If by "brilliant" you mean "sometimes 60fps", then yeah, it's totally brilliant.
Halo: The Master Chief Collection is STILL broken after 100 days
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Aren't people having problems with Co-Op? Singleplayer seems to be okay for people, but co-op is riddled with crashes and such.
AnonomissX
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I saw that with the release of the MCC, it would get us 360 holdouts to finally purchase an xbone. I was going to lose what Halo players were left on multiple titles to a whole other system. Well, it worked. I bought the next gen console, and after consideration, purchased a digital download. 2 days before the midnight launch, my brother helped me get my room re-organized and we set up the new 39 inch HDTV and the xbox one in my room (had been in the living room prior to this). I then rewarded him with my monitor, speakers and xbox 360, now at his apartment 15 miles away.
I GAVE UP access to Halo 3, Reach and 4, on a perfectly working system...
PAID PREMIUM PRICES AGAIN thinking I was purchasing the games on a system that worked even better!
So I have less for more! I can sorta play multiplayer but can't hear other players or can't see who is talking...the game just dumps you out after the game, no talking in the after game lobby. Can't say "good game" anymore.
Oh, can't see if we are in a game with our friends, it lags like a 1985 fly wheel typewriter to show people in your session, if friends are online playing the game, if they have joined your game or what team they are on. The game will play a few times with everyone connected if you are lucky, but INEVITABLY, 100% EVERY FUCKING TIME, it will either break everyone apart from the game session host, lock some into matchmaking and drag them into some other game, drop the ability to hear each other or flat out force someone to reboot their game or xbox.
Oh, and if you are trying to get people together for a custom game, and need 4-6 players, you will be sitting there with your thumb up your ass in the lobby waiting for everyone to get to your session before starting the game. Or, sit again with your thumb up your ass because you joined their xbox party, but they already started the game while you had to wait for an invite - because the fucking game LAGS AT SHOWING FRIENDS WHO ARE PLAYING so you can't just join them! WHY?
BECAUSE! You can't join a custom game that already started! I could do this on the original xbox from Halo 2 forward-either this is broken, or it's missing, seems 343 was too rushed to include this important standard feature in the collection on the >snerk< next gen console!
Oh, why not just go play matchmaking if customs aren't working out for you? Why not go play customs with friends if matchmaking is too slow, or games are just ending abruptly? Why can't you just make new friends to play customs with if all your friends have moved on to Destiny, Netflix or back to their 360?
I guess I'll work on some Halo 3 forge alone, and set up a fun CTF game or that Grifball court I was thinking about-oh, wait! Not only did they leave out the ability to set custom game objectives in the Halo 3 forge, who gives a fuck because you have no browser for your file share! You have to be on a friend list who is CURRENTLY playing or in the main screen, hit x and choose them to finally view their fileshare-it's like the 80's and I came to your house with a mixtape for your Walkman...
And I willnever be the best player, I'm not crying over ranks. But they promise and promise and promise soon...and peiple get a high rank, lose it for some glitch...and now they get in wildly uneven matchmade games which is not a lot of fun for thse getting stomped and ratherboring for those doing the stomping.
When it works, it shines, but if I only wanted to play alone or just the campaigns, I could have kept my xbox 360, got my original xbox and copy of CE back from my cousin's daughter (she outgrew it), dug out my special edition Halo 2 disc, and went to town. I could even have dusted off my laptop and ethernet cables and played via Xboxconnect.com for a ton cheaper.
Hopping into matchmaking quickly by yourself is very nice, but a select, unfulfilling way to play when I were expecting so many other features that I used on a regular basis on the original versions.
I GAVE UP access to Halo 3, Reach and 4, on a perfectly working system...
PAID PREMIUM PRICES AGAIN thinking I was purchasing the games on a system that worked even better!
So I have less for more! I can sorta play multiplayer but can't hear other players or can't see who is talking...the game just dumps you out after the game, no talking in the after game lobby. Can't say "good game" anymore.
Oh, can't see if we are in a game with our friends, it lags like a 1985 fly wheel typewriter to show people in your session, if friends are online playing the game, if they have joined your game or what team they are on. The game will play a few times with everyone connected if you are lucky, but INEVITABLY, 100% EVERY FUCKING TIME, it will either break everyone apart from the game session host, lock some into matchmaking and drag them into some other game, drop the ability to hear each other or flat out force someone to reboot their game or xbox.
Oh, and if you are trying to get people together for a custom game, and need 4-6 players, you will be sitting there with your thumb up your ass in the lobby waiting for everyone to get to your session before starting the game. Or, sit again with your thumb up your ass because you joined their xbox party, but they already started the game while you had to wait for an invite - because the fucking game LAGS AT SHOWING FRIENDS WHO ARE PLAYING so you can't just join them! WHY?
BECAUSE! You can't join a custom game that already started! I could do this on the original xbox from Halo 2 forward-either this is broken, or it's missing, seems 343 was too rushed to include this important standard feature in the collection on the >snerk< next gen console!
