Neill Blomkamp officially working on new Alien film

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jelly

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He gets to make a Halo movie after all.

So, what will it be, evil corp agenda, marines, colony, mercs, engineers. Nothing new but I'll take a good film.
 

Dennis

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Who is that gaffer standing with Sigourney and she looks pretty weird with that hair color.
 

Amir0x

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I'm not really sure Neil Blomkamp would make a good Alien film. He's not a bad director, but the writing associated with the films he works on tends to be pretty bad. Will he be co-writing this Alien film? 'Cause he keeps talking about the ideas he has for the film and the art he had made up for it, and I'm just not sure he makes good concepts.
 

UrbanRats

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[slow piano music]

*shaky cam footage of xenomorph digging around in South African trash like a dog before running off*

we call them monsters

[quick shots of weyland yutani buildings and panicking small xenomorph in tiny cage as protagonist looks on with concerned face]

who are we to judge

[man with megaphone shouting about how all the Satan monsters must die because Jesus said so]

who gave us dominion over this planet and said they weren't allowed

[rich executive watching xenomorphs being experimented on]


[single piano note] THE ALIENS

And then Sharlto Copley to try his hand at a Xenomorph accent.
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But really though, His movies are usually shitty because of the script, so i can see this working.. then again, the same was true of Prometheus, for the most part.
 

Pooya

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Fox needs to take a good look at the franchise and do the right thing...
nothing after Aliens happened, right? really can't think of anything better they can do for it to be not so hilariously bad.
 

Busty

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So..., unsurprisingly the Variety article suggests that the original
(shitty Aliens fanfic sequel that borders on slash fiction with that stupid fucking 'Ripley alien helmet thing')
'concept' that was splashed across Instagram won't be the Alien project in question.

Instead it feels like Fox have no idea what to do with the Alien franchise at this point and since Blomkamp seems pretty enthusiastic why not just let him spend two years developing an idea that everyone at the studio will hate and quietly bury.
 

Sub_Level

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Alien 5 eh?

For all the problems Alien 3 and Resurrection have, you can't say they aren't unique in their own way. The soundtracks in those films are things of beauty and some of the designs are pretty memorable. Not just monsters, but sets and characters.

Alien 5, at the very least, will be a film worth watching.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Eeehhhheeehhhhh. I don't know how to feel. In theory Blomkamp is a win; his films are always aesthetically stimulating, he's a fine director, and works with artists who are able to capture a grungy, industrial, retro-scifi that is well suited to Alien.

On the other hand his writing and the writers he works with are a mixed bag, Elysium in particular handling its themes with little subtlety and depth. Alien, my favourite within the franchise, manages to perfectly capture nuanced believability in the script and performances, much moreso than anything in Blomkamp's filmography.

I'm also concerned with his pitch/treatment, which seemed obnoxiously silly, within a franchise where there just might not be reasonable room to grow. There doesn't need to be more Alien, even if there are directors/artists out there with the capacity to capture the look and feel of the series.

Will wait and see.
 
Return of Biehn would mean that Alien³ is officially non-canon, which would mean that Newt is fully grown and could take over the franchise.

But...Prometheus 2? How will Ridley Scoot's stuff fix into this?
 

Toxi

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Honestly I would be far more interested in an Alien film without W-Y at all. The entire corrupt corporation running a dodgy mission/colony/whatever has been done to death. Fincher had the right idea with Alien3, but it was the execution and the production which fell short.
If that's the case, maybe we shouldn't have another Alien movie. The corrupt authority fucking over the hapless little guy and treating human beings like disposable commodities is one of the core aspects of Alien and Aliens. Dropping that theme entirely seems like the wrong way to go with a good sequel.

Besides, it's not like Aliens really needed a sequel. I don't think Fincher had the right idea with Alien3 because there's no reason for Alien3 to even be a sequel. Should have just been an original movie.
 

Dead Man

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Last 3 Alien films were terrible, not looking forward to this at all. If this had been announced pre Prometheus I might be on board.
 

