WarlockTheWise
Member
i5 2500k, 12GB ram, GTX 680 2GB. 1920x1200
40-60fps on max without gameworks.
I haven't seen it drop below 35 at any point.
40-60fps on max without gameworks.
I haven't seen it drop below 35 at any point.
Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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Irobot82
Member
3570k @ 4.4Ghz
8GB DDR3 1600
256GB Samsung 830 SSD
Saphire Dual-X 7950 @ 1100/1350
Playing at 1080p
Not sure if anyone else discovered this, but I think I found the cause of the diminished bokeh depth of field effect on PC when compared to the PS4 version: broken built-in AA.
I did a couple screenshot comparisons, and it looks like the PC version's built-in AA solution isn't working as intended, which severely lowers light output and fine detail on any and all of the game's lights sources.
Screenshot comparison here to show the diminished light output/detail (some far off light sources are entirely obscured by the AA):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132512
And another to show how the diminished light sources affect the bokeh depth of field:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132513
Last comparison to show the diminished detail with in-game AA enabled (note the sign directly ahead of the Batmobile) VS SweetFX SMAA:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132515
Obviously, for whatever reason, they had a difficult time porting over the post-process AA. For those still playing, and have in-game AA on, I'd definitely recommend disabling in-game AA and injecting SMAA until they fix this.
I did a couple screenshot comparisons, and it looks like the PC version's built-in AA solution isn't working as intended, which severely lowers light output and fine detail on any and all of the game's lights sources.
Screenshot comparison here to show the diminished light output/detail (some far off light sources are entirely obscured by the AA):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132512
And another to show how the diminished light sources affect the bokeh depth of field:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132513
Last comparison to show the diminished detail with in-game AA enabled (note the sign directly ahead of the Batmobile) VS SweetFX SMAA:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132515
Obviously, for whatever reason, they had a difficult time porting over the post-process AA. For those still playing, and have in-game AA on, I'd definitely recommend disabling in-game AA and injecting SMAA until they fix this.
Mathiassen
Member
ahh cmon
That first comparison showed why our rain seemed lighter than the PS4 version...
ss_lemonade
Member
I wonder how long it takes, people might even have time to complete it while it's processed.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Hmm, I tried the game a bit today and I turnt off the AA, felt the game looks better but not very sure why as I spent just like minutes with the game. Nice catch.
Thanks! I'll give it a try, though I'm probably going to wait for them to fix it before I sink any serious time into this game.
8GB ram, GTX670 2GB - Game is about PS4 levels of playable. Still get very quick hitches here and there (talking half a second stops every few minutes or when loading in a new area first time).
Even the Batmobile is fine in the same way.
*shrugs
There is a shadow completely missing in the third picture on the first screenshot wtf. Look at the building on the right.
There's a helicopter with a searchlight passing over on that checkpoint save every time I loaded it up to do a comparison.
The lack of a shadow in the one screen was probably caused by the slight helicopter position difference.
Nice find jorimt. Along with the missing AO it goes some way towards explaining why the environment seemed so oddly muted. I just tried it out for myself and the picture is notably more vibrant without the in-game AA.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132524
Look at the city lights in the background, too. The AA just erases so much detail.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132524
Look at the city lights in the background, too. The AA just erases so much detail.
Dictator93
Member
Just in case anyone is curious, the reflection shadows are also broken at certain angles for the batmobile:
Please take note of batman's reflection shadow... and the fact that the car's reflection shadow disappears.
Please take note of batman's reflection shadow... and the fact that the car's reflection shadow disappears.
What an absolute shitshow.
shiftplusone
Member
i'm at 16GB RAM and with a 980ti and if I framecap to 30 I'm "fine". no freezing or locks or anything so I can add my anecdotal evidence that with those variables I am having a better time than others
On foot it's ok with GSYNC, but the Batmobil-part is still nearly unplayable for me because the framedrops are really big and it feels extremely off. Even with GSYNC I will wait for a performance patch (i7 3770k, GTX780)
eot
Banned
So, 3.5GB or more?
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Bought it on pc yesterday, unplayable. 17 bucks lost
Bought it today on ps4. Performance much better but I think the game looks better with gameworks
Atleast I can play it now
Bought it today on ps4. Performance much better but I think the game looks better with gameworks
Atleast I can play it now
Dunno what is with this game.
I decided to uncap my FPS again just because even with 30 FPS some of the texture pop in was annoying, and now....uncapped FPS doesn't seem to stop my texture pop in anymore. Before it would take forever or never pop. Now it's acting the same as 30 FPS cap.
Feel like every day I'm rolling the dice and getting an arbitrarily new port.
I decided to uncap my FPS again just because even with 30 FPS some of the texture pop in was annoying, and now....uncapped FPS doesn't seem to stop my texture pop in anymore. Before it would take forever or never pop. Now it's acting the same as 30 FPS cap.
