Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING

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Uzzy

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I thought this was suppose to be on for an hour tomorrow night? On my TV guide all I see is 1 episode called "The terror within" for 30 mins and after that is spongebob. Ugh.

And if they cancel the show, I stop watching the channel, simple as that.

One episode tomorrow, the rest of Book 3 is going up on various streaming websites on a weekly basis.
 

RPGCrazied

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One episode tomorrow, the rest of Book 3 is going up on various streaming websites on a weekly basis.

For free? I can only see this as a bad thing. We all know we are going to have buffering problems and stuff when their servers can't handle the load.

Much as I love this show, I'm not going to pay to watch it.
 

remnant

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For free? I can only see this as a bad thing. We all know we are going to have buffering problems and stuff when their servers can't handle the load.

Much as I love this show, I'm not going to pay to watch it.

1. You already do
2. If that is the attitude the korra fanbase has, it deserves to die
 

360pages

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I think it's more of the ideal, that he's not going to subscribe to a site for maybe one or two shows.

That being said, I'm more concerned what streams/sites will be hosting it.
 

Uzzy

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For free? I can only see this as a bad thing. We all know we are going to have buffering problems and stuff when their servers can't handle the load.

Much as I love this show, I'm not going to pay to watch it.

This was the announcement. So it looks like it's paid platforms and Nick.com

Via Facebook:

Great news! After Friday's new episode all remaining Book 3 episodes will premiere weekly on Nick.com & the Nick app starting August 1, as well as on platforms like Amazon, Google Play, Xbox and Hulu: http://at.nick.com/1tFYHUB

I'm just trying to stay positive and be glad that we're at least getting the rest of Book 3, with a strong chance of getting Book 4 and a proper finish for the series.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Is there any possibility of Nick selling the rights to this show, preferably to Netflix, so that more seasons can be made?

Nick doesn't have a history of selling off property (at least I don't think so). Invader Zim never made them much money and that had a pretty big cult/niche following. Then again, I'm not sure if anyone ever tried to offer to buy it. The Avatar universe is a much bigger thing. So maybe another company might make an offer.

I wouldn't count on it happening within the next 2 years though.
 
To the bolded, while I completely understand, I thought this was also the case for the original series? If so that didn't stop them having big plans beyond what was already funded.

But ATLA always had plans from the creators to continue the series, with Korra they decided that it wasn't going to be the case. Again, I remember reading that the 12 episodes they eventually got were not even planned for initially, and it might have originally been a 6 episode mini once it was not going to be a TV movie. Book 1 was supposed to be the full story of Korra as far as they were concerned when they made it. The ending doesn't work that well when you know the series will continue, but it works just fine as an ending to a show. S2 is much the same way.

To be fair to your point though, they also said they didn't want to do another gigantic arc ala TLA. That's also understandable because well, that was what they just finished. Still, the structure of the show is pretty much a result of how it was funded and the desires of the network.
 

Peagles

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But ATLA always had plans from the creators to continue the series, with Korra they decided that it wasn't going to be the case. Again, I remember reading that the 12 episodes they eventually got were not even planned for initially, and it might have originally been a 6 episode mini once it was not going to be a TV movie. Book 1 was supposed to be the full story of Korra as far as they were concerned when they made it. The ending doesn't work that well when you know the series will continue, but it works just fine as an ending to a show. S2 is much the same way.

To be fair to your point though, they also said they didn't want to do another gigantic arc ala TLA. That's also understandable because well, that was what they just finished. Still, the structure of the show is pretty much a result of how it was funded and the desires of the network.

Yeh, I guess I was just wondering if it really was their desire to make standalone seasons or whether it was network pressure beating down on them even back then. I wondered at the time but I'm wondering again now because of what's been happening lately.

The moral of the story for me is, if I ever create something I must keep sole ownership of the rights at all costs.
 

Mononoke

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To the bolded, while I completely understand, I thought this was also the case for the original series? If so that didn't stop them having big plans beyond what was already funded.

