CaptainABAB
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Anybody playing this on 360 or ps3? Or is everyone on xb1 and ps4?
How do the 360/ps3 versions compare?
How do the 360/ps3 versions compare?
Destiny - Review Thread
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It's Bungie's own fault that people are disappointed with what's on offer. They definitely oversold the game. The things I'm hearing about the story are especially baffling, considering the things Bungie said it would be. To the people saying ''well, what did you expect?". I dunno, maybe something approaching the things Bungie's COO promised?
He must have known the story and the characters weren't all that. I mean, there are very few characters to begin with. How can he say this crazy ambitious things then? I don't think he's that delusional, just incredibly dishonest. I guess they still have a decade to develop the universe, but from what I'm reading it's too poor to even be called a false start.
I guess I'll have to judge for myself when I get the game tomorrow.
He must have known the story and the characters weren't all that. I mean, there are very few characters to begin with. How can he say this crazy ambitious things then? I don't think he's that delusional, just incredibly dishonest. I guess they still have a decade to develop the universe, but from what I'm reading it's too poor to even be called a false start.
I guess I'll have to judge for myself when I get the game tomorrow.
As in one of the worst games ever? Very flawed, maybe. But one of the worst games ever? Nah.
dragonelite
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Wut, going toward that is pretty much game reviews the last 5 years or so.
Because of all the press and industry relationships going on and marketing funding.
I have to agree. The sound design is fantastic.
Wind's Howling
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I am glad I do not follow this path. I have played games who were averagely rated at 70-80% and enjoyed them more than a lot of other 90-100% rated games.
Absolutely. It enhances the atmosphere even more.
What?
A 6/10 is considered passed here in schools, I can get a grade in any study with only 6/10s on my diploma.
In gaming, even an 8/10 is considered mediocre nowadays
dragonelite
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Me too, i like to snoop around community section of the forum and see which games keep up getting bumped.
Kinda how i discovered Dragon dogmas.
temesgen77
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I like the game so far, only let down really would be that the first few missions I already played to death in the beta.
IMO DLC could help me to care about the character and the story a bit more.
Probably the biggest gripe would be the city, it isn't set up very efficiently. In some ways it reminds of the couple times I visited Playstation Home, its been years but it has that same vibe for me.
The actual gameplay is very good, enemies have decent AI and lots of replay due to the way they react. If the DLC is primarily maps I'm not very interested but if we get some episodic content that helps flush the player and story out I'm in.
IMO DLC could help me to care about the character and the story a bit more.
Probably the biggest gripe would be the city, it isn't set up very efficiently. In some ways it reminds of the couple times I visited Playstation Home, its been years but it has that same vibe for me.
The actual gameplay is very good, enemies have decent AI and lots of replay due to the way they react. If the DLC is primarily maps I'm not very interested but if we get some episodic content that helps flush the player and story out I'm in.
I can already see the meltdowns if Destiny gets a lower average than BL2.
I may have exagaerated. It plays well and fighting the kabal is kind of awesome, but damn its still such a let down.
The bungie gunplay that made halo so good is the only reason i am still playing it.
GhostTrick
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I think the problem isn't the score itself, but more of a hype/budget/score relation.
We're talking here about a 500 millions dollars franchise.
With 6 or 7, you didn't failed your exam. But if you studied everyday 8 hours for the whole year then only get a 6 or 7... you can see the difference here.
The bigger the budget is, the more you could expect from quality, since there's a lot more time for polishing, adding content and such.
Of course, it doesn't mean that big budget will make quality games and small budgets will have smaller budgets. But it's normal for people to expect for the biggest budget use in the video game industry for a franchise to be used to blow us away.
At least, that's what it meant years ago. When Shenmue was using a high budget, it was to add elements that would change our view on some aspects of games.
When Final Fantasy VII was using a high budget, it was to allow for some epic soundtracks or cinematics.
Big budget games meant a milestone in the industry, something that people would remember for years because of what they brought.
It's not about saying "Meh, only 8, this game sucks !" because that would be wrong. It's more of "Damn... they used that much of money to be lost in the sea of good games". It's not bad of course, but there's so much good games already... which used a lot lower budget.
Captain Tuttle
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Haha DAMN
I'm liking it so far, was never too terribly hyped up for it, I've only had time to get to level 3 though.
Exactly what I think.
gamerforever
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Reviews don't mean so much anymore to me and there are so many average games out there.
The problem is that we now have a huge number of games that are just average and hardly any of them are polished.
Just play what you think you will enjoy, there's not enough time to play them all!
The problem is that we now have a huge number of games that are just average and hardly any of them are polished.
Just play what you think you will enjoy, there's not enough time to play them all!
Enemy types and models doesn't equal enemy AI. AI is how everything but the player behaves.
Reviews are fair. I'm having a blast with it, but I think a lot of it is to do with a perfect release time. I don't think I would have bothered if we were into the October silly release season as there will be so many good games out by then. Early September was perfect for Destiny.
