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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward |OT| -- More Hours, More Persons, More Doors
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My issue with 999's story wasn't exactly the supernatural elements...it was that the character's motivations did not really feel believable. That Akane told her friends her story and they believed her and helped her establish such an elaborate and dangerous scenario did not feel believable at all to me.
Even though I liked a lot of 999, all the little things added up and soured me quite a bit on the game...the story, the repetition, the heavy handed dialog, the lack of challenging puzzles.
Thankfully it seems like a lot of this is remedied in VLR.
Even though I liked a lot of 999, all the little things added up and soured me quite a bit on the game...the story, the repetition, the heavy handed dialog, the lack of challenging puzzles.
Thankfully it seems like a lot of this is remedied in VLR.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
The intro of the sec
urity room is destroying me.. Can't figure out anything past the letters/light switch/timekeeper with numbers on them. Jesus.
Schadenfreude
Member
Awww yeah. Amazon has finally shipped my order, those lazy buggers. Now to play the waiting game.
Enter the passwords on the computer panels. The corresponding chair color to the color shown on the stairs when you turned off the lights.
Grrrr, Alice betrayed me, and I placed my trust in her! I just reached the garden puzzle, I'm going to take a slight break and see if I can get through that puzzle without hitting any major hiccups like I did with the cabin puzzle.
The game is great so far. I am in love with it during the novel section.
I am still bummed that Sigma doesn't have any voice-acting. The OVA led me to false expectations. :-(
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
LOL. I was over thinking it by a long shot. I was integrating the numbers I found with those letters. Figures! Thank you.
Hours Left
Member
Well, my Amazon order from the Vita version is "Shipping Soon", and my 3DS copy should be here tomorrow.
So close... x_x
So close... x_x
PurpleMaster
Member
In the beginning I wanted 999 to be "normal", I usually hate paranormal things.
So, when the ending unfolded, I was like: uhm... Ok...
But since it was a deep and emotional story, it quickly grew on me!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
So does Monkey Ball.
MB looks to sport some AA as well. Looks very nice on the OLED.
UberTag
Member
Even the contrasts you highlighted aren't that extreme. They're evident on the surface but superficial once you dig into them.
The talking rabbit is simply the visual representation of an A.I. script.
Provides a more concrete antagonist than a disembodied Zero voice recording over a loud speaker... but hardly a "fantastic" element.
K is a guy trapped in an outfit. Has no memory like Seven. The outfit itself isn't much more of a stretch than being trapped in a bracelet with a bomb detonator or suicide needles comprised within it. Strikes me as more an evolution of a 999 concept than a fantastic element... although I worry that concealing K's identity is going to be more of a plot device to throw off us gamers than it will serve as a logical decision within VLR's Ambidex game. Clearly I'll discover whether or not that's the case as I play further.
As for the names Phi and Sigma... yeah, they're a little odd. I'm assuming there's some logical rationale behind them being named after letters in the Greek alphabet that we're to discover through our journey with the game.
I feel bad. I betrayedFeels bad.Clover.
Might as well get the worse choices out of the way first.
You monster.
CornBurrito
Member
Fack... I need to play this game. Hopefully I can pick it up tomorrow after my tests.
Also my class recently covered how to win at the Prisoner's Dilemma. So I'm excite to try it out.
- Start off Cooperative
- Play whatever your opponent played against you last
- Be instantly forgiving
Also my class recently covered how to win at the Prisoner's Dilemma. So I'm excite to try it out.
- Start off Cooperative
- Play whatever your opponent played against you last
- Be instantly forgiving
Stuck on a puzzle, help please! I am in B. Garden right now, and I am attempting to figure out the stars. I'm a little stumped on this one. I think it has to involve the lion mosaic, but I don't see the connection. And I still must find the key to the tombstone!
Edit: I just found the use for the lever, so let's see how this helps me.
Edit: I just found the use for the lever, so let's see how this helps me.
CornBurrito
Member
Are the English voiceovers good?
Not bad. Not great, but not bad.
Order from biggest to smallest and then smallest to biggest for both passwords.
I like every one except for Clover's.
That...would be hilarious.
My gif editing skills suck or I would of done it.
