Solaire of Astora
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Yes, but the naughty gods have already done all the hard work getting the engine to run so smoothly on ps4. I'm sure BP could work on the uc trilogy. Especially if nd are willing to loan them a few support staff.
'The Last of Us: Remastered' coming to PS4, July 2014, [1080p, targeting 60 fps]
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Yes, but the naughty gods have already done all the hard work getting the engine to run so smoothly on ps4. I'm sure BP could work on the uc trilogy. Especially if nd are willing to loan them a few support staff.
shinobi602
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They've been saying for a while that they've updated the lighting model quite a bit too.
My question isn't whether or not they are good at hyping their game. I was specifically asking what someone was looking for.
I can understand it when talking a remake or something which has a change of artstyle or has to use new assets in characters and environments, I just don't understand it with a better running port. I just don't understand it.
What's not to understand? We're looking for what the new gameplay looks like. They keep hyping it on twitter, but we haven't seen why yet. I know how the game starts, what's going to happen, and how it's going to end. None of that will change for the remaster. Now show me how it looks and how it plays, show me the improvements that have been made. Quit showing me things that I already know about and that could ruin the experience for people who haven't played it yet. I preordered the game sight unseen, they already have my money. Now show me why it's different.
After seeing TLOU multiplayer in action, I think this would be an awesome idea. I miss SOCOM (I don't count any of the PS3 games at all).
If they've already sold you, why should they?
That's the point though. It will still be The Last of Us. If you want to see how the gameplay looks, then go on YouTube and watch one of 20 full length playthroughs. That is the gameplay of the game.
That comes in addition to everything. This is just looking for post-hoc rationalization of pre-ordering something without being sold on the game.
quickwhips
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New IP would be better. I want to see them do online coop story mode and more great multiplayer like I've watched in last of us.
SniperHunter
Banned
In the trailer they showed at e3. I thought the bloom on ellie while she was on the horse in the forest area looked really bad, like ps2 era bad...
Lighting did seem better though
Yup and I'd like to know why :|
HD collections and remasters are useful and important.
They help new gamers to play something they didn't years ago, they help those who had another console to play the games without being forced to buy an old console, they are also good for those who want to play a better version of a game they loved.
If I go out right now in a movie store, I bet I would find movies from 1980s, even remastered in HD, in DVD and BD. I myself bought a couple of Blu Ray movies that I had in DVD and it was damn worth it. This is something that rarely happens with games and even if I find one I have to own the console, I could purchase it on eBay but I doubt the average customer would do that.
You could argue that a better solution exists and it's called backward compatibility but it's another thing and unfortunately it's easier said than done sometimes.
These collections are a good way to keep alive great games over the years. Not all of them, that would be crazy, just the best ones. One year or 5 or 15 after the first release makes no difference, I would buy tomorrow more than a game from Wii if it has a decent HD makeup as well as Vanquish 1080p 60fps on PC or RE Rebirth and so on.
The only bad thing is that they take time and resources away from new projects, I can understand that.. but that's all.
Badlucktroll
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Last of Us and GTA V remasters will def. be part of my collection. No trading in at all. I fucking didnt finish last of us or GTA V on purpose!
Oh I don't know, to sell the people who are on the fence? To show off the achievements that they've made? Surely you can agree that showing zero gameplay footage from a remaster whose largest improvements are visuals and gameplay improvements is disappointing? Can you imagine Square announcing a ff7 remaster and only showing off cutscenes of Aeris dying and other key cutscenes until the game is released? I trust ND enough to give them my money sight unseen, I'm just saying its a strange decision and it's unfair to show off only the spoilers from the game without any gameplay for those that haven't already played it.
But that's precisely the point -- those thay haven't played it have hundreds of hours of gameplay to watch.
Honestly I think releasing gameplay footage is completely pointless, and no, I don't think it would improve sales whatsoever.
Firstly there is the issue of the medium with which people would view the footage. Predominantly it would be YT, which incurs hugely damaging compression artifacts to seriously compromise the visual aspect of the comparison, and it is limited to 30fps, obviously completely missing the performance aspect. So anyone watching this hypothetical footage on YT is going to be under the impression the upgrade is not particularly notable at all. But of course YT isn't the only answer, for the informed and quality concerned around these parts, they know of Gamersyde, downloading directly linked videos ND could host (although their site completely shit itself due to the very first little teaser video).
