crazepharmacist
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For someone running an I7920@4ghz, would it be a good idea to turn on hyperthreading? Doesn't it recommend 8 cores?
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DarkLiberator
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Does hyperthreading even help your performance in games that are multitrheaded?
Yeah sure lol https://twitter.com/killyourfm/status/470083302993702913
brain_stew
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Absolutely.
Ohh toastally. I'm surprised the game even runs without 3 Titan Zs in SLI.
I am not surprised by this..it's ubisoft that means unoptimised for every PC.
MaestroBanyen
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Intel i7-3771k @ 3.5 GHZ
GeForce 780M
16 GB Ram 1600MHz DDR3
I'm hoping at running the game with a mix with ultra/high. Do you think that would be attainable?
I also wouldn't mind 30 FPS IF it looks amazing. Which by the screens it does IMO.
GeForce 780M
16 GB Ram 1600MHz DDR3
I'm hoping at running the game with a mix with ultra/high. Do you think that would be attainable?
I also wouldn't mind 30 FPS IF it looks amazing. Which by the screens it does IMO.
xBladeM6x
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What a tool. Lol
The point is that's it's straight up untrue. Unless his definition of "reasonable settings" is Ultra, even mid-range gaming PCs can play this game just fine if you lower the settings a bit.
What a load of crap, it is very clear that tons of cards can handle this game at "reasonable settings" (as proven by all the videos about the place).
dat FUD
Boss Mog
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So my friend just told me that the game only runs at 30fps or 60fps depending on what settings you go with. Like if you're settings can't handle a stable 60fps it just bumps you down to 30fps. There's no in between according to him. Is this true? If so that's the shittiest thing I've ever heard of.
finalflame
Banned
After an hour or two of tweaking, this is my sweet spot for 55-65 FPS constant, bar insane situations where it might dip down to 45-50. I am pretty happy with it, but the game is clearly very unoptimized and at the very least a new nVidia driver should drop before release, considering how much they've promoted it.
I am using:
2560x1440 @ 100hz
"High Preset" except HBAO+ High
MSAA 2X
High Textures
My specs:
i5-4670K @ 4.2ghz
EVGA GTX 780 Ti @ 1500/7800mhz
16gb Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3-1600
And this is what my game looks like:
I'm pretty underwhelmed. This would be acceptable if the game looked phenomenal, but it does not.
I am using:
2560x1440 @ 100hz
"High Preset" except HBAO+ High
MSAA 2X
High Textures
My specs:
i5-4670K @ 4.2ghz
EVGA GTX 780 Ti @ 1500/7800mhz
16gb Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3-1600
And this is what my game looks like:
I'm pretty underwhelmed. This would be acceptable if the game looked phenomenal, but it does not.
maneil99
Member
That screen looks fucking awful... On a pretty good machine forced to high settings.
Wait so you're at 1440p, running on an i5, and you're complaining the game runs at 60 fps on high.
Good lord.
maneil99
Member
An i5 would have no effect on a higher resolution. The game is running below 60 fps on a machine that is within the top 5% of all machines out there
Good lord you don't know much do you?
Deleted, now he is claiming that it is using only 3GB on Nvidia cards (ohh look, someone did not test before making big claims, how am I not surprised).
maneil99
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Not sure what his status was but he likely saw the 4k screens with GPU usage and thought it was 1080p
An i5 would have an effect on the game running at 60 fps or not however. Considering it's running at 60 fps on high, that's better than I expected.
Boss Mog
Member
I don't know he didn't go too much into detail. He was just pissed that he had to turn some options to medium to get stable 60fps on his GTX 680.
maneil99
Member
An i5 would have no effect on your fps if you went from 1080p to 8k. The i5 is still doing the same exact job. The GPU is what takes a performance hit when you increase your resolution.
Ok? The fact stands that an open-world game like this running at 60 fps on an i5 when they clearly stated you would need an i7 is better than expected.
GHG
Gold Member
Of course an i5 will have an impact on framerate. He will also be vram limited at that res.
His machine will be good for ultra at 1080p. Higher resolutions? Not so much. You need a card with 4-6 GB of ram for that from what I'm seeing.
Can you upload to another image hoster please, imgur is terrible.
maneil99
Member
You seriously think an i7 is needed after all the videos and gameplay out there? His 4.2 ghz i5 is faster in passmark ( the benchmark the ubisoft director used ) then a 2nd gen i7 2600k
finalflame
Banned
Sure, any recommendations? I only know of imgur, don't know other places with less/no compression.
I also got some footage. I thought it recorded at 1440, but apparently shadowplay automatically samples it down to 1080. Gonna upload that.
minus or flickr are preferred afaik
Karak
Member
TheVampire
Banned
I'm surprised as you when it comes to Ubisoft. They actually did manage to use hyperthreading, based on what I see in that video.
That's not a strawman.
Many people said do not get an i7, those are only for streaming, editing, etc. i5 is all you will need - we are barely into the next-gen console generation, and we can already see that i7 is going to become very necessary.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Anybody with an i5 3570k able to weigh in?
finalflame
Banned
Also updated the original post with the Minus link. I have some footage, too. Uploading it to youtube, but I know that's not ideal for 60fps..any other, good, free, web video upload sites I could use?
GHG
Gold Member
Abload.de is normally best.
CPU requirements are not always directly linked to the visual quality of a game. Especially in a game like this when there is quite a bit going on in the background.
All things considered, for an open world game this seems like a pretty decent port.
The main issue is around peoples expectations, particulary with individuals who have built a new PC in the last 12 months based on a 4 core CPU and a gpu with 2GB of VRAM. They were incorrectly told that they would be fine to max next gen games out for the forseeable future but the reality is very different as that is clearly not the case.
GHG
Gold Member
Use vimeo for the video.
maneil99
Member
I was referring to people running the game with i5s maxed with 780s and neither having full utilization. You think this is a good port? A game where people with AMD cards can't seem to play ultra with cards that match the nvidia counterpart.?A game that has built in mouse acceleration? A game that uses 5gb~ of VRAM for 1440p? Your biases have been made clear awhile ago but how you can call this a good port is beyond me.
DarkLiberator
Banned
There's creatorcast, but you need beta access.
Watch Dogs at around 60 FPS
http://creatorscast.com/watch/vkqn5lpB6m
Do you even understand what "needed" and "necessary" mean?
Hell, that video quoted by the person you quoted was not proof of anything, it only showed that the Window's CPU scheduler was putting some threads on cores that already had something running on their other (logical core / thread what ever), standard practice.
It does not show 1. what speed up the game was getting from it, 2. if the game was taking notable advantage of it (and it was not something like the program that was recording the footage or other programs that are running)!
brain_stew
Member
What were you expecting? You're running at 2.5x the resolution of the PS4 version at twice the framerate and with higher image quality settings and that's unpatched without any optimised drivers. That doesn't sound unoptimised to me. I personally wasn't expecting anyone with an i5 or anyone running at 2560x1440 to hit 60fps yet here we are.
maneil99
Member
Same thing was said about Crysis 3 which gained a whopping 4 fps with a 3770k vs a 3470
With Dx12 coming thats even less so. If the i7s with true multicores will move ahead, HT will not. Even thats extremely unlikely.
brain_stew
Member
When time and again AMD have botched game releases with their drivers, I'd be hesitant to apportion all the blame for that one at UbiSoft's door.
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