Feel like every day I'm rolling the dice and getting an arbitrarily new port.
JRW
Member
If I stick with the 30fps cap then stuttering is very minimal with all gameworks options disabled, everything else on high.
i7 920 @ 3.2ghz / GTX 670 FTW 2GB / 12GB DDR3 / Win 7
paperspace
Member
Do you lack brain cells?
Yes, you're probably right in thinking that more than one factor accounts for the difference between the bokeh on PC and PS4.
I did capture a screen from that same shot just now, and comparing it to the original DF PC image with my own (in-game AA off) definitely seems to restore much of the missing effect:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132525
However, when comparing my shot to the original DF PS4 image, the light output on the PC version (even with in-game AA off) seems to still be lacking:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132528
It's possible that whatever controls the extra rain cascades missing on the PC version, also affects the light output somehow. That, or there is more likely yet another discrepancy in the PC version when compared to the PS4 version.
I did notice an interesting line concerning a lightmap texture in the PCSystemSettings.ini, which reads as follows:
However, I have no idea if it has to do with any of the current issues.
Good point. Perhaps we should help them compile a list of bugs/omissions they should work on? I'm not confident they'll manage to uncover everything that is wrong with the PC port by themselves.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Because I really want to play the game?
Joe had the same reaction i had except i for it in a promo deal.
Salty, but i made it "work" in the end after reinstall's and crash fest.
PC Bruteforce Master Race
It's your money, you can do with it whatever you want. However, I don't agree that the proper reaction to WB making you lose $17 is to go ahead and buy a (potentially) more expensive version of the game that made you lose $17 in the first place.
But, hey. It's your money, you can do with it whatever you want.
paperspace
Member
Obviously not. I mean, you've been to this thread since release; you knew the game was broken and bought it anyway. And then you buy another version when you ... confirmed it was broken?
It's laughable, but you're free do to as you please!
Lovely Salsa
Banned
I bought the game yesterday after I read a review that my card should get average 45 fps on max settings without gameworks.
It was BS.
It was BS.
All your ram is belong to us
BlackNinja
Banned
Not with a Titan X. I'm capping to 30fps but I'm also running 4k and I'm not getting a lot of stuttering. I'll try playing more tonight and see how if I can break it.
some good news at last.
BlackNinja
Banned
Nvidia also getting involved...
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-helping-fix-batman-arkham-knights-pc-proble/1100-6428437/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-helping-fix-batman-arkham-knights-pc-proble/1100-6428437/
AndyMoogle
Member
Good. Hopefully we'll see a major patch within a month. It's definitely not going to happen in days like some people seem to expect. They aren't going to put it up for sale again without at least a decent patch with some serious testing.
Good. I have faith they'll at least get it performing well.
I /hope/ we'll see improvements to the graphical options in game, and that they add the missing effects. I especially would like to turn off motion blur and CA.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
How is this good news, it's totally unacceptable in this day and age. Tweets like this make me angry. How did they pass this port off?
that goes without saying, seemingly they are working on it internally, so good new...
"Top. Men."
Rocksteady was never to blame (most likely) but this is nice to see. They should have been the ones to port it in the first place. Its their code, their creation. Outsourcing isn't always the wisest move.
Refunded.
I look forward to Rocksteady and others delivering a good port, and I will purchase.
As a software engineer by profession I see too much "derp, salaries outsourcing is so much cheaper, save money = good" but complete lack of analysis on experience, daily schedule for collaboration, retention/relevant experience for the product, global IT infrastructure to deliver without hand wavy references to the cloud, etc.
I look forward to Rocksteady and others delivering a good port, and I will purchase.
As a software engineer by profession I see too much "derp, salaries outsourcing is so much cheaper, save money = good" but complete lack of analysis on experience, daily schedule for collaboration, retention/relevant experience for the product, global IT infrastructure to deliver without hand wavy references to the cloud, etc.
I mean, I don't know anything about software engineering specifically with regards to video game development, but porting a game built on DirectX on shared x86 and GPU infrastructure doesn't seem that difficult. I would imagine setting up the porting process for the final build wouldn't take much considering they had PC builds last year....most of the effort is going to be testing and distribution.
It's good news because they seem to be taking it very seriously.
We have no idea what happened, but if they fix it swiftly and well it is definitely good news.
Nvidia is sending their engineers there too, so now we have RockSteady, Nvidia engineers aside from the original IG engineers. What next? WB sending their WB Montreal team? Call Monolith for additional engineers? This is looking like a nuclear reactor meltdown with every hand on deck to fix it, yeesh.
GavinUK86
Member
Never a wise move. Anyone remember Deus Ex Human Revolutions boss fights?
Seriously, this should turn into the single greatest PC port EVER considering all the people working on it now. I still have my doubts though.