ManUnkindH
Member
Too late Bungie, I just deleted your game.
Bungie apologizes for Taken King controversy, CE items to be sold separate
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20 buck for some emotes, I'm passing. Redbull to play half the new missions, yep I'm passing. 40 bucks for some over priced dlc, yes I'm passing.
Good to see gamers tired of this shit. I love playing destiny, put probably 10 hours a week into the game since Alpha. But I'm done. It's been fun.
Good to see gamers tired of this shit. I love playing destiny, put probably 10 hours a week into the game since Alpha. But I'm done. It's been fun.
It's about how far a publisher is willing to go knowing they've got digital crack on their hands and how much the addicts are willing to take.
How is TTK that cheap on Xbone?
You're using loyalty rewards somewhere?
Its £40 as far as I can tell.
And the emote and class armour thing will definitely be £20 too.
Lalalandia
Member
<Nods> it's a real shame too HoW shows actual promise but yeah I'm out unless the pricing gets revised. I don't feel like paying for Destiny + DLC to get 1 x Destiny worth of game is good value. For me this DLC needs to make up for the fact that the base game was so damn thin that it took 9 months for it to be a complete product.
Frankly if you have Destiny + DLC already there should be a significant discount for TTK to apologise for the terrible item crafting systems that have required overhauling in every damn expansion. Too many of the things I'be liked in these DLCs have been glorified patches.
GlamFM
Banned
We should wait to find out more about the next DLC before calling it "overpriced" IMO.
Miggytronz
Member
Is the steelcase for TTK Collectors the same as the steelcase from the Ghost Edition?
Think most people can agree 20$ (1 third the cost of a full game) for some emotes, and items is insane. Should be like 9$. I also think stand alone the dlc should be $25 imo. That's fair.
Again it sucks cause I really like getting on every Tuesday and playing with 2 of my friends. But I can't stand and support this shit. Soon every company will be following their example.
Lalalandia
Member
What have Bungie done to merit such trust?
Didn't we try that already?
GlamFM
Banned
toastyToast
Member
If you look at it as a value proposition compared to the full priced boxed game I think it's possible to conclude its overpriced already. We already know it won't have 2/3rds the amount of content as the main game, that might be enough for some people.
Lalalandia
Member
They made the Alpha in 2014, release was only a few weeks agoThey made Destiny, my GOTY 2014.
It's a really, really pathetic response to just ignore the UK currency issue and the Red Bull stuff in this response. Insulting to customers.
I mean, the emote stuff is just hilariously out of touch, but there you go. It's less actively insulting than just ignoring the inconvenient questions as part of your supposed "apology" though. Bungie's PR is terrible.
I mean, the emote stuff is just hilariously out of touch, but there you go. It's less actively insulting than just ignoring the inconvenient questions as part of your supposed "apology" though. Bungie's PR is terrible.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They made the Alpha in 2014, release was only a few weeks ago
The release (vision) will be this September.
Fair enough, but considering the past, the value hasn't been there imo. I'd expect this dlc to take longer then 2 hours to run through (campaign) . Last 2 dlcs were fairly short outside of the replayable parts.
I'm just saying at 9$ I may bite, a buck a piece is about where I draw the line for something cosmetic in game.
They made Destiny, my GOTY 2014.
Oh come on...
I get it, I like Destiny too, but they hardly have the best track record with dlc.
And even if they're improving that we still have $40=£40, the RB promo, and $20 for the digital items which will probably cost UK players £20.
At this point I think it's actually sensible to be wary of this game.
I would tell you that real men deletes characters first, but don't do that.
GlamFM
Banned
I said that before, but I find it very difficult to measure "value" in general and especially with Destiny.
I played hundreds of hours, played with and got to know so many GAFfers, had and still have so much fun with my friends - this is where the value is for me.
I also find that the GIANT PvP portion of Destiny often gets completely ignored when people start evaluating what is in Destiny.
GlamFM
Banned
badum tss
Man I agree. I've played more destiny in the past year then aanything. I really do enjoy playing it. So yes if I look at value as the total time played, sure I got 90$ out of it. But that said I feel to justify me spending another 60$ it has to come with atleast half of the content I already have.
Lalalandia
Member
You know I actually agree with this the question for me is whether they were planned as DLC or moved to DLC to get the content starved thing we paid for last year out the door. HoW Destiny seems like a full games worth of content at this point but before now not so much.
Planned. It's an MMO style game. You always plan content after you launch it, MMO style games never ship what's on the disc and go "well, we're done".
Also, FYI Bungie has always made the world spaces before the mission designers come through and populate it with the actual enemy encounter stuff. They did every Halo game this way. So if a particular spot in Destiny went unused in the vanilla game world, it was because the mission designers just didn't find an use for it yet. They cut an entire level from the end of Halo 2 because they had completely modeled it and textured it and rigged it up, but ran out of time to actually place all the encounters.
