lol why, is it so hard to upload a video? I mean it's 2025...
AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Includes PSSR, Removes 30fps cap in hideout
- Thread starter Topher
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saintjules
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Hey look someone who knows how to press a button on the controller with a function not behind a paywall! He/she must also have an upload speed that is not shit.
The game looks even better now (watched on a 4K TV with capable 2025 internet).
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
thatJohann
Member
It's cool that it looks nicer with PSSR, but I still can't get into this game, it's one of the most boring games I've played on PS5.
emmm . Maybe you mean in regards to IQ?? PS5 base (also more XSX) quality mode (also in balanced mode) improved in many aspects to PRO performance mode (resolution, LOD, vegetation, geometry, hair physics...). It wasn't just IQ cuerstion.
In the UBi notes, there is no mention of improved asstets and graphical detail in PRO performance mode. Nor if it active physical hair that were also disabled. Have those things improved? From your captures I deduce that not or not much.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Perhaps. Game seems crisper on my TV than I remember the first time playing it. I'll go back to the hideout tonight and see how it looks. That's where I was taking screenshots the first time highlighting the difference between it and PC.
Triggered much, you? Then why upload shitty pictures here like a hobo..."hey here's a picture I took with my flip phone" lolYou had to wait....what....10 minutes?
I'm just replying to your inane posts. Why do you care so much? Mind your own damn business.Perhaps you should reflect on your own contribution to this thread. So far, it looks like this....
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
What's with all these kids/Reddit trash here lately?
Performance mode with PSSR it is clear that it should look sharper or better IQ vs TAAU performance mode (which also started from an even sligth lower average resolution than in the same mode on base consoles). But it seems that it has not changed or improved in other aspects, definitely not on activating hair physicals watching the video uploaded before.
Definitely it is a patch that deserves an analysis. It's interesting even beyond PSSR, for example the framerate issue in Hideout is almost more interesting.
That's the limit your upload speed allows I guess, 1080p pics and 240p gifs. Great that we're all having fun here.
Topher
Identifies as young
Yeah, haven't had time to look at it much. Just took those screenshots at lunch while I ate a sandwich. I know I should have quit my job to accommodate some new guy who cries a lot, but oh well.
I noticed the toggle for PSSR. I wonder if it reverts back to TAA if that is off. Did they say?
I don't get the frame rate issue in the hideout. On PC, there is no change at all in performance. It is bizarre.
Your posts seem to indicate high megabitching bandwidth. Very impressive.
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usamarslan
Neo Member
PSSR appears to remove the sharpen effect but blurs the foliage in the wind, dissapointed with its image quality. Balanced mode feels smoother than before, but feels lower resolution. I will continue to play in Quality mode with no PSSR.
This is Quality mode PSSR vs No-PSSR in stationary position, only wind moves the foliage.
This is Quality vs Balanced in PSSR and No-PSSR in motion.
This is Quality mode PSSR vs No-PSSR in stationary position, only wind moves the foliage.
This is Quality vs Balanced in PSSR and No-PSSR in motion.
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j0hnnix
Member
PSSR looks softer or am I at the point i need new glasses. lol
Topher
Identifies as young
Yes, but different modes. TAA quality on PC vs PSSR performance. I was going for what they would look like at similar frame rates.
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j0hnnix
Member
ah, makes sense, ill cancel my appointment now.
saintjules
Member
Some people aren't sure if it was sarcasm without the /s. They could be laughing with you and not at you
nowhat
Member
It goes like...What's with all these kids/Reddit trash here lately?
- a bunch of noobs/alts get accounts, are welcomed (or ridiculed) in a congratulatory thread
- said noobs/alts post a bunch of stupid shit, for a while there's a disturbance in the force
- a wave of the ol' banhammer
- then after a while, return to step 1
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
For the first image, what's the internal resolution for the PC image. It's much higher than PS5, no? Performance mode is around 1000-1080p, so I assume they simply added PSSR on top to upscale to 4K. That's the equivalent of 4K DLSS P.