DedValve

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I hope they tie Isolation canon into it and we get to see Amanda Ripley
since I doubt there will be an Isolation 2 ;_;
 
Honestly I would be far more interested in an Alien film without W-Y at all. The entire corrupt corporation running a dodgy mission/colony/whatever has been done to death. Fincher had the right idea with Alien3, but it was the execution and the production which fell short.
How did Fincher had the right idea with Alien3? He was like a bull in a china shop. He destroyed everything.
 

Dennis

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How did Fincher had the right idea with Alien3? He was like a bull in a china shop. He destroyed everything.

Yeah pretty much.

Killing Hicks and Newt was completely unnecessary. The movie didn't have to feature them but that was just pissing on the fans for the sake of pissing on the fans.
 

Pooya

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How did Fincher had the right idea with Alien3? He was like a bull in a china shop. He destroyed everything.

as a new setting it was fine (yeah not talking about the marketing here...) but yeah how it happens and what is done to characters are what destroys everything, it's terrible but not because it's set in a prison.
 
There's no question that the production design and effects for this Alien film (if it does get made, not really certain until Fox confirms it!) will be really, really cool. I think the main concern would be how simplistic the sociopolitical commentary in the story would be. Blomkamp's weakness thus far is that he seems very one-note in that aspect. His films all showcase classism and corporate/elite exploitation of the poor, but often the issues are explored in a very naive black and white way which just feels childish. I can totally see him applying this same narrative technique to the Alien universe, and while it would fit, it would also be... boring.

In what universe is the Alien franchise famous and acclaimed due to it's incisive, biting sociopolitical satire? It's a scifi action/horror series about big mean killer aliens trying to kill people. Any kind of progressive/innate subtext in these films that warrants or receives any kind of discussion is usually about the (pretty overt) sexual undertones and the reversal of stereotypical gender roles in storytelling (Alien as a metaphor for sexual assault, Ridley's power over the aggressor yadda yadda). This isn't Robocop we're talking about, Alien has never been famous or acclaimed for what you're complaining about.

Also, virtually all socioeconomic satire/commentary/underlying themes in any work of entertainment with an audience as wide as Alien is pretty simple and heavy handed (this is Hollywood). Even the most critically acclaimed works of American satire (at least as far as movies/TV go) are usually extremely simple and easy to understand/read into, you'd have to either not be from America or be a toddler in diapers to not understand the " deep sociopolitical commentary" of something like the Simpsons (Krusty the Clown? Yea, takes a real scholar to know what facet of American culture they're talking about in this situation!) or the Colbert Report (What kind of political pundit could he POSSIBLY be portraying???) This constant complaint of simpleness with regards to political undertones that gets lobed so relentlessly against a dude who's made a total of two films strikes me as really desperate. Calling Blomkamp's movies' commentary "naive" is also about as misguided as you can get as far as criticism goes. There's nothing really "subtle" or "Gray as opposed to childish Black and White" as far as the topics of Apartheid and worldwide wealth inequality go, the richest 85 people are worth more than the poorest 3.5 billion on this Earth, and I'd certainly hope you (or anyone else for that matter) aren't actually trying to play Devil's advocate for Apatheid and it's effect on South Africa/the whole world, there's no shades of gray with regards to either situation. Blomkamp is right on the money in his depictions, even if they can be a bit hamfisted (and again, most satire/political commentary in film/TV, even highly acclaimed examples, are quite often the same way)
 

Toxi

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Alien 3 feels like a completely different science fiction movie that got squished together with Alien for some reason.
 
Return of Biehn would mean that Alien³ is officially non-canon, which would mean that Newt is fully grown and could take over the franchise.

But...Prometheus 2? How will Ridley Scoot's stuff fix into this?

Despite being a prequel-ish, Prometheus has its own mythology.
I think Ridley Scott said that Prometheus 2 will not feature any kind of Xenomorph.
 
Like what?

Watch the making of Alien 3 documentary. The studio was so far off the rails and the thing was burning money. You almost got a sleeping beauty story with a wooden planet and an Alien in there. It took David's strength of will and innate talent to keep it together and on track without a script.