In Destiny, there was no use in deleting spaces that hadn't been used yet. So they just stay there. House of Wolves didn't even use the Terminus geometry that people glitched into in Vanilla. It's all new up there.
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In ONI, Bungie also took this method of building super-literal by hiring an actual architect to design the buildings you play through before implementing the actual gameplay for Konoko.
I like that Bungie is giving the option to players to upgrade to the CE for special items at a fair cost.
Why are you guys complaining about this?
From my experience, it was a good thing to have this option.
I couldn't get the FF14 CE in time, and was going to be a mount-less scrub, but SE gave me an option to pay 29.99 to upgrade, and it was worth it to have the same mount that everyone was riding on.
I was a special snow flake just like all the people with CE, I felt comfortable knowing that I was part of the CE elites.
Bungie is doing the same thing here, and giving standard players the ability to feel special by obtaining these rare items.
Why are you guys complaining about this?
From my experience, it was a good thing to have this option.
I couldn't get the FF14 CE in time, and was going to be a mount-less scrub, but SE gave me an option to pay 29.99 to upgrade, and it was worth it to have the same mount that everyone was riding on.
I was a special snow flake just like all the people with CE, I felt comfortable knowing that I was part of the CE elites.
Bungie is doing the same thing here, and giving standard players the ability to feel special by obtaining these rare items.
Haha
At a fair cost!? This cosmetic stuff should be $5 max.
The cosmetic stuff should be whatever the Destiny players are willing to pay for them.
I like that they're offering a solution to the initial problem here but I do agree that asking $20 for that stuff makes it ridiculously obvious what Activision thinks of the Destiny community.
As someone who dropped Destiny after a week, anyone who is happy paying $20 for this is freaking insane.
Ah yeah?
You won't have access to it, and you will never do unless you pay for it.
The valuation of being special is an added cost.
Fair game to me, and there is no point in devaluing the CE package since the other fans are willing to pay good money to be special and unique in the game.
They can't cater to everyone, but at least Bungie is trying by giving standard players this option to be like the CE buyers.
Standard buyers should be glad that Bungie is giving them a second chance to obtain these rare items.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Wow. That was a great apology. Thanks bungie!
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What you get out of it is irrelevant. Some people can spend hours playing in a sanbox, others get bored after the first castle. You'll get these kinds of defenses for almost any game ever made "I've had XXX hours so that's value for me".
Compare the actual content, not how often /you/ replayed that content. Compare the practises: how the company handles themselves with PR, how they learn from their mistakes. It's an overall picture. If it were just about low content and value then maybe you'd be right, but there is more going on here.
For every step forward Bungie make with the quality of their game content, they take another back with a shitty promo or yet another way to mistreat the players who have supported them since launch.
Players like you.
You shouldn't be so ready to say "it's ok because I got hundreds of hours". That doesn't excuse shit practise.
blazeuk
Member
This is the most frustrating thing for me, it's £10/$15 cheaper for me to just go and buy the digital collector's edition from the US store which contains everything vs buying just the expansion and CE items separately on the UK store for the physical copy I already own.
Exact same situation here (played for a week, stopped) and exactly the same stance on that price. People who buy this don't deserve any better
Breakfast at Noon
Member
I don't understand, Your talking foreign.
They have people hooked to the steady drip of loot.
People aren't thinking rationally. The powers that be understand this. It's pure exploitation at this point.
GeNoMe
Member
Same situation for me as well Glad I got out when I did, this is just down right robbery.
Forensic Scene
Member
Wolves Evolve
Member
We're not that far gone. We're... CLOSE to Stockholm.
It damn is.
I'm not paying for and playing a game just because the company making it has "good" PR practices, or whether or not they partner up with a sponsor for a marketing operation.
I'm paying for and playing a game because of the game, and if I have fun on it I don't see why I shouldn't go on paying for it and playing it, whether you like it or not.
They don't "mistreat" anyone, and they don't owe me anything.
We will get some "VIP rewards" for having been there during season 1, and I'm happy about it.
Some people can buy a few vanity items on top of that, and I probably won't because I find them overpriced. I won't, however, shame them for doing so, or try to act like they are destroying the beautiful and pure "gaming world" in their act. Because they aren't.
Luke Smith fucked up in that interview, and he apologized for it, like every grown up person should do when doing a mistake. Because we all do at one point or another.
Having principles is nice and all, but having too much of it can be a bigger problem than having none.
Bungie is offering a game and some additional content for a price. Everyone has the right to buy it or not, depending on if they think the value is right or not. Everyone has the right to debate on whether or not the value is right. Shaming people because they have a different opinions than yours is where I draw the line, though.
PrioritySe7en
Banned
I deleted Destiny after House of Wolves. They're not getting any more money from me anyway. Nothing that I've paid in regards to Destiny for has felt remotely worth the asking price.
KillerSloth
Banned
So a few emotes, shaders is the same price as their last 2 expansions lol.