ATLA always had an overall arc the writers wanted to achieve. Korra wasn't that fleshed out (even in an outline sense). They were basically writing it as they went along. ATLA also was written as it went along, but they had like an overall idea of where they wanted it to go.

Korra Book 1 they were thought the finale would be it, so they wrapped it up. I don't think this excuses the bad writing tbh. Even if it WAS a one season show, they could have done a better job. The problem IMO is how it impacted story moving forward (once it became an extended deal). It became this problem that kept building on top of itself.
 

Shaanyboi

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You know what I mean. I don't have to pay for it other than my cable bill.

You misunderstood me. I'm not going to pirate it. If they charge for the show online, I won't watch it I guess.

There is absolutely zero reason why they would make these available for free other than streaming off their website. Atleast there, they'd make some money off of ad revenue.

But no, they're not just going to give you 5 episodes of a high-quality animated show free of charge. Not even sure why you'd ask that.
 

RPGCrazied

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There is absolutely zero reason why they would make these available for free other than streaming off their website. Atleast there, they'd make some money off of ad revenue.

But no, they're not just going to give you 5 episodes of a high-quality animated show free of charge. Not even sure why you'd ask that.

I just mean free as netflix or amazon instant video? Not like them uploading episodes to youtube. Sorry, I didn't clarify.

I know those services aren't free either, but a good chunk of the population has those streaming services already.
 

PBalfredo

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Just heard about this and this really soured my mood today. I watch new episodes of Korra with my family. Now we'll have to crowd around a computer monitor for new episodes. Maybe I can hook my laptop to display through the tv.

This had better not affect season 4.
 

SykoTech

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After the online finale blowout from Book 2, my sister and I joked about Nick just burning the rest of the show off by making it online only.

welp

Oh well, there's always TMNT. Probably the last western action cartoon left actually. But at least Nick can't possibly screw up that show.

Clearly, your unwillingness to pay for a Hulu sub to watch it is why Nick has constantly fucked up the scheduling.

Clearly.

Indeed. Not sure why everyone jumped on RPGCrazied there. Can't blame him/her for not wanting to get another bill by subbing just to watch one show.
 

DedValve

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After the online finale blowout from Book 2, my sister and I joked about Nick just burning the rest of the show off by making it online only.

welp

Oh well, there's always TMNT. Probably the last western action cartoon left actually. But at least Nick can't possibly screw up that show.



Indeed. Not sure why everyone jumped on RPGCrazied there. Can't blame him/her for not wanting to get another bill by subbing just to watch one show.

Exactly. This is so stupid, their sending the show to die. And I buy the blu-rays too :(
 

AniHawk

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maybe season 4 is already done and it'll be included when you download the video game, but only when you download the video game.
 

Dorrin

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So I just heard about this and I've got to ask.. what exactly will they be airing on TV during its timeslot instead? I mean was it rating so bad that basically anything else was better? I really enjoyed sitting around the TV watching with my wife and kids, was a weekly thing for us. Now online only... ugh

I'd love to get the inside story about this show and why Nick just has to constantly fuck with it.
 

Satch

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So I just heard about this and I've got to ask.. what exactly will they be airing on TV during its timeslot instead? I mean was it rating so bad that basically anything else was better? I really enjoyed sitting around the TV watching with my wife and kids, was a weekly thing for us. Now online only... ugh

I'd love to get the inside story about this show and why Nick just has to constantly fuck with it.

s p o n g e b o b s q u a r e p a n t s
 

Ponn

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After the online finale blowout from Book 2, my sister and I joked about Nick just burning the rest of the show off by making it online only.

welp

Oh well, there's always TMNT. Probably the last western action cartoon left actually. But at least Nick can't possibly screw up that show.

Well, until Nick starts screwing with their schedule and making it hard to keep track of new episodes - like they already have. If it wasn't for Gaf I would have had no idea about TMNT new episodes and even then missed them. And even comcast couldn't keep up with their schedule changes with the guide saying it was on and some crappy teen show was on instead.

