck them. Youtube doesn't care about me so I don't care about Youtube.
supernova8
Banned
Personally I couldn't ever go back to ads at all since I started using Adblock. It's night and day. Besides, web pages just load so much faster.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Thank you for also making an argument which is also the same one people worried about devaluing game prices (subscription gaming issue) and what it entails (over time similar to the race to bottom that happened with mobile game prices)…
You do not try to sell great new features, you try to sell going back to the experience they used to sell you before (“do not make the base free experience too good, just good enough to get you in the door for free”).
daffyduck
Member
Prime Video is what sells the sub, Prime shipping is the bonus. They had better not do some form of tiering.
Yeah, YouTube Premium is literally the only streaming service I haven't cancelled.
It gives me music and ad-free YouTube, honestly there's nothing else I really need.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Shit company. Shit for removing the dislike button and now shit for this.
JimmyRustler
Member
A couple of days ago I clicked for a YouTube video in Safari instead of my usual Brave…. My god, it was enraging. I just tried to skip to a scene in a playthrough to checkout how to proceed and every time I would fast forward or back a bit an add would be show. What in the world? They might just call it add tube by now.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I actually pay for YouTube Premium. The reason being is I'm stuck to my phone right now with no computer currently and I use YouTube almost on a daily basis, many times a day. The ads were getting way too much for me to handle so I just went ahead and paid for it.
I feel it's worth it since I use YouTube more than any other social media or streaming service.
I feel it's worth it since I use YouTube more than any other social media or streaming service.
LordOfChaos
Member
Yeaaah I guess I can do browser + Adguard Pro and that does it, but tbh the browser is just a worse experience than the native app
Too bad there's no way to kill those ads in iOS, it used to be simple back in the day but then they smartened up and started serving ads from the same servers as the video so a DNS adblock can't tell the difference
Omg I didn't know about sponsorblock, it can even skip self promotions and plz liek and subscribe shit, this has been a very useful thread!
I wish I could adblock and sponsorblock my whole brain, get out of there marketing!
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nkarafo
Member
Adblockers will continue to exist, they will just get updated or some new ones will pop-up.
Maybe it will be harder to implemented. That's fine, i consider myself a power user so i will manage to make it work no matter what.
Maybe when the fewer power users are the only ones left who don't watch ads, Google will stop caring.
Maybe it will be harder to implemented. That's fine, i consider myself a power user so i will manage to make it work no matter what.
Maybe when the fewer power users are the only ones left who don't watch ads, Google will stop caring.
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Spaceman292
Banned
Kinda funny I use YouTube more than anything I'm subscribed to but fuck me if I'm ever paying for it
DrFigs
Member
I've found that adblockers never work on hulu or twitch. if google wanted, they can definitely block them successfully
Laieon
Member
Just get Revanced.
nkarafo
Member
Dunno, i don't browse Twitch but i tested it right now for a few minutes and i'm not seeing any ads with uBlock on Windows.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Dural
Member
For me YouTube Premium is worth it. I've had it for 5+ years now and there's no way I'd ever go back to using it with ads. I have the family plan so my wife has her own account as do my kids. My wife uses YouTube music daily on her commute to work and pretty much anytime we're driving in the car. I don't use any other streaming services, it's all I really need.
gaming_again
Member
I spend a relatively large amount of money each month throwing money at creators I love directly. I wish more had the option to do this on their pages.
I don't mind ads, but youtube seems to handle them horribly:
1) 2 ads back to back
2) They seem to be random in length-Sometimes one will be a full length, and then a shorter one, and this randomness is spread throughout the video. So when I'm listening by bluetooth, I'm never sure if I need to go back to my tablet to skip it or let it play for the 5 or 12 seconds.
3) They're badly designed for the format. You have 5 SECONDS to tell people about your product, make it count(unskippable ads or when people want to skip it). Some of these ads seem to be wasting money trying to essentially run lame TV ads on Youtube, or play ads with videos, but no audio cues to tell people of the product, you can't do that shit.
4) People tend to 'tune out' ads, so you've already lost them the moment your ads start playing, and unlike TV where you get prepped for ads and there is a certain amount of time before you get back to your programming, ads just shove their way into the middle of a sentence or word and the viewer will just want to jump back to their thing and are just hovering on the skip button or tuning it out until it ends.
5-12 second ads on Youtube(Ads with a jingle and saying their product name and relaying that service within that time) with Youtubers accounting for those breaks in their videos make the most sense, otherwise it seems Advertisers are just wasting money on the platform for the most part. But I guess if you deluge someone with shit, some things are gonna stick.
Also I dunno, maybe Youtube can actually do a third party service where they connect and work with Youtubers and advertisers? Jesus Christ, Raid Shadow Legends, Ridge Wallet, Raycons, whatever the fuck VPN and 'sketchy service/product' can't be the only ones constantly shoving money into Youtubers pockets.
1) 2 ads back to back
2) They seem to be random in length-Sometimes one will be a full length, and then a shorter one, and this randomness is spread throughout the video. So when I'm listening by bluetooth, I'm never sure if I need to go back to my tablet to skip it or let it play for the 5 or 12 seconds.