Orthogonal
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I wonder if the game being cross-gen impacted the design in any way and hold back some of the idea's and potential for this game. Maps could certainly be bigger with more memory available, but it seems like cross-gen did no favors to the quality of the gameplay.
ChosenPredator
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watch out for shadow of mordor (that game is flipping FUN)
Wind's Howling
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Are you, as a gamer, really thinking of a game's budget when you are playing it?
Halo 3 came out in 2007, tons of variety when it comes to combat confrontations and design, vehicular combat, huge battle areas, a lot of enemies to fight at once. You fight two scarabs at once twice, while banshees and wraiths are slinging plasma at you.
Based on what you actually do in Destiny, last gen consoles affected very little. Some of the best and most unique games were developed last gen, overly simple design can't be pinned on the game being cross gen.
Why do you use one of the worst excuses for a good modern shooter as your comparison?
Always-honest
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The Ai isn't that good? That's weird.. Halo had really good Ai imo (well, enemy ai that is.. not counting friendly ai)
It's on my radar purely because of Monolith.
The AI is quite good.
A lot of people say the AI is good, some people say its bad. Seems inconsistent at worst and really competent at best.
Windom Earle
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lol @ the Dark Souls talk in a Destiny thread.
regenhuber88
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Can confirm that, each enemy has their own weapon intervalls and movement.
Some cloak, some snipe and some melee you.
The enemies are pretty much the best thing about Destiny so far for me, really feels like a nice accomplishment to finally kill a Lv9 Captain.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Strange, considering the enemy types and combat reflect Halo almost to a T. So far every enemy I've come across I've been able to note what Halo enemy it plays like.
Didnt realize before this post, but Halo 3 and Reach both have had bigger battles and more interesting encounters than Destiny thus far. Granted, I'm still on Earth/Moon.
One thing I am loving is Marty's score, wonder what Destiny 2's soundtrack will be like.
I almost want to say some were directly copied pasted from Halo though.
Camp Freddie
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Review scores have always been fucked when on a 10-point scale.
This is not a recent phenomenon.
Pick up some ancient copies of ZX Spectrum or C64 magazines and you'll see the same thing.
The Scores start at 6 or 60%, which means awful (it used to generally be used for movie tie-ins and budget games in the 8-bit era).
Also, I don't know where you people study, but at UK universities 70% is first class honours (i.e. the top grade). 40% is a pass with 3rd class honours. A 2:2 and 2:1 are 50% and 60%, respectively.
Getting 90% in an exam makes you a genius or (more likely) means that the tutor fucked up his exam questions by making them too easy. In humanities subjects, a 90% is practically impossible.
This is not a recent phenomenon.
Pick up some ancient copies of ZX Spectrum or C64 magazines and you'll see the same thing.
The Scores start at 6 or 60%, which means awful (it used to generally be used for movie tie-ins and budget games in the 8-bit era).
Also, I don't know where you people study, but at UK universities 70% is first class honours (i.e. the top grade). 40% is a pass with 3rd class honours. A 2:2 and 2:1 are 50% and 60%, respectively.
Getting 90% in an exam makes you a genius or (more likely) means that the tutor fucked up his exam questions by making them too easy. In humanities subjects, a 90% is practically impossible.
while i agree with you to a certain degree (mostly, that the whole scale of scoring is being underused), you should also consider that while <8 doesn't mean "bad game" it can already mean "not worth my time" for people who have very limited time allocated for gaming due to work or family duties.
if you only have 10hours a week for gaming, only going for 8.5+ games is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, in most cases.
Destiny is one of those games that i wouldn't recommend to anyone who doesn't want to at least invest 30-40 hours into it (the campaign just doesn't really deliver, most fun comes from "farming" / progress and the crucible. I have no issues whatsoever if this is reflected in < 8 review scores.
Blackthorn
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...Hold on, where has this comparing review scores to academic grading thing come from? This isn't the first thread I've seen it in.
They're two entirely different scales for measuring two entirely different things.
They're two entirely different scales for measuring two entirely different things.
GhostTrick
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I'm not, I'm just explaining you the reasonning behind. But as a gamer, I'm really thinking of what this game brings that I never seen elsewhere.
Think about it, what if you were told "Wow ! This game is the biggest game ever made ! It's so impressive !".
Publishers don't throw numbers for fun. It's to build hype, to send a message. As a gamer, you're going to react to that message. When you'll be playing, you'll sure have a good time, but you also expect that promised to be fulfilled.
Also, taking this sentence alone just ruin the context. I also said a lot of things before that.
I can't think of any game that isn't vastly improved by playing with friends.
It's easy to ignore all Destiny's flaws with a friend or two.. but the flaws are still there
M.W.
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GAF logic
AI stands for Amount of Invaders right?
Not 64 though?
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
"It only got a 1.5 but if that was a u-value for a wall that would be pretty good so I dunno."
zackmorris
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Well if the game is out there can't really be an embargo. You can't prevent someone from reviewing a product that they could have went out and bought in a store with their own money.
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