The programmers at Nick and CN are on crack and shows like ATLA, Korra, TMNT, YJ and GL suffer for it.

Plus I love how they spin it as "Good news everybody!" uh no...thats not good news at all, well next to the episodes you have left being thrown in a trash can and burned I guess. I can't even get the Nick app because for some reason Nick hates Comcast and won't let me choose them as a provider.
 

Dany

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Nick was trying its best to garner viewers and combat piracy.

And they failed.

This sucks, but it won't change how I watch the show. I only hope the best for book 4.
 

360pages

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What most people don't understand about combating piracy, is that you risk just making the real viewers having a really crappy time with your product, sometimes it's better to just bite the bullet and deal with some piracy as long as you can keep your honest viewers/ content consumers happy rather than making things so complicated that people just say **** it.

Of course I don't think that has anything to do with how badly nick is messing everything up.
 
If we get Book 4 in its full form, this won't be as bad because at least it ended when it was intended to do so. If Nick shaves away at Book 4 or cans it completely (I don't fully believe that they won't, even at this late stage of production) it will be a real shame.

As well if we don't get both Book 3 and 4 on blu-ray I will never forgive Nick and likely never give another show on a kid's network a chance. After Young Justice and now this, I have zero faith in the desire of cartoon execs to provide quality programming over toy sales.


Speaking of, what happened with that? The '80s were all about cartoons being glorified commercials for toys, but in the '90s that all but disappeared. Sure, there were toys for Rugrats but they weren't the reason for the show to exist. Hell, I don't even remember there ever being any toys for Rocko, Dexter, Doug, so on. Even in the early '00s I don't remember there really being any Spongebob toys until the movie, same with FOP, Danny Phantom, Samurai Jack...

What has changed in the last ~6 years that toy sales have become the driving motivation behind cartoon production for executives? Has online viewership really taken a big enough chunk out of live ratings that executives are scared and resorting to toy profits to keep a dated and aging method of broadcast alive?
 

SykoTech

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Well, until Nick starts screwing with their schedule and making it hard to keep track of new episodes - like they already have. If it wasn't for Gaf I would have had no idea about TMNT new episodes and even then missed them. And even comcast couldn't keep up with their schedule changes with the guide saying it was on and some crappy teen show was on instead.

Oh yeah, that's right. They did mess with Turtles too by moving the show from Saturday mornings to Sunday to make room for that crappy Bread show. Good grief, they mess with everything I like.

But TMNT should still be safe. Popular merchandizing and a big movie should help it sail through all Seasons, maybe more.

After that though, I'll have nothing left. Except more comedic shows like Gravity Falls and Regular Show.
 

AniHawk

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Oh yeah, that's right. They did mess with Turtles too by moving the show from Saturday mornings to Sunday to make room for that crappy Bread show. Good grief, they mess with everything I like.

But TMNT should still be safe. Popular merchandizing and a big movie should help it sail through all Seasons, maybe more.

After that though, I'll have nothing left. Except more comedic shows like Gravity Falls and Regular Show.

gravity falls will only have its next season though.
 

Ponn

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Oh yeah, that's right. They did mess with Turtles too by moving the show from Saturday mornings to Sunday to make room for that crappy Bread show. Good grief, they mess with everything I like.

But TMNT should still be safe. Popular merchandizing and a big movie should help it sail through all Seasons, maybe more.

After that though, I'll have nothing left. Except more comedic shows like Gravity Falls and Regular Show.

Saturday? I meant from Friday night premieres. See, right there is a perfect example of how screwy their scheduling is.
 
What in the flying fuck is Nick doing? What is the rationale for moving this online? What is so important that it can't be shown through the airways?
 

Timeless

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I bailed out of Korra with around 2 episodes left in season 2. Is it worth finishing out the season? Is it worth starting up season 3?

I though Avatar: TLA was incredible, and S1 of Korra was in line with TLA S2 in quality. Season 2 seemed all over the place (even more than 1) but I liked that two-parter in the spirit world.
 
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