Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Obama is not grand emperor sorry to tell you. He has already instructed the justice department to ferguson. Until these cops start indiscriminently killing the protestors then there is not much else to do.

This sort of incident is not isolated for Ferguson and there's a definite pattern of police abuse and ethnic minorities (particularly Black Americans) in a number of spots in the United States. That's what he can start to address.

He doesn't need to be an emperor to do so.
 
I think this goes beyond the race issue, this militaristic response is what you will expect for everything in the coming years.

Has a vibe of hunger games, v for vendetta, 1984 to me.
 

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What bothers me the most is every single post in my Facebook feed is about Robin Williams. This is so much more important.
 

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This sort of incident is not isolated for Ferguson and there's a definite pattern of police abuse and ethnic minorities (particularly Black Americans) in a number of spots in the United States. That's what he can start to address.

He doesn't need to be an emperor to do so.

He's already addressed a lot of that with trayvon.
 
I'm not ignoring that. I'm not understanding why they are pushing protestors away and don't condone the way they are treating protestors. I have never said that it's okay for them to train sniper rifles at protestors or other weapons.

All I have mentioned is the SWAT response. Crowd control gear that swat has will always be there whether or not the protest is peaceful. Crowd control gear is not only tear gas and rubber bullets. It includes firefighting equipment, speakers, lights, cameras, communications gear, and more things that are used by police and can also be used to disperse a crowd.

We get what SWAT is. What we don't get is why this:

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looks like something out of a warzone.

When people complain about the militarization of the police, they refer to pictures such as this. They see an occupying force instead of police.
 
What bothers me the most is every single post in my Facebook feed is about Robin Williams. This is so much more important.

You expect the media to give a shit? They always go for ratings. Local news has only had maybe one 5 minute segment on this. Can't find anything regarding whats happening now on live TV. If it becomes an all out riot you'll see it on live TV.
 

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I'm not ignoring that. I'm not understanding why they are pushing protestors away and don't condone the way they are treating protestors. I have never said that it's okay for them to train sniper rifles at protestors or other weapons.

All I have mentioned is the SWAT response. Crowd control gear that swat has will always be there whether or not the protest is peaceful. Crowd control gear is not only tear gas and rubber bullets. It includes firefighting equipment, speakers, lights, cameras, communications gear, and more things that are used by police and can also be used to disperse a crowd.

You're blind to the abuse and overuse of force happening, and how people are responding to it. You're trying to make a case for abiding by the rules which is why swat is there. They are violating the civil rights of people as we speak. None of this is by the book. So, someone should make the sane call to just have standard police out to allow a peaceful protest.

This isn't needed to happen right now, with such a volatile situation. Its adding fuel on the fire. So if you understand all the bullshit happening, its combined with the fact that they are sporting a military kit for a 100 person protest. Shoving people, aiming at people, and everything else. They are assaulting the protesters who are peacefully protesters.

You're saying "ok well they are up to no good, but still by the rule of the law.. blah blah blah" Sorry but this is what people are getting upset about. And you should understand this, instead of trying to reiterate the procedures of swat when the PD is 100% currently in the wrong. People are reading from the bible right now,

and having weapons trained on them.

Is your purpose in the thread to say "well i don't condone any of this, but this is by the guidelines of swat.. so ill keep posting this to people reacting to the abuse going on and overuse of force."?
 

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His party is, though.

This is an extremely contentious issue. Anything he says will dominate the discussion. He's probably waiting to see how this all plays out.

I assume most politicians are looking at this through the lens of 63% of the popular vote vs. 13% of the popular vote (on the national scale).
 

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You expect the media to give a shit? They always go for ratings. Local news has only had maybe one 5 minute segment on this. Can't find anything regarding whats happening now on live TV. If it becomes an all out riot you'll see it on live TV.
I'm not saying anything about the the tv news. For one thing, I'm in Canada, and secondly, I have a fairly well informed group of friends (for the most part) so it's very surprising I'm not seeing more posts about it.
 