They should have shut it down and simply waited for a few years. If you have read all of the scripts of the era, from William Gibson, the Renny Harlin story, and the David Twohy one, they were all terrible.

Alien 3 remains a good movie in its own right especially in the workprint. Just not the sequel anyone wanted.
 

duckroll

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How did Fincher had the right idea with Alien3? He was like a bull in a china shop. He destroyed everything.

He had the right idea because he was challenging where the franchise could go and what sort of stories you can potentially tell in this universe. Actually engaging with the possibilities a universe has, and going in directions which are unexpected and sometimes unwelcome, is far more interesting than pandering to a safe and expected formula established by films so well made that they can never really be surpassed.

I don't think it was necessary to kill Hicks and Newt. But he didn't do it out of spite or anything. He did it because he wanted to explore such a painful possibility. The rest of the setting in the film was also interesting and not what one would expect as a sequel to Alien and Aliens. Like I said, in the end, the execution failed and it wasn't a particularly good movie, but the approach taken in making it was far more interesting than a me-too Alien sequel.
 

x-Lundz-x

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A time line where Alien 3 and Resurrection never happen would automatically make this a good aliens movie in my books, which may very well be the case if those concept art pieces are anything to go by.

This is the only way they could pull it off. I dont even think he needs to explain it, like its an alternate dimension or whatever. Don't even touch on trying to explain anything. They just need to go on like alien 3 and alien resurrection never happened in the first place.
 

EatChildren

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He had the right idea because he was challenging where the franchise could go and what sort of stories you can potentially tell in this universe. Actually engaging with the possibilities a universe has, and going in directions which are unexpected and sometimes unwelcome, is far more interesting than pandering to a safe and expected formula established by films so well made that they can never really be surpassed.

I don't think it was necessary to kill Hicks and Newt. But he didn't do it out of spite or anything. He did it because he wanted to explore such a painful possibility. The rest of the setting in the film was also interesting and not what one would expect as a sequel to Alien and Aliens. Like I said, in the end, the execution failed and it wasn't a particularly good movie, but the approach taken in making it was far more interesting than a me-too Alien sequel.

+1

Though I think the extended cut is a pretty solid movie.
 

Dennis

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He had the right idea because he was challenging where the franchise could go and what sort of stories you can potentially tell in this universe. Actually engaging with the possibilities a universe has, and going in directions which are unexpected and sometimes unwelcome, is far more interesting than pandering to a safe and expected formula established by films so well made that they can never really be surpassed.

I don't think it was necessary to kill Hicks and Newt. But he didn't do it out of spite or anything. He did it because he wanted to explore such a painful possibility. The rest of the setting in the film was also interesting and not what one would expect as a sequel to Alien and Aliens. Like I said, in the end, the execution failed and it wasn't a particularly good movie, but the approach taken in making it was far more interesting than a me-too Alien sequel.

+1

Though I think the extended cut is a pretty solid movie.

Well, Fincher failed.

I am willing to believe he meant well but we still ended up with Alien and Aliens being the only two great movies in the franchise.
 
Well, it can't get any worse than Resurrection, but I wouldn't mind for the series to leave Ripley behind since her story is done.

Judging from the concept art. However, that doesn't seem to be happening.
 

Akahige

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He had the right idea because he was challenging where the franchise could go and what sort of stories you can potentially tell in this universe. Actually engaging with the possibilities a universe has, and going in directions which are unexpected and sometimes unwelcome, is far more interesting than pandering to a safe and expected formula established by films so well made that they can never really be surpassed.

I don't think it was necessary to kill Hicks and Newt. But he didn't do it out of spite or anything. He did it because he wanted to explore such a painful possibility. The rest of the setting in the film was also interesting and not what one would expect as a sequel to Alien and Aliens. Like I said, in the end, the execution failed and it wasn't a particularly good movie, but the approach taken in making it was far more interesting than a me-too Alien sequel.
Weren't the deaths of Hicks and Newt in drafts long before Fincher came aboard, I know it was in the Vincent Ward draft.
 
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