3) They're badly designed for the format. You have 5 SECONDS to tell people about your product, make it count(unskippable ads or when people want to skip it). Some of these ads seem to be wasting money trying to essentially run lame TV ads on Youtube, or play ads with videos, but no audio cues to tell people of the product, you can't do that shit.
4) People tend to 'tune out' ads, so you've already lost them the moment your ads start playing, and unlike TV where you get prepped for ads and there is a certain amount of time before you get back to your programming, ads just shove their way into the middle of a sentence or word and the viewer will just want to jump back to their thing and are just hovering on the skip button or tuning it out until it ends.
5-12 second ads on Youtube(Ads with a jingle and saying their product name and relaying that service within that time) with Youtubers accounting for those breaks in their videos make the most sense, otherwise it seems Advertisers are just wasting money on the platform for the most part. But I guess if you deluge someone with shit, some things are gonna stick.
Also I dunno, maybe Youtube can actually do a third party service where they connect and work with Youtubers and advertisers? Jesus Christ, Raid Shadow Legends, Ridge Wallet, Raycons, whatever the fuck VPN and 'sketchy service/product' can't be the only ones constantly shoving money into Youtubers pockets.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Well, understandable, and they also sort of had to do it because they have a sizeable bunch of paying customers now. Youtube is my favorite service and out of many it would be the last one I'd cancel, so why wouldn't I have Premium.. It also comes with Music, which I also use daily (I used spotify premium before).
No offence, just an honest question to those of you that can already afford to pay for other subs/services and also use youtube daily: What's the specific reason for the reluctancy to pay for this service in particular?
No offence, just an honest question to those of you that can already afford to pay for other subs/services and also use youtube daily: What's the specific reason for the reluctancy to pay for this service in particular?
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ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
I stopped watching cable the minute i got to live on my own.
Fucking inside gossip culture programs. NPC shows and commercials.
YT premium only.
No Social media as well.
supernova8
Banned
Youtube has been free from the very beginning, the other services like Netflix were never free. Sure I'm using adblock so I'm technically "cheating the system" (assuming the tacit agreement is that I agree to watch ads in return for being able to watch videos for free).
Plus, it's not like Youtube is really the same as Netflix or Amazon Prime. Youtube is closer to something like Twitter or Facebook but just in video form. There's pretty much zero content management/curation on Youtube's part, at least not the sort of vetting you get with Netflix or Amazon Prime.
I guess you could call me greedy or wanting to have my cake and eat it and ... yeah that's fine. I will watch Youtube ad-free until I can no longer watch it ad free and then I'll make a decision what I'm going to do. I'm not paying for Youtube though. It's not happening. End result would probably be that I disable adblock for Youtube but watch it far less often because the amount of ads will put me off.
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Goalus
Member
The mistake is to use Chrome.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
People act like YouTube runs on charity.
Does anyone know how much it costs to host the countless videos uploaded daily? It just seems like people acting entitled when some are mad this feature is being experimented with.
I lay for premium for this reason. Ads are annoying to me and I don't even use YouTube music or other perks.
What does annoy me sometimes is the sponsor spots and how some channels abuse that. To their credit, some are pretty creative with those and they are entertaining kind of like Bill Burr and his podcast reads.
Does anyone know how much it costs to host the countless videos uploaded daily? It just seems like people acting entitled when some are mad this feature is being experimented with.
I lay for premium for this reason. Ads are annoying to me and I don't even use YouTube music or other perks.
What does annoy me sometimes is the sponsor spots and how some channels abuse that. To their credit, some are pretty creative with those and they are entertaining kind of like Bill Burr and his podcast reads.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Wow I lived to see people defending multi-billion dollar corporation. You guys are pathetic.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
That is a lot of steps.....is there just an IOS app?
supernova8
Banned
Exactly lol. "Jeez guy's just gotta make a dollar!".
Fuck off Alphabet/Google/Youtube collectively make shit loads of money. They don't need our sympathy or our goodwill.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Especially when they farm and sell your data all across the web to the highest bidder, and what do you get for it?
ADS!
diffusionx
Gold Member
regardless of how much money they make, they're going to take steps to stop people from freeloading. it's an easy place to look to raise revenue, see Netflix cracking down on password sharing.
The era of endless free money is over.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They literally freeload our data.
Either way, it's an endless battle, you knock down one solution, 3 more pop up. SmartTube is testament to that when they got rid of YT Vanced. Only this time, its homebase is in Ukraine even if open source. Would not be good optics in current year.
There probably will be once side-loading launches in the EU. Old Vanced was just an APK file you downloaded and confirmed the checksum.
Patching isn't as hard as it seems. It's pretty much automatic once you've downloaded the two required files.
supernova8
Banned
Yep I will always block their ads (and avoid paying premium) if I can. It's not exactly the same as pirating games or something.
winjer
Gold Member
Truth be told, Google is the company that is freeloading on it's users.
They make billions by stealing user data and privacy, and selling it to other companies.
We must remember that we are not the client. We are the product.
It's really strange to see some people defending companies like Google.