I'm not saying anything about the the tv news. For one thing, I'm in Canada, and secondly, I have a fairly well informed group of friends (for the most part) so it's very surprising I'm not seeing more posts about it.

Honestly. If it wasn't for this GAF thread I wouldn't even know this was going on. Not the protests or the death of Michael. I rarely watch tv and most of the people on my FB posts only family related stuff. It's really easy for stuff to get by you if you aren't looking for it.
 
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Honestly. If it wasn't for this GAF thread I wouldn't even know this was going on. Not the protests or the death of Michael. I rarely watch tv and most of the people on my FB posts only family related stuff. It's really easy for stuff to get by you if you aren't looking for it.

The only thing I've seen is here and a couple PoC activists I follow on Twitter.

Nobody WANTS to think about these things. Nobody WANTS to make the effort to change things. Just concerned about what's in front of them. Complacency of people has been what's changed things and made it worse.
 

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folks praying, having guns aimed at them.

2014.

And hes right,

there are blacks/whites/asians/mexicans all protesting. The media just covers looting and angry black people.
 
It's one thing to prevent shops from getting broken into. It's another to point guns at an assembly of people. You don't need to shoot rioters to stop. Water cannons work just fine.
 
His party is, though.

This is an extremely contentious issue. Anything he says will dominate the discussion. He's probably waiting to see how this all plays out.
You mean the same party that's already propping Hilary Clinton in for 2016?

If Obama coming out to speak on how police brutality against non-threatening (as in, no possession of weapons and no intent to attack) black Americans and instances like George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martian is somehow a detriment to his party, that says a lot more about the supporters of that party than it does about him.

Progressive liberals at large already put the aforementioned issues on the back-burner, it's time they woke up and realized they can afford to give equal support and caring for all social inequalities in this country.

folks praying, having guns aimed at them.

2014.

And hes right,

there are blacks/whites/asians/mexicans all protesting. The media just covers looting and angry black people.
It's classic Divide-And-Conquer.

Lord forbid masses of easily impressionable people (who have been numbed over years of dumbed-down tv and media) see optimistic imagery in light of this of people of all ethnicities together for a common cause, the same people they'd rather going at each other's necks to extort more news stories and sensationalistic trends of conflict from.

Because they understand if that did happen and everyone banded together, decades of nihilistic, negative techniques of population control would be destroyed through united change.
 
To me that doesn't look to bad, in saying that i grew up in central Belfast during the 80's and 90's on a protestant/catholic divide area.

It is kinda crazy the type of police they have out for what seems to be very peaceful protesting, total overkill.

It's a catch 22. They are there to "prevent" a riot from breaking out like what happened two days ago but their presence is the most menacing thing there that would probably lead to one. I hope they stay patient and let the people protest peacefully as long as they want. they have to play this smart. Forcing them off the streets would just cause panic and unrest.

So the police are going to fuck them up if they are still singing church songs after dark, aren't they?

I really hope not. Earlier they were trying to get people to disperse and things got kinda bad. Seemed like someone gave the order to stand down and it's been peaceful since then. They need to let them protest.
 
You mean the same party that's already propping Hilary Clinton in for 2016?

If Obama coming out to speak on how police brutality against non-threatening (as in, no possession of weapons and no intent to attack) black Americans and instances like George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martian is somehow a detriment to his party, that says a lot more about the supporters of that party than it does about him.

Progressive liberals at large already put the aforementioned issues on the back-burner, it's time they woke up and realized they can afford to give equal support and caring for all social inequalities in this country.

Yup, it says a lot about the party and its members that they're unwilling or afraid to speak out on such an obvious human and civil rights issue.
 
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The cops in Ferguson are absolutely stupid. Arresting journalists with huge outlets is a great way to guarantee you get slammed nationwide.
 

Xando

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Wow just saw that on the german night news.
We often have riots here in hamburg with lots of riot police and water canons but never with assault rifles ( not sure if they have pistols ) seems like the police officers are bracing for a civil war.

Why is the American police so militarized?
 
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