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[foxuzamaki]

I mean wow, im assuming prime 2 and 3 were also atleast targetting 60 fps.
How can such a graphically intensive game(for the gamecube) have such a framerate, especially prime 2. Thats like if the last of us managed to pull off 60 fps on PS3 or halo 4 for that matter.

 

[NotLiquid]

It's immersion, baby

 

[Jswanko]

Didn't know that, but it always looked phenomenal. I'd assume the limited space (lots of corridors and such) contributed to lessening the load.

 

[Phediuk]

To be fair, it did compensate by having individual rooms being very small and closed-in. I don't think it ever loaded more than about 5 characters at a time, and enemy AI was very simple. The game was almost constantly loading the next room.

 

[Phazon]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

 

[antitrop]

The GameCube was a beast,

 

[Vol5]

Clever use of doors. Each segment was separately loaded and I assume was polished to run at 60.

 

[Pifje]

Comparing apples to oranges. That's an artform only a few can truly master.

 

[StuBurns]

It's pretty tiny, but yes, it was certainly a technical achievement.

Also, the best GC game, not too shabby.

 

[Saintguine]

Nintendo generally prioritizes gameplay over graphics. Like you'll see that Metroid Prime doesn't have the technical edge in graphics like somes Xbox titles that are around 20-30FPS generally like Riddick and Doom 3.

Also, wait till you see F-Zero GX in motion.

 

[oneida]

is it that hard to believe?

 

[phanphare]

Nintendo: "Next Gen" since the GCN

 

[hlhbk]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

Wow I need to go back and play that!

 

[MisterHero]

there's no fmvs and the texture work is pretty average (I actually prefer Prime's use of geometry anyways). the game loads small rooms at a time and there's a visible load time when opening some doors.

 

[Squalor]

To be fair, it did compensate by having individual rooms being very small and closed-in.

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

 

[Monty Mole]

The MP trilogy was fucking amazeballs. The atmosphere, immersion and gameplay. And all at a locked 60fps, so smooth and fluid. It's no surprise so many people are up in arms about Retro working on DK. It's not that DK isn't awesome, it is. It's just not MP.

 

[AtomicShroom]

Small rooms, pre-baked lighting, no shaders, few and low-poly enemies on screen at any given time.

 

[10k]

The same way that got galaxy to look awesome and be 60fps. Small areas and hidden loading. Each planet was loaded during a flying star segment and it was the only thing rendered until you blasted off onto the next planet. In metroid, Each room was small and once you shot a door and went through it it would load the next room. It's clever.

 

[Branduil]

Post-N64, Nintendo has been better than most developers at achieving solid framerates.

 

[codhand]

Wow I need to go back and play that!

yeah not even MK8 tracks are fuckin with some GX tracks

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Yeah, it's pretty great.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how we moved backwards after that gen.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

Oh i know all about GX, I have it

 

[turnbuckle]

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

Forever? That's exaggerating a bit...

 

[MisterHero]

Post-N64, Nintendo has been better than most developers at achieving solid framerates.

F-Zero X for N64 had 30 racers at 60fps

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

Small rooms, pre-baked lighting, no shaders, few and low-poly enemies on screen at any given time.

Wow, every single thing in this post is wrong.
Impressive feat.

 

[Ridley327]

F-Zero X for N64 had 30 racers at 60fps

F-Zero X was a very glaring exception to the rule, though. Nintendo's games generally had stable framerates, but they weren't very high. And even then, Nintendo still had some really uneven games when it came to framerates for the Gamecube, particularly Super Mario Sunshine.

 

[Emperor Bohe]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

dat Sega secret sauce

 

[Forkball]

Great game, but not cinematic enough.

 

[MisterHero]

F-Zero X was a very glaring exception to the rule, though. Nintendo's games generally had stable framerates, but they weren't very high. And even then, Nintendo still had some really uneven games when it came to framerates for the Gamecube, particularly Super Mario Sunshine.