Also, doesn't PC have higher textures and AF? I don't think those differences can be attributed to PSSR.
Edit: Is this maxed out PC 4K DLSS Q on a 5090 vs PS5 Pro performance?
Doh, was looking at Topher's images.
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Topher
Identifies as young
usamarslan
Neo Member
This is purely on PS5 Pro, comparing PSSR on vs off in different graphics modes.
QPSSR=Quality&PSSR
QTAAU=Quality&PSSR Off
BSSR=Balanced&PSSR
..etc
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
But the first image says PC - TAA Quality vs PS5 Pro - PSSR Performance.
Edit: Quoted the wrong poster lol.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
What settings on PC and what set up? Is this your 9070 XT? Frame gen or no frame gen? The difference is enormous there.
Performance Mode seems to have lower quality textures, no? This doesn't seem to be just PSSR. The RTGI is also very different or is it just a TOD thing? Pro Performance has that blueish tint typical of raster lighting, but I know it has RTGI. Sure, the quality is higher on PC, but something is going on with the tone on the Pro. Looks like there's a blue filter.
Killer8
Member
Looks way better. A little softer but less disocclusion artifacts.
And it's good this is an option. A lot of updates have unintended effects and end up looking worse. There needs to always be a way of reverting to the old look.
GHG
Gold Member
Shhh, at least wait until the account suicide thread so that we can get a new song for the Neogaf musical.
viveks86
Member
In motion, distant objects are resolved way better with PSSR, and nearby details are softer, but nicer (for me). And in both stationary and motion, nearby objects are way oversharpened with TAAU. In quality mode, I think this seems a matter of preference. In balanced mode, it's not even a contest. If none of the other PSSR pitfalls, like flickering shadows are in this game, this is actually a solid upgrade, especially in balanced mode. Are you able to do the same shots in performance mode?
Dalbajobas
Member
Why are people using Imgsli?
Am I missing something or you can't zoom in to 1:1 pixel, making it entirely pointless. It's either downsampled from 4k making it look much better than it actually does or way "overzoomed" beyond 1:1.
I guess one way would be to cut 1/4th of 4K image and upload to that comparison site.
Am I missing something or you can't zoom in to 1:1 pixel, making it entirely pointless. It's either downsampled from 4k making it look much better than it actually does or way "overzoomed" beyond 1:1.
I guess one way would be to cut 1/4th of 4K image and upload to that comparison site.
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saintjules
Member
Lol, that's true that the hideout 30fps cap removal is only for performance mode?
Well, if PSSR makes it look better then that's fine. Been playing balanced up until now.
Well, if PSSR makes it look better then that's fine. Been playing balanced up until now.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
TAAU is much cheaper than PSSR which is just as expensive as DLSS and FSR if not a bit more.
The performance mode was already dropping to 1080p/1008p with TAAU, its no surprise that with PSSR its slightly softer due to internal resolution being lower.
That said, the difference in motion in stark. PSSR finally doing what its supposed to in comparison to FSR, TSR and TAAU.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Topher
Identifies as young
9070 XT, 4k, TAA Quality. I believe frame gen is off there, but I'll need to make sure when I get home.
Could be you are right about the textures, but I don't know. I just assumed it was resolution. The lighting does seem different but same TOD. It is the same exact game save between PS and PC via Ubisoft at the exact same spot in the game. The PC version has a more natural look to it to me, but yeah....I can see the blue you are talking about.
Gaiff
yes, AMD FSR frame gen is on for me
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Dalbajobas
Member
All right that Imgsli website works fine when you click fullscreen in chrome, but doesn't go fully fullscreen in firefox. Pretty awesome now.
Don't mind my dummy previous post
Don't mind my dummy previous post
Topher
Identifies as young
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol imagine showing off the PSSR upgrade in a scene literally covered by fog.
Some of these youtubers man.
PaintTinJr
Gold Member
PSSR is just ~1ms - I did a write up from the Pro seminar with the maths proof and meant to make a thread - it is nowhere close to the latency of DLSS to scale to 4K - which is the main reason for FG and MFG on Nvidia cards.