Oh, why not just go play matchmaking if customs aren't working out for you? Why not go play customs with friends if matchmaking is too slow, or games are just ending abruptly? Why can't you just make new friends to play customs with if all your friends have moved on to Destiny, Netflix or back to their 360?
I guess I'll work on some Halo 3 forge alone, and set up a fun CTF game or that Grifball court I was thinking about-oh, wait! Not only did they leave out the ability to set custom game objectives in the Halo 3 forge, who gives a fuck because you have no browser for your file share! You have to be on a friend list who is CURRENTLY playing or in the main screen, hit x and choose them to finally view their fileshare-it's like the 80's and I came to your house with a mixtape for your Walkman...
And I willnever be the best player, I'm not crying over ranks. But they promise and promise and promise soon...and peiple get a high rank, lose it for some glitch...and now they get in wildly uneven matchmade games which is not a lot of fun for thse getting stomped and ratherboring for those doing the stomping.
When it works, it shines, but if I only wanted to play alone or just the campaigns, I could have kept my xbox 360, got my original xbox and copy of CE back from my cousin's daughter (she outgrew it), dug out my special edition Halo 2 disc, and went to town. I could even have dusted off my laptop and ethernet cables and played via Xboxconnect.com for a ton cheaper.
Hopping into matchmaking quickly by yourself is very nice, but a select, unfulfilling way to play when I were expecting so many other features that I used on a regular basis on the original versions.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Didn't see the point of a new thread for this since the title for the article is so close to this thread's, but Kotaku has this up today:
"Halo: Master Chief Collection Has Been Broken For 100+ Days Now"
http://kotaku.com/we-all-know-that-halo-master-chief-collection-is-a-dis-1687476926
Short but to the point. I'd like to think 343i gives a damn about actually fixing this trainwreck of a release to a playable state. As someone in the comments points out, they're probably hoping to weather the storm till Halo 5 releases to shut everybody up. I really don't understand management that thinks it's okay to practice this kind of anti-consumer garbage against such a loyal install base.
"Halo: Master Chief Collection Has Been Broken For 100+ Days Now"
http://kotaku.com/we-all-know-that-halo-master-chief-collection-is-a-dis-1687476926
Short but to the point. I'd like to think 343i gives a damn about actually fixing this trainwreck of a release to a playable state. As someone in the comments points out, they're probably hoping to weather the storm till Halo 5 releases to shut everybody up. I really don't understand management that thinks it's okay to practice this kind of anti-consumer garbage against such a loyal install base.
KeyboardThug
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I think its co-op on a local box that dips below 60fps. I played coop with two other friends though 3 and 4 and had no problems. Also played halo 1 with one other played over xbox live and it did crash once.
The Lamonster
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Whats with online co-op lag in Halo CE? It was horrible on the 360 version of Halo Anniversary. I remember people saying it was still bad in the XB1 version?
ZehDon
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Might need to fact check, friend.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Oh yeah my bad, will edit accordingly.
bananafactory
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Did Kotaku make an article about this thread?
Lol
Lol
Welfare
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Did Kotaku make an article about this thread?
Lol
They made an article about the Beyond article.
PerfectDRUG88
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I don't wanna be "that guy", but I haven't had many problems of late. Single player is just fine, I'm running through levels to beat par times, which is way funnier than it sounds. And multiplayer can take alittle but to get into a match, but nothing to crazy 1-2 minutes tops. But full disclosure I'm gunning it solo campaign and multi, so there's that. It seems parties are what's killing this game
I haven't done online co-op, but I can't imagine it being any better than the 360 versions. It's lock-step networking. It's how you have so many entities matched up in two or more sessions at the same time, which unfortunately in many cases, just means a rough experience.
I'm at the same point, and that's a change from the earlier days. I don't play in parties though, and supposedly that's been a source of problems for some.
Sikamikanico
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Quoting for quality. It's Halo's biggest fans that are losing out more than anyone else right now. Makes me sad.
reynal1287
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That's funny.
Foolishfellow
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The post by AnonomissX is 100% accurate, and also why this game will never be "fixed."
I truly believe that legal action against 343i/Microsoft is warranted for the debacle that is this game.
I truly believe that legal action against 343i/Microsoft is warranted for the debacle that is this game.
Interficium
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Did Kotaku make an article about this thread?
Lol
GAF --> Schreier --> GAF
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kittens
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Yeah, I wish there were more press around this mess. Kudos to Moa for the write up.
K
kittens
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Giving a game with major broken components an 85 is absurd.
BobTheFork
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Most reviewer gave them the benefit of the doubt that it would work soon after the review.... I've been against changing review scores but maybe there is a point to it.
The 360 version was pure player-input lockstep; everything, even looking around with an analog stick, was delayed according to network latency.
The XB1 version tried to make looking a little more "client side"-ish, but all that's really happening is that you can rotate the camera instantaneously; your actual gameplay-logic rotation is still delayed, just like the 360 version. In some ways it feels more responsive, but it's extremely awkward to gauge when/where to shoot, because your shots are firing from a gun that's pointing from your current location but in your half-a-second-ago reticle angle.
That's awful. Glad I haven't tried it again with TMCC.