If you don't mind me asking, what is a Prisoner's Dilemma?
Everyone besides Clover have a good voice actor(ress). Zero III is simply brilliant though. And Clover's voice actress is simply okay. It isn't bad or anything like that.
CornBurrito
Member
It is a game scenario where two criminals are brought in for interrogation.
Prisoner A and Prisoner B.
If both prisoners cooperate, both get 1 year in jail.
If both prisoners tattle, both get 10 years.
If Prisoner A does not tattle, while Prisoner B does: A gets 30 years. B gets 5 years.
and vice versa.
Now you are Prisoner A. Do you tattle on B or keep silent? If you only play once, you should always tattle. If you play multiple times though, different strategies have different expected results. The best strategy seems to be Tit for Tat, the strategy I outlined.
edit:
Hmm I'll give the English voices a try.
Um, what the dick? This revelation on my first route is crazy as fuck.
Wtf? That sounds just like the Ambidex Game!
Law enforcements doesn't actually...do this do they?
Wtf? That sounds just like the Ambidex Game!
Law enforcements doesn't actually...do this do they?
I highly doubt it. Law enforcement would rather get the most years out of the criminals as possible...once they get person ratting on the other, that's all they need.
CornBurrito
Member
Lol no. No law enforcement I know does this.
And yes it sounds like the Ambidex Game because the game is just one big Prisoner's Dilemma.
I ended up choosing the leftmost path, so I figure I'm just gonna need go left to right, since the rightmost path is the true end anyways.
That's cause the Ambidex Game is all Prisoner's Dilemma.
Belisarius
Member
No, not so far as I know. To quote from Wikipedia: "The prisoner's dilemma is a canonical example of a game analyzed in game theory that shows why two individuals might not cooperate, even if it appears that it is in their best interests to do so."
Hmmmm, you're right on the first one, but when I flip flop the order to smallest-to-biggest, I am receiving a "failed" message. The order should be green (smallest), purple (second smallest), yellow (medium size) , blue (second largest), red (largest). However, this order isn't work.
I figure the closest would be a few years shaved off anyway, nothing as extreme as 2 years instead of 15 or whatever. And that'd probably apply to BOTH tattling since it's probably going to bring down others that weren't identified or found. Well, so I'd imagine anyway.
Yup, that was the first order I did and met with success. The other way is not working though.
Try ordering them by order of appearance. The one closest to the entrance is first, last one is the one that pops up where the lion face is.
Koroviev
Member
I agree with this. While I appreciate all of the thought that went into making everything come together logically, certain motives are just way too far-fetched.
Eureka! That did the trick. I went with the furthest star (purple) and built up to the lion (red).
I appreciate the help, MooMoo and Kagari.Time to continue on with the game!...After I charge my Vita up.
Did my first ending (the
one) and...I don't know what the hell I just looked at but...I have to play more now. T_T
Oh, ok. I was getting scared for a minute. Not that I'm doing anything illegal to be caught up with the men (women) in blue of course.
Ah...cool. They should incorporate that Dilemma in a new Saw movie.
So it only reinforces the "snitches get stitches" and "stay silent and I get violent" thing I hear from people?
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Oh, ok. I was getting scared for a minute. Not that I'm doing anything illegal to be caught up with the men (women) in blue of course.
Lol no. No law enforcement I know does this.
And yes it sounds like the Ambidex Game because the game is just one big Prisoner's Dilemma.
Ah...cool. They should incorporate that Dilemma in a new Saw movie.
So it only reinforces the "snitches get stitches" and "stay silent and I get violent" thing I hear from people?
Finished replaying 999's True End. There are a few moments that could've been paced better, but it's still got some really incredible stuff.
Took note of a couple different ideas on my way through that may or may not pop up in VLR. Will be interesting to see if I was paying attention to the right stuff.
Now here's hoping UPS does my part of town early tomorrow...
Took note of a couple different ideas on my way through that may or may not pop up in VLR. Will be interesting to see if I was paying attention to the right stuff.
Now here's hoping UPS does my part of town early tomorrow...
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I had to do a double-take at that one.
Yup
wrote it down in the memo pad
And a badass.
I'm a believer in the "Sigma is a G" club now.
So swag.