So who's benefiting from this video? The people who know about Gamersyde, and have a PC which can comfortably display 1080p/60fps video, or they could copy it to a PS3 and play it back. That audience is not only fairly small, they're also informed enough that they know exactly what to expect from a Remaster and if they want it or not.
I see no benefit to releasing a video, and plenty of downsides.
biggersmaller
Banned
So, it was laziness that brought us DVD versions of films already released on VHS. How do you feel about Blu-ray Criterion releases?
I am down for remastered versions of any and all celebrated classics.
Y Tu Mamá También coming soon! Victory for all.
Summer Haze
Banned
Wow, i commend your patience and willpower.
Serious question, do you consider Game of the Year edition of games, that come with the game + all D.L.C. on the disc for $50 usually a year from initial release (which is pretty standard) lazy? Also what if on top of that they uprezed the game an increase the frame rate aswell, why do you consider that lazy?
So what's your view on GOTY edition of games?
I want that too, which is why it's great that they have two teams, I say add a third. And a full collection doesn't have to be priority. Start it now, the departments with downtime or in between games can take turns on it until the next project takes priority, release a full collection toward end of life of PS4.
I'm sure a new IP would be just as welcomed but fans of halo I'm sure are happy to be getting a halo collection. But it depends on what studios/games you like. A Platinum games collection would be useless to me but probably excites everyone else.
New IP's should always be a priority but I love a good remastered game as well if it's a game or series I've enjoyed more than the new IP's released.
Wanting to preorder from the UK PSN store but no sign of it yet
Why? I'd be very surprised if it's not £45+
You can order a physical copy for £29. Or if you're set on digital, make a US account and it'll still cost you £29.
Agree to disagree. I would much prefer to see the improvements that have been made as opposed to a bunch of spoiler filled cutscenes. But I certainly see your point and agree that most people who wanted to see the footage would watch on YT. I just think that there's a better way to show off the game than showing all the most important moments from cutscenes.
Anyway, no more thread crapping from me. Looking forward to playing through again and sinking my teeth into the mp for more than the few minutes that I put in on ps3.
Adam_Roman
Member
It's so weird that people are pissed that TLoU's remaster's coming out merely a year later, yet everyone's so excited for GTAV's re-release a year later.
Wishmaster92
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Not me, i never liked gta games.
TheLostBigBoss
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Portugeezer
Member
60fps locked? Or one of those next gen 60fps "a lot of the time" like tomb raider and killzone mutliplayer?
No one really knows yet. As soon as they show gameplay previews I am sure DF will be all over it.
Not in my opinion.
AFAIR locked has meant you don't drop. Capped means you never exceed.
Northern_Manny
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I've literally never seen someone say 60 capped, but maybe that is the case.
Although virtually nothing will never drop a single frame.
Every game I know of with 'unlock framerate option' means they remove the high cap. It goes from maxing at 30 to whatever the pipeline can handle.
I have yet to play Last of Us or GTA V on last gen consoles.
The PS4 remasters will be the first time I experience those games.
I'm already glad I waited.
mercenar1e
Member
i want to see some game play footage already..
To be fair, you can't just make a "lock framerate option" that makes it so your game doesn't drop frames. You need to be above 30 under every stress related scenario to be able to cap it at 30 and thus have the result be locked at 30.
But yeah, people use different terms for the same concepts. I prefer the terms I used because there is a distinction there.
Not that I personally care for this that much. Frame rate is not even in the top 3 things I care about when even talking technical aspects of my favorite genre. (Third person action adventures.)
quickwhips
Member
But is it locked?
SniperHunter
Banned
Very few games are locked at 60 fps.
Dragon1893
Member
Wasn't a finished build though I agree completely that people should keep their expectations in check.
Seeing how they are still in dev and have not shown a gameplay snippet, I believe you saw the ps3 version on psnow. Might be dead wrong though.
I am willing to believe that. If there was real PS4 gameplay out in the wild it would be hitting the media blogs by now.
Ps now is not available in Europe, so I think it was the ps4 version, the IQ was much better than the ps3 version. Not sure if it was the final build though.
How do you uprez audio if it's already uncompressed?
Saberus
Member
Sorry, I call BS on this.. its not like ND going to let this out for people to play yet.
I'll also call BS on it, or at least question it. I just looked up Video Game Story and it seems to run from 6/30-9/7. I guess it could be open early or something, but everywhere I see to buy tickets has those dates.