Admittedly they achieved it with some compromises. Some games need the performance and some don't.

 

[D_prOdigy]

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

Well, no.

 

[stilgar]

Great game, but not cinematic enough.

Almost no dialogue. Only boring text to read.

It really didn't age well, guys

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

Also, we didn't play the same game.

 

[Ridley327]

Admittedly they achieved it with some compromises. Some games need the performance and some don't.

That being said, I think they did a good job with the comic book art style for F-Zero X that helped explain why everything looked so basic, so there's that.

 

[entremet]

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

I never noticed. Definitely better than current gen stuff.

 

[Celegus]

Almost no dialogue. Only boring text to read.

It really didn't age well, guys

What is this I don't even.

 

[Kriken]

Great game, but not cinematic enough.

The cutscenes just aren't filmic enough, Retro made the wrong compromise

 

[SyaraSystem]

dat Sega secret sauce

IIRC, F-Zero GX was built on a modified Super Monkey Ball engine.

 

[foxuzamaki]

That being said, I think they did a good job with the comic book art style for F-Zero X that helped explain why everything looked so basic, so there's that.

I actually really love the 90's comic book artstyle, it fit the universe amazingly, I wonder if they can get away with it today.

 

[Dario ff]

Wow, every single thing in this post is wrong.
Impressive feat.

The pre-baked lighting part is true tho.

 

[Vlade]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

that was a very good game.

 

[hlhbk]

Almost no dialogue. Only boring text to read.

It really didn't age well, guys




Also, we didn't play the same game.

Not sure if serious?

 

[stilgar]

What is this I don't even.

Not sure if serious?

To be clearer through the internet, I should have mentioned that it lacks boobs and I'm confused because the space marine isn't bald

 

[Toa TAK]

Almost no dialogue. Only boring text to read.

It really didn't age well, guys

Nah, it's still better then most games out today.

To be clearer through the internet, I should have mentioned that it lacks boobs.

Doesn't even need them. Yeah, I said it. Doesn't need boobs.

 

[Koralsky]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

Actually this is SEGA developed game (AV), not Nintendo.

OP, comparison with TLOU and Halo 4 is more than pointless. Different hardware, different studios, different design philosophy and so one...

Through, I admit, Metroid Prime looks ridiculously good at 60FPS on original hardware.

 

[KHlover]

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

I think you're confusing it with Metroid Prime 3. That game actually got me killed a few times because it took so long for some doors to open

 

[Thrakier]

I mean wow, im assuming prime 2 and 3 were also atleast targetting 60 fps.
How can such a graphically intensive game(for the gamecube) have such a framerate, especially prime 2. Thats like if the last of us managed to pull off 60 fps on PS3 or halo 4 for that matter.

Because Nintendo/great devs are able to get their priorities right. Playability and gameplay first, then follow your artistic vision. Not the other way around, pumping needless effects and details in your game, which have far less impact on the overall quality than a great framerate.

 

[Leatherface]

The GC was SO underrated as a console. It was super optimized and easy by comparison to program for. Besides looking like a fisher price toy, it kicked serious ass. I loved it!

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Great game, but not cinematic enough.

I know this is a piss take, but MP felt plenty cinematic. The atmosphere, the details, scanning dead alien bodies and suspecting what killed them might still be there, Etc.

There are many who argue high framerate can't be "cinematic" but that is a lie

 

[ChuyMasta]

Leave it to Nintendo to get the best out of their own machine.

F-Zero GX is also very impressive on GC and had a butter smooth 60fps framerate

WebMb this sh*t!

 

[Xav]

It's quite interesting to see a series like Metroid Prime Trilogy run at 60 FPS and then see developers try to come up with excuses when failing to do the same with PS4/Xbone stuff two generations later.

 

[Leatherface]

Also, the game takes forever to load room to room.

No it didn't. Not even a little actually.