Whipped Spartan
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Hasn't been broken for months IMO. It's just not good and no one playing it. They already lost the players. Face it no one is playing it.
Halo MCC is so fundamentally broken that's it damn near impossible for this game to be every properly fixed. Lets say they manage to fix the entire UI and matchmaking thing, which will obviously a damned miracle. There are so many other bugs and issues plaguing the MCC it's insane. Halo 1 has this weird reverse auto aim, actually pushing your reticule away from the enemy at times. Halo 2 has the worst hit detection the game has ever seen, using the sniper is just hopeless. Halo 3 has its directional audio flipped and apparently can't have custom game modes in matchmaking.
These issues go so deep in each game that I can't imagine it'll be easy to fix. Even if a mircale occurs and they will ever fix the UI and matchmaking and just can't imagine that Microsoft will be willing to set aside money to fix all the other issues that this game has.
It's such a damn shame. I'm still enjoying the game a lot, but man did they screw up. The population has bled dry. The GOAT has been reduced to some joke. Man... What could've been.
These issues go so deep in each game that I can't imagine it'll be easy to fix. Even if a mircale occurs and they will ever fix the UI and matchmaking and just can't imagine that Microsoft will be willing to set aside money to fix all the other issues that this game has.
It's such a damn shame. I'm still enjoying the game a lot, but man did they screw up. The population has bled dry. The GOAT has been reduced to some joke. Man... What could've been.
EventHorizon
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I criticiced the decision to give 343 the benefit of the doubt at the time and I feel vindicated now. Why write a review that you know is pure fiction? And I never understood what the problem was with updating reviews. At least now it seems that reviewers are finally coming around to the novel idea of reviewing what they played and not reviewing what they hoped to play.
AnonomissX
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Well, except for the typos from posting on my Galaxy Tab at 2 in the morning, LOL. It was cathartic, and a response to all those, oh so TWEE, "just what's so broken" bullshit questions on this and other message boards.
Im hoping it just gets fixed, and no one has to sue.
It's three good games and Halo 4 remastered in one package. In concept, it's a great value and would've easily been the best remaster in a year full of them. In execution, it's absolute shit. So I'd say it is broken. If it wasn't broken, or if it wasn't launched broken, people would be playing it.
Latvian Hitman
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Not really a matter of opinion. Halo is a team-based arena shooter. Go grab 3-6 friends, use the active roster to party up, and go into matchmaking together. Spend an evening trying to do this. Then come back here and tell us that the game isn't broken.
Actually if you're talking about MCC they didn't do much.
Their logo sure shows up pretty fucking big when you launch the game.
Not to mention that's a pretty damn bad excuse. If I hire a contractor to build a house for me and the electrical and plumbing don't work when I move-in, is it a good excuse for the contractor to just say well not my fault, the sub contractors messed up? No, of course not.
MAX PAYMENT
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As bad as halo is, pretty much all the remakes out right now kind of suck.
I think the only remake I've played that I had no problems with was wind waker hd.
I think the only remake I've played that I had no problems with was wind waker hd.
I'm not giving them a way out. I'm just saying from all the studios that were involved and what each one did. I'm left wondering what 343 actually did.
This would be like Nintendo releasing a new Mario game that is broken after 100 days. Something you would never think a company would let happen. Yet MS did, and that makes the icing on the cake to 2014 being the crappiest AAA year ever. I hope this isn't the way this gen plays out because kids just go back to their phones and tablets. They are used to instant gratification and yet consoles this gen, this past year, are all a big ass waiting game of chance if you can actually play a game.
Andrew Ryan
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For $36 (the XBL sale price), the game is more then worth it for the SP campaigns alone
Very curious about the mega patch "coming soon"
Very curious about the mega patch "coming soon"
GTAV and TLOU?
Put their stamp on a product that they knew was not functional on any acceptable level.
You realize that the development director of the Halo franchise at 343i came into this thread and acknowledged that it's got serious issues, right?
It's ok because the game-buying public sends the message that it's ok by continuing to fork over their money. For all the angst in this thread and others like it, I can all but guarantee that a minimum of 80% of the people decrying the broken state of MCC will be in the Halo 5 anticipation thread, counting down the hours until their pre-loaded digital copy of the game unlocks. At the end of the day, no one will have learned anything. We get the games we deserve.
When have I ever done this?
Narpas Sword0
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MCC campaigns are definitely not ok. If you went through them without a problem you have some good luck and low standards.
Andrew Ryan
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Are the campaigns being patched also? There have been countless bugs and frame rate issues that many have complained about
Yes, Campaign bugs are being addressed in tandem. As are certain perf and controller issues and more.
The Antitype
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I'm glad I bought it pretty much entirely for the co-op campaigns. A few bad experiences performance wise aside (and it really has been like 2 bad experiences out of 25+), I've been happy with the purchase.
If I had bought it to try and relive old-school Halo MP though....yikes. I would be piiiiiiissssssed.
If I had bought it to try and relive old-school Halo MP though....yikes. I would be piiiiiiissssssed.
Andrew Ryan
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That's good to know as I bought this game primarily for the SP, really hope it gets all the campaigns at the advertised